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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Raila's Eventful Homecoming Bash: What Would He Have Done Different?

By Kumekucha Correspondent

Although I admire Prime Minister Raila Odinga for the selfless role he played in widening the democratic space in Kenya, championing the cause of the voiceless and the statesmanship he showed when President Kibaki stole an election victory from him, his just-concluded homecoming party in Kisumu failed to address pertinent issues that directly affect his own people.

Judging by the furious reactions that greet any comments perceived by his fanatical supporters to be negative, I’m aware that what I’ll say here will not be sweet music to them. But that is democracy. As much as Raila’s supporters are entitled to their own views, they should in the same breadth respect alternative views – whether they agree with them or not.

Raila’s home-coming party was of major significant. He was the second person after Mzee Jomo Kenyatta to occupy the post of PM. Raila is a man who has selflessly fought for democracy for the Kenya people. He has been detained for a total of eight years by retired President Moi. Raila has spent more years of his political career in the Opposition than in the Government. And he won the hearts of many Kenyans and the international community when President Kibaki shamelessly stole the presidency from him in the last December 27 General Election and he humbled himself to the lesser post of PM for the sake of the Kenyan people and the nation.

The new PM deserved the home-coming bash. However, Raila home-coming parties on Saturday and Sunday largely dwelt on raw politics and self-glorification. Matters that directly affect millions of lives in the Luo Nyanza - development and economy, education, the shameful poverty, the untapped fishing industry that is Lake Victoria’s goldmine for Luos, the need to tone down high-voltage politics by the residents of Nyanza and go back to their farms and businesses to uplift their living standards, etc etc – took a back seat. The home-coming parties were turned into a hero-worshipping affair and Raila loved it.

Being a PM with executive powers and with the majority MPs in Parliament, Raila wasted a good opportunity over the weekend for he failed to explain to his people how they will benefit from the Coalition Government he laboured so hard to put in place. Had I been in Raila’s position, I would have seized the occasion to tell my people my vision for uplifting the economy of Nyanza and the pathetic living standards in the region.

Kenyans watched Raila on TV being at pains to explain to his supporters which of his MPs got which ministry portfolio. That’s fine. But he should have gone ahead and explained what benefits his people were going to reap by having the region represented in key decisions of the coalition government.

Had I been Raila, I would have told the huge crowd that turned up to fete him that I would convene a meeting of political leaders, professionals and top brains from the region to come up with a blue-print of turning around the economy of the region for the benefit of the common man. Raila must realise that his supporters can’t feed on raw politics from January to December year in year out.

It’s a known fact that Nyanza region – especially Luo Nyanza – lags behind in development despite producing some of Kenya top brains. The region has been neglected by successive post-independence governments and this has been linked to the abrasive kind of politics played by leaders from the region.

I liked Raila’s plea to his supporters to change their long-held mentality of being in the Opposition and know that they were now firmly in the Government. Since Kenya attained independence in 1964, Luo Nyanza has been the bedrock of Kenya’s Opposition and this has impacted negatively in the economic development of the region.

Together with Thika, Luo Nyanza has the highest rate of HIV/AIDs infections in the country. Apart from individual performances by students, Luo Nyanza scores poorly in overall performance in national examinations. After Kenya attained independence, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta’s rallying call to his own Kikuyu community was that they should go back to their farms. He also spoke about hard work every time he took the podium to address his people. Luo Nyanza needs water supply, good infrastructure, industries etc.

Instead of sitting down and mourning about neglect, leaders of this region should sit down and chart the way forward for their community. This should have been the focus of Raila’s key note address to his people.

How will the Luo community or other communities benefit from their MP flying the flag? It’s time it dawned on Kenyans who abandon their daily chores at the expense of politics that the real beneficiary of ministerial and public service appointments are the individuals and their immediate family, and sometimes a few of friends and sycophants.

The thousands who turned up at the home-coming parties should reflect on what they personally achieved after braving the scotching sun to give Raila a hero’s welcome, crown him a Luo elder and listen to empty political speeches. Next time an MP or a Cabinet Minister or the PM holds such a bash, the people who will attend should tell the politician that: “we are happy you have realised your political dreams, but now tell us how we, as your loyal supporters, are going to benefit from the job we fought so hard for you to get.”

The benefits of the public offices held by the MPs should trickle down to the common man just in the same way the MPs keeps demands that the benefits realised by the Government trickled down to the common man. It’s not a question of MPs bursting their bellies with food while the people who fought for them to get the plum jobs die of shameful poverty.

Unless Raila dwells less on being glorified like a semi-god and focuses more on real issues that affect his subjects in Luo Nyanza and the rest of Kenya, he’ll realise when its too late that he is on a self-destruction path.

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48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Chris your Raila bashing is now too much and what exactly-is your agenda chris?? I would really like to know???but i will remind you that you can bash him and luo's all you want it won't wash!!

chris said...

Anon @ 7:27 Tafadhali tuliza boli

Nobody is bashing your beloved Raila. We are simply analyzing politics in Kenya. Our readers expect us to do that without fear or favor even those who lined up and voted for Raila in the just concluded elections.

I also voted Raila and I have no regrets about it. But give us a break will you, we are here to see politics from a neutral point of view. That is democracy and we must get to that place where we can listen to alternate views.

Is it this blog that jeered the Prime Minister In Kisumu last weekend? My dear friend we only report the truth and analyze things as they are. Iwe mbaya hao mzuri

-Kumekucha-

Anonymous said...

HEY CHRIS!
I READ YOUR POST AND I DISAGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS ON WHAT RAILA SHOULD HAVE DONE OR SAID TO HIS PEOPLE!! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT NOW YOU HAVE BECOME A SEASONED POLITICIAN AND YOU CAN SEE BEYOND RAILA??

REMEMBER IT IS KIBAKI WHO HAS MADE SURE THAT THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER PARTS OF KENYA EXCEPT CENTRAL PROVINCE! LOOK AT THE SUGAR FACTORY THAT NOW WE HEAR IT WAS SOME KIKUYU MIDDLEMEN THAT WERE TRYING TO SELL IT OFF CHEAP?? WHAT ARE THIS PEOPLE DOING IN NYANZA TRYING TO DESTROY THE ECONOMY OF THE AREA?? IT IS ABSURD THAT YOU CAN EVEN DISCUSS HOW PATHETIC THE NYANZA ECONOMY IS BAD WHEN WE ALL KNOW WHO HAS HAD A HAND IN MAKING SURE THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT THERE!! IN 2004 KIBAKI GAVE ALL THE CENTRAL COFFEE FARMERS MONEY TO HELP THEM BOOST THEIR COFFEE AND MY QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T HE GIVE THE SUGARCANE FARMERS THE SAME??

DON'T WRITE GABBAGE HERE CHRIS WITHOUT DOING PROPER HOMEWORK!! GO CHECK HOW MUCH KIbaki government assisted fsrmers in central (3.4 billion shillings) just for central province farmers between 2002-2007 and nil for other regions!! what does that say to you for your glutting out loud here!does that mean central province are better farmers than others or that they got fully fledge free money to assist them??

on aids forget luoland and thika- have you been to nyeri hospital?? or other smaller clinics in central?? who was told not to report on aids in central?? how many reports are there on youth and aids in central province but are not allowed to be posted in public?? last year i saw such a report and i was actually very shocked and let me correct you it is not only Thika- kiambu!!Banana!! maragwa- Ruiru, nyeri, towns were in the report and believe me the level of HIV had grown from 15% to 65% HIV posit individuals between 2001-2006 this is when the report was made and this was not published I wonder why!! what i know the kibaki government made sure that the HIV treatment packages were stocked all over in most of the hospitals and clinics in central

but they had a problem- most young people in central province refuse to admit or go for treatment because of family shying away from them or embarrassing their families the report quoted and hence delay in treatment or getting treatment when it is too late!!and this is not serving the purpose of prevention of passing the virus to others!!
central province can hide their HIV REPORTS FROM THE REST OF KENYA AND KEEP ON SINGING NYANZA NYANZA BUT COME CENSUS YOU WILL SEE THE HEAD COUNT WAY DOWN!! THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING RIGHT??

SO BWANA CHRIS NOTHING SAID NOTHING GAINED- IT JUST SHOWS YOUR SHALLOWNESS AND TRYING TO DISTORT FACTS AND PRESENT YOUR VIEWS WITHOUT DOING PROPER HOMEWORK ON YOUR POST HERE!!
i BELIEVE RAILA DID A GOOD JOB TALKING TO NYANZA PEOPLE!!

AND WHAT EXACTLY HAS KIBAKI TOLD HIS OTHAYA CONSTITUENCY?? CAN YOU POST IT HERE?? I DOUBT!!
central can hide

Anonymous said...

Chris
thanks for your reply- yes other readers expect you to e fair on your posting too?? check your posts 4 posts follow up on Raila?? does Kibaki exist?? and should we not hear what he is doing for kenya other than trying to fund raise when the IDP'S are screaming for the money the donors already contributed for their plight?? where is it??

what has kibaki told his othaya constichecy ?? to accept working with other tribes??
have kikuyu's agreed to work with other tribes yet?? reading from central bloggers here i sincerely doubt.
someone mentioned equity bank in nyanza province?? why didn't you mention that positive aspect of Raila encouraging his people to take loans from a KIKUYU ran bank??
isn't Raila showing kenyans to work together irrigardless of tribes for a bank like equity to be in nyanza?? do you really sincerly think that their no LUO private sectors who can set up banking or loan facilities for Luo land?? think again.

Bwana Chris what i'm saying too you is you are backhandedly bashing Raila and let's not pretended otherwise!!

I think your bloggers would also like to read on people like Uhuru vs mungiki Martha karua and the no immunity for other tribes but the mungiki can get immunity and money to do business!!no mungiki's in jail in Thika!!!Nyeri!!! Muranga!! Kiambu!! even though they shut sown this towns for days - send warning fliers out and demanded 10,000 shillings for anyone that opened their shops- there were murderers committed e.t.c but guess what none in jail for post elections disturbances!! so why the selective justice from Martha Karua??

tell you what Martha better enjoy that office to the fullest now! the way i hear she will never see that position again in her lift time and trust me once out of office she will have a case to answer!!

why haven't you posted here on the church leaders?? asking for the release of Njenga?? and why?? on top of that they want the mungiki gang to be given money by the government to run busineses? is that for real?? this same church leaders who took sides during the elections?? are they also connected to the mungiki's(it would not surprise me) watching the tape i notices all this church leaders presenting the mungiki case were from central province !! and i could go on and on!!
being a respectful blog means reporting issues fairly!! not bashing one side!!

Anonymous said...

We have heard you loud and clear, Chris just tell me how do you talk to people about the benefits of being in the govt, if the people dont appreciate the govt in the first place?

Chris did you take time, to know what it is that Raila told the luo delegates at Tom Mboya Hall? I bet not.
Was it not Raila who was telling his people to take loans and improve their lives, or why was this equity thing in the other post for?
Did you take time to read today's standard? I bet not but i guess coz Phil was there he will give you an update.
I am a Raila fanatic and with no apologies to anyone but i am not a luo. You see you can take a cow to the river and you will not force it to take water....TRUE. You see my parents took me to the best schools that money could buy but from that i had to seek for ways to improve my own life...They did all that they could and to that i am grateful.

I dont mean to be rude...But it is just simple we have councillors and MPs i believe it is their work to do that.....mobilize resources mpaka huko mashinani.

If Raila decided to do that to the luo today will you not be the same people bashing him tomorrow of tribalism. I wish you would have gotten someone to translate to you all that Raila said in luo then just maybe you can change the tone of your post!!!!

I disagree with RAO in many instances and i always voice it....Na hapa sitoki unless he washes his hands off mungiki...He has no business talking to them at all, And also the business of following Kibs up and down as if he is his armour bearer, kila mtu afanye kazi yake, the other instance was the safcom IPO...So i guess give him time let us see then judge him...Kwa hayo machache ningeomba nikome hapo

Ivy

Anonymous said...

By the way just a thought if RAO had just done what you have said, would you not have written a post of RAO thinking that he is luo's PM. He was in my hometown Funyula, and i didn't hear him mention AIDs yet it has also fagiad people there, i din't hear abt fish, yet they have SIO port right there, he know he has given Otuoma work to do so he knows Otuoma will do that and that is what the 12 ministers who accompanied him to Nyanza and western said check standard today. The level of poverty is high inspite of us having a Vice president so i dont think you are expecting him to do some magic!!!!Adios

Ivy

Phil said...

Chris,

Is this what your guy "on the ground" decided to file with you?

I asked you elsewhere on this blog; Do you APPRECIATE that Nyanza has been marginalized for almost four decades despite being a leading contributor of tax (far much ahead of some areas I know), and that the reaction of these people is quite understadable?

Secondly Chris, did your correspondent inform you that Raila met 20 grassroot representatives and received memorandum from ALL the constituencies of Nyanza, including Kisii, Suba and Gucha? I did not know you guys could imagine that Raila would analyze all these memos within an hour and offer solutions immediately. There are over 30 constituencies in Nyanza alone and they all have unique problems. You'd be surprised Chris but problems facing Nyando are not the same as those facing North Mugirango! The PM met these delegations at the Tom Mboya Labour college and was infact late to the rally at Moi Stadium because of these meetings. He will analyse the memos and see how they can be integrated into the provincial development plan which has only existed on paper for nearly 50 years!

Your correspondent should also have informed you that Raila met women groups, elders and religious leaders from far and wide, some from as far away as pokot and turkana - so I beg to differ Chris. The PM is not a PM for LUOS only, but a national figure responsible to the needs of all Kenyans. And BTW, how come you have not mentioned about the fish factory that Raila spoke about and the emphasis he put on fishermen on the need to harness MBUTA SKIN to manufacture leather goods - samples of which were shown at both rallies? Or perhaps you would prefer these lakeside people remained ignorant and poor peasants forever?

When you talk of jeering Chris and reporting the truth, why dont you or your correspondent also report and publish what Raila had asked before he was 'jeered' - and were they jeering at his words or to him as a person? Wasnt he the one who knowingly prompted this so called jeering - so as to send a message to those leader who want to use Raila as political umbrella for touring a hostile countryside?

Did they cheer anything else that he said afterwards? Lets not select what to print/publish. Lets give the whole story. At least Raila had the courtesy to ask, unlike some leaders who are known to insult the very people they seek votes from.

You mention something of significance in your post Chris. That Raila was detained for a total of 8 years without trial. Can you pause just for a minute and reflect on what this means? How many of us would even be alive today still fighting for political freedom and economic emancipation for all people after such horrendous experiences?

In conclusion, I want to inform you that the weekend functions were THANKSGIVING ceremonies touching on both culture and religion, as opposed to homecoming parties as you want to call them. An all important visit to the mausoleum of the late Jaramogi Odinga Oginga was included in the itinerary. I will give you an example that will show, unlike you and your ilk, ODM honours its leaders and supporters.

Wanyiri Kihoro, himself a former detainee, was once married to a beautiful woman and civil society activitist. She was in an aircraft accident heading to a NARC homecoming party. She was in a coma for many years and had to be transferred to Kenyatta national Hospital when bills at Nairobi Hospital became to heavy for Wanyiri. I did not for once see the NARC summit chairperson visit the lady in hospital or even the funeral after she succumbed. Is this how you want us to treat our heroes/heroines?

I am making these comments as a person who attended the functions in person.

Daniel Waweru said...

Together with Thika, Luo Nyanza has the highest rate of HIV/AIDs infections in the country.

Roughly speaking, Luo Nyanza consists of the following eight districts: Bondo, Homa Bay, Kisumu, Migori, Nyando, Rachuonyo, Siaya and Suba. The mean HIV prevalence for those 8 districts is 11.4%. Thika district has a prevalence rate of 3.7%; lower than every single district in Luo Nyanza (as defined above). Luo Nyanza has easily the highest prevalence rate of any comparable region (Nairobi has 10%), while NEP and RVP have the two lowest rates.

(Figures are from Appendix II of the National Aids Council's HIV Prevalence Report of 2006)

Daniel Waweru said...

Chris,

While we're at it, you say that:

being a leading contributor of tax (far much ahead of some areas I know)

have you got any serious evidence for this claim?

Anonymous said...

anon8:29 AM

Thanks Phil
I couldn't have put it any better- and you touched a rough spot on how Kihoro and his wife's treatment until she died!! she should not have been placed in Kenyatta hospital!! U was very furious with Kibaki government until now and that is why i did not vote for PNU yes I'm from central!!
when you damp someone who fought and worked hard for your party!! and let them die in an miserable environment and ignore the family then you are worth shiate to me!!

do you remember when Wamalwa died his wife got top treatment because the ford party fought hard for that respect?? for his family?? what is with central province?? onces people are not useful to them they damp them like dogs!! look at the mungiki ?? the church leaders are saying that is exactly what kibaki(PNU & Cronies) did used them for the elections and their dirty criminals deals and now look at what they are doing to them?? executing them?? shouldn't this same leaders be answerable to using gangs to commit crimes??
I ask Martha Karua again?? why the selective justice?? the church leaders from central have the proof if she needs it to prosecute or was she involved with this mungiki's too??? sources on ground say she was in the thick of it all right after she appeared on BBC claiming ethnic cleansing she Martha Karua chaired one meeting with the Mungiki gang members- so who is going to prosecute Martha Karua?

do not get me wrong- being from central there those of us who strongly believe Kibaki and his cronies like Martha Karua, Uhuru and the likes are passing to us a dark grim future for central with all odds against us!! who the hell will listen to a kikuyu when this same people have shown their hate for other tribes openly hence set the pace for other people from central to follow?? when one reads the news and reports you find that during December -February they were feeding central province with lies and now some of us realize that it was all about staying in power at all costs!! disregarding what was to happen in the future which to me is very sad and unacceptable! we all have families and we all want a better future for them in kenya- where everyone can relate and live in harmony!! they have made that impossible with their arrogance and unfeeling attitudes and lack of respect for other tribes- how on earth did central choose such leaders?? does it mean we do not have better leaders to present our new generations who have been brought up totally different from this old guards?? central must think again and change the way we represent our views through the changing times and people who understand the new generation and the new Kenya!! 2012 must be the turning point in central province and the old guards like karua and i guess Uhuru just because his father was the first president of kenya should not be given a free Ticket to parliament if he can't serve the purpose!! I would look seriously at his mungiki connections before casting that important vote!!

Anonymous said...

Ivy, the esteemed lady from Funyula, relax on RAO talking to Mungiki. You fight your enemies from within and not from without. There is information to be got, and the only way you can get that "info" is by conversing. You are a smart lady as I take from your posts that seem rational, question to you, why do you think that they are busy killing the top mungiki brass? Is it that they know too much, at the risk of sounding cliche, the old adage, "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru
can you go to the ministry of health and get that report on the HIV on central province?? ask your kikuyu friends to release it!!! the fact is I know it is there- I 'm one of the people who worked on it and by the way I'm a meru!! so do not give me bull-shit on here!!
Central has a very high rate of HIV - we did reports on all districts and traveled to most of the hospitals and rural clinics e.t.c!!
finished the report in 2006 and was denied to be published by the high authorities.
Waweru the problems are for central to handle- hiding it will not wash!! the youth in central are refusing treatment or exposing that they have HIV until it is too late to do anything- the reasons give were - families were very hash to and most times chased them out of home!! embarrasing the family was another issue and fear of being an outcast- yes this is what we were told on grand by the people infected!!
now if you look at someone of the reports that were even published for Thika and other towns guess what they say?? suicide?? OR TB !!(A JOKE)and they removed the words HIV!!in some of the reports - now i ask you Waweru?? how long will central hide that their youth are dying like flies?? of AIDS??

Anonymous said...

Sasa jamaa wa RAO wanamenyana wao kwa wao in this blog. Am enjoying their rant.

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru, did you even live in Kenya? Or how long have you lived there from your postulation. You well know how the system works, in terms of supressing information and skewing it in terms of advantage whether political, social or economic based on who is in power. I know you of all people do not believe what you just posted.

Anonymous said...

What about me Chris, I voted for PNU and I am not a Kikuyu.
And here is a double-whammy for you, come 2012, I am voting for Stephen Kalonzo Musyoka for prezzie. I know I am not particularly very popular in this blog, but I don’t shy away when it comes to controversy. Between me and you, why do you seem to have a personal vendetta against our VP? I mean for real, what did he do to you?

As for Nyanza, I do not have a problem with Dhluo people; I love ‘em just as I love Kyuks. Infact I have a very good friend of mine here in Nairobi, a very affluent bloke from Siaya, he always drive the latest and wears Prada but what he told me once, left me stunned. He confided with me that since he left Nyanza some 15 years ago he has never been back, for one simple reason someone might bewitch him. The point I am trying to make here is; much of Nyanza underdeveloped, misfortunes and predicaments are derived from traditional beliefs and customs. HIV/Aids can be half in Nyanza if wife inheritance custom is dropped outright. Also a recent scientific study showed ‘cut’ men have lower risk of contracting HIV. I think it’s a pain worth taking!

Kwale

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:17, there is no one ranting...you got it all wrong unlike PNU bloggers all the ODMers have their facts on the fingertips....Na si kelele tu..Enyewe usiku mwema

Anon 9:06 not yet convinced let mungiki talk to their patron Uhuru Kenyatta.

Daniel waweru, KRA has the facts...go to archives or better still google it will save you alot of time. It was thei in the papers and that is why it was ODM campaign platform...How can Nyanza and Coast contribute more and they get less?

Abt the AIDS thing even if you argue until Yesu arudi, if Nyanza is number is it only luos who stay in Nyanza, i am a samia which is in Nyanza so? and i know aids fagiad wasamia...AIDS is a kenyan problem...So leta ingine and it is true go MOH reports. What is the obsession with AIDS anyway? Adios usiku mwema bila nightmares and by chance you have any just know that somehow the blanket is or was stolen

Ivy

Anonymous said...

Wazi Chris. It's a waste of time and chumes for tinga to head all the way to dala just to be sang praises for.
He's no longer a novice politician, his brand is already famous so why should he seek reconfirmation?
This is probably his best chance for him to influence govt policy and chapaa towards nyanza.
kamash

Anonymous said...

Kwale get a life....FActs or fifth ammendment

Phil said...

@ Waweru, check this post I did sometime last year.

http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-kenya-needs-devolution-badly.html

KRA Tax collection 2004-5
Central Province Sh. 1.8 billion,
Nyanza Sh. 6.9 billion,
Western Sh. 5.5 billion,
Rift Valley Sh. 5.56 billion,
North Eastern Sh. 43 million,
Coast Sh. 2.7 billion and
Eastern Sh. 920 million

The rest was from Nairobi province.

Go to government printer and grab a copy of printed expenditures. You can pick any year. You will be shocked, dear Kenyan.

2008/09 Budget is up next month - I am urging you to take a keen interest if you care for this country and not just one particular region. Mwananchi are free to send suggestions to treasury and I have sent mine. You send yours. You can bet by last dollar, we all know whose prosal Kimunya will choose. Right?
See what I mean?

Anonymous said...

Kamash on a point of order how do you influence govt policy and chapaa to a people who do not appreciate the govt.

It is not govt money, it is their money.....Just when will you people get it? You see we are advocating for equitable distribution resources for everyone not just the people of nyanza whatever a luo gets i want the same to a samia, yes a samia like me, an ogiek. Luos do not need favors they need their rights not handouts.

Ivy

Phil said...

Sorry here's the link

Why Kenya Needs Devolution So Badly

Whatever happened to Vikii?

kalamari said...

Chris, your correspondent needs to understand politics. Raila's duty at those rallies was not to focus on the development agenda per se. It was to appease and calm the masses with rhetoric populist speech. That is the first step of any development agenda. You have to calm people down before you tell them what you will do for them. You do realize that the police and the Ugandan military had a death-fest in Kisumu; right?

In an attempt to hit two birds with one stone, Raila hosted several marathon meeting with Nyanza leaders from all sectors. It is best to hold such development meeting in sober closed door venues as opposed to fanatic crowds. Since there's no evidence that a lot of beer and nyama choma was being eaten at this Nyanza leadership development meetings, it is not far fetched to presume that the agenda was development, development, development.

In addition, Raila is not PM for Luos. The reason he's talking to Mungiki is to extend his national outlook. It's just politics. Discussing a term paper on only Nyanza development at a rally is not great political calculation. Unlike Kibaki who can only visit Muthaiga, Raila must go to great lengths not to be perceived as favoring one region only.

As for the jeering, well, it was really only in response to the mention of Kibaki, PNU and coalition. Now Raila of course knew that the mention of Kibaki's name would bring chaos…why do you think he did it? If not to display Kibaki's unpopularity on national TV. It's like espousing the greatness of Ruto in the middle of Muranga town. Again, it's just politics. I have told you before that Kibaki will be booed while Raila is cheered. In Kibaki's absence, how else can you make sure his name goes deeper into infamy?

I love this game.

Anonymous said...

Chris,
I'm also Chris. Phil's response is weighty and loaded with facts. Seriously, you made a big point when you said RAO could have used the opportunity to hammer home to Luo Nyanza more of development ideas to reduce runaway poverty levels. It beats me to see how people fail to reason with their heads and instead allow empty fanatism to drive them even on empty bellies.

Kenyatta's slogan such as "Uhuru Na Kazi" seemed to have sunk more to the people of Central province than those from other provinces. Our leaders need to preach similar slogan and go further by provided the necessary support to encourage individual and communal development. As pointed out by other readers in this forum, RAO did this but could have done even better during the homecoming festivities.

My optimism is that RAO is smart enough to achieve ODM's goal of equitable distribution of resources across the country. The trickle-down effect will go along way in reducing poverty.

We must not waste any more time in empty politics and celebrations until we reach Canaan.

Chris, keep up the good work balancing firmness with fairness. Truth must be told even when it hurts most. Adem.

Anonymous said...

Kwale, why are you not gone yet? You are boring us! Seriously.

Phil, continue defending RAO no matter what, some of us are tired.

kalamari said...

Daniel Waweru, please do not toast champagne on the high prevalence of HIV in Nyanza. We all know that HIV is many times over not a killer of the immoral.

That said, it is true that many are dying in Luo Nyanza. A massive awareness operation the size of the Marshall plan may not be a bad idea. Russia Hospital is no longer synonymous with socialism. Folks, we need to sober up and address this issue.

Anonymous said...

NOW WATCH THIS AND LEARN THE TRUTH ON LAND UNFAIR DISTRIBUTION DURING KENYATTA ERA!!!

AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO AND IDP SAYS HE WAS GIVEN HIS LAND BY KENYATTA IN THE RIFT VALLEY AFTER INDEPENDENCE FOR FREE???
MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN IT BE FREE?? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ORIGINAL OWNERS OF THE LAND BEFORE THE WHITE SETTLERS TOOK OVER AND SEND THEM AWAY OF FORCED THEM TO WORK ON THE SAME LAND??

THE LAND ISSUES MUST BE ADDRESSED WHAT KENYATTA DID WAS WRONG AND LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED?? AND KIBAKI CONTINUED WITH THE TREND!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oayvqM1jAfs

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:04am, What "Uhuru na Kazi", the plundering of public wealth? The marginalization of certain regions? Blind nepotism and corruption? Is that the "kazi" you are talking about? So please interpret to us when Kibaki said "kazi iendelee" and when Jaramogi stated, "Not yet Uhuru". Spare us those half truths and innuendos, such as Kyuks saying that they are the only hard working people in Kenya. What amazes me though, is that they have had two presidents, if we go by the law of averages, they are not doing as well as they make it to seem.

M-Fedha said...

Chris this is what u say in the SECOND PARAGRAPH, and I quote

"Raila’s home-coming party was of major significant. He was the second person after Mzee Jomo Kenyatta to occupy the post of PM. Raila is a man who has SELFISHLY fought for democracy for the Kenya people..."

Is it a mere Freudian slip or an indication of finally seeing the light? that Raila fought for democratic space SELFISHLY!!!

Anonymous said...

ANON10:04 AM
CHRIS I'm glad i posted Kenyatta's greed and taking over rift valley land from the rightful owners and distributing it to his tribesmen and if by his thieving of land means to you UHURU NA KAZI then you are the one dreaming and blinded by this kenyatta guy who is the cause of what is happening in kenya today!!resentment from the communities he stole from! RIFT VALLEY!COAST PROVINCE!! CENTRAL(since he had to pack off his own tribesmen to Rift valley and coast)
so I ask again why do kikuyu's worship a president like Kenyatta whose legacy leaves little to be desired!! Dedan Kimathi was the hero!! and J.M kariuki not Kenyatta!!

if you missed it here it is again!!
listen very carefully what the IDP aqt the end says how he got his land!!!!shame!! not his fault though!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oayvqM1jAfs

Anonymous said...

Chris you have touched on raw nerves. By unmasking Raila, you have unknowing touched on the Luo community.

The people of the lake will not accept to be weaned off the milk of opposition politics overnight because they are used to blaming others for their misfortunes. Simply put, they are not ready for introspection. Raila has started albeit reluctantly to educate them by telling them to abandon their unending negative attitude towards govt. But again, who taught them those attitudes? Wasn't it Raila and his father?

I agree with you Chris that Raila should have done more. But that advice he gave them about getting loans from Equity for starting business and not to marry second wives was quite a good piece. He needs to do that more often and on more topics including the old business of inheriting of widows.

But you can count on Raila NOT to do more of advising on hard work na kurudi mashambani. He is more of a showman and he loves a good show especially when put on by his lakeside people. Although they called it a THANKSGIVING party it was really a HOMECOMING party which ended up being turned into a SECOND COMING of Junior Jesus Raila. With all thses parties and year-round politics one wonders when these brothers and sisters get time to advance their individual lives.

Raila needs to do more and tell these people the bitter truth. He can go to the National Archives and listen to the early speeches of Kenyatta to Kikuyus. At the time, Kikuyus wanted free stuff because they had beaten the mzungu but they would be dismayed time and again when Kenyatta would beseech them to go back to the land and till. Over and over he would repeat, "Hakuna cha mbule, maana ilikwisha." When they would booe him he would tell them to stop "kunugunika" and go dig harder and find their gifts in the soil where he hard buried them, but he wasn't going to tell them which part of shamba they would find them. Soon the Kikuyus were tired of kunugunika and went to dig their shambas and to open little kiosks. That is what is leadership.

Raila has shown that he is a great political compaigner, now he should focus those talents to economic and development campaigns for a change, at least, for the lakeside people. Incessant politics, blaming others or hanging on to nebulous claims of "historical injustices" will never provide food or educate a child, instead, it only detains without trial these peoples' economic creativity. If Raila finds, like his father, that it is too much to lead on this economic recovery mission he should step aside together with his hangers-on and allow the people to break free from the chains of his politics and showmanship.

Kimi Raikkonen said...

Why is Raila telling Luos to build a fish factory to harvest fish from the lake? There are no commercial fish quantities you will get from Lake Victoria if you fish from Kenya unless you go and fish in Tanzania.
The way to go is contract farmers to farm Tilapia which they can process from self owned cooperative processing plants for direct export. This means that even if you own only 1 acre you can have two 10 x 20 ponds where you can harvest at least 100kgs of Tilapia per month for 11 months of the year. 100kgs @ 7us/kg will fetch 700us$/month(40000/=). This is not small money especially for a peasant. He can also earn more from the export of dried Tilapia leather, and even more from crushed bones after filleting to make fertiliser.
The rest is total crap by ignorant twits and boorish loudmouths, some of them on this blog. Also, there isn't enough mbuta to make leather. What a laugh! I am a Kikuyu in the seafood export business and i know what i am talking about.

Anonymous said...

anon 10:57 AM

LET AS LOOK AT KIBAKI'S CRIMINAL RECORDS PREVIOUS THROUGH THE YEARS UP TO DATE!!


Upon Kenyatta’s death in 1978, a new partnership of President and Vice President and Minister for Home Affairs, was born. Enter the Moi- Kibaki conspiracy.



The duo pursued another vicious police-driven phase of detentions, repression and political assassinations that culminated in authoritarian and tyrannical single-party rule of Kenya.

This time, Kibaki was in-charge of the police including Kanyotu’s intelligence gathering team. When Oginga Odinga and George Anyona sought to register a socialist opposition party in 1982, Moi struck back by making the country a de jure one party state through a motion pushed in parliament by Mwai Kibaki.



It was under the watch of Mwai Kibaki at Home Affairs & Internal Security that the police began the worst forms of civilian harassment of government critics. University student and faculty staff were arbitrarily arrested, tortured, detained without trial, and even jailed under flimsy and outrageous charges. Politicians like Raila Odinga and Koigi Wamwere were not spared from the spree of detentions without trial. Many critics fled the country.

In 1986 alone, on Moi’s orders executed by none other than Kibaki, 100 people were arrested and detained for alleged links to Mwakenya, the movement started by some Kenyans in Diaspora who had fled Moi's oppression.

During the Moi-Kibaki conspiracy, several prominent Kenyans were allegedly assassinated including former Gem MP Ongili Owiti.



The late Dr. Robert Ouko - Kibaki later reneged on an earlier pledge to unearth his assassination

Ouko had discovered the fact that out of the Molasses project contract's total payment, a whooping 50% (multi billion shilling) was actually earmarked as kick back to Moi and Biwott. It was his raising of this matter on a 1990 trip to Washington DC that triggered the plot to end his life. Ouko was promptly assassinated by the President-Internal Security conspiracy.



2002 elections paved way for another new conspiracy between President and Minister of Internal Security. This time, President Kibaki and Christopher Murungaru assumed new roles over the police and state machinery.

Not hindered by Kibaki’s campaign pledge to respect human rights, another wave of police brutality, civilian murders by police and political assassinations arrived.

Police clobbered civilian demonstrators senseless, shot and killed defenseless demonstrators including fleeing children who were shot in the back. This also became the era of revival of the assassination industry. Allegedly, the conspiracy oversaw the execution of the murder of a prominent expert on political devolution, the late Dr. Chrispin Mbai. Police cover-up of the assassination was so shoddy that a local newspaper was able to trail the hired assassin in Tanzania.


The sweaty Murungaru, banned from stepping British & American soil was also rejected at the last polls.

Murungaru crushed any attempts to unearth Mbai's assassination, even rewinding Kenya's political clock and reviving the detention without trial era. He promptly ordered the detention of three leading Standard journalists investigating the Mbai murder.

The top two conspirators, Kibaki-Murungaru, made history again when they were caught with their hands in Kenya's coffers, in record setting Shs 200 billion Anglo-Leasing security procurement scandals.

Murungaru has never fully escaped from this scandal, legally speaking. The scandal eventually ended Murungaru's political career and blacklisted him from many Western capitals. Hopefully some day, ex-presidents may also have to answer and account for their actions while in office, as is happening in other more progressive third world countries.

After the November 2005 referendum, a new Internal Security Minister, John Michuki assumed watch over the police force. Never has anyone misused Kenya’s police to orchestrate dirty deals the way Michuki did.

On human rights violations, the Kibaki-Michuki duo proved to be the most lethal combination ever, which brought civilian suffering and bloodshed in extraordinary terms.



John Michuki

This became the era of shoot-to-kill orders by police. The police indeed shot and killed hundreds, if not thousands of innocent civilians. This was also the era when notorious international drug criminals known as the Artur brothers became Assistant Commissioners of Kenya police, - with badges, state protection, state unmarked vehicles, arms and ammunition to boot.


The Artur brothers - it is reported allegedly that Margaryan may be slated to become Kibaki's son in law via the president's daughter Winnie.

They executed illegal state sponsored commando operations (state terrorism) that resulted in horror and vandalism of a local newspaper and broadcasting station’s premises.

The Kibaki-Michuki conspiracy also gave birth to the recent state-orchestrated rigging of the 2007 presidential elections using the Administration Police (AP), who were publicly exposed in local newspaper photos and reports.


Night-time tranportation of cash-stashed Administration Police into election centers prior to election date was clearly documented with compelling evidence of pre-arranged rigging.

This is also the conspiracy that gave birth to the comprehensively reported post-election violence, which had the police playing a central role - of killing hundreds of innocent civilians, some captured in video camera. This duo of Kibaki-Michuki entered history as Kenya’s most blood-thirsty watchers and “mis-users” of police. Fresh orders for police paraphenalia and regalia had to be sought from China to replace stocks rapidly used to spill civilian blood

The latest Kibaki-Saitoti conspiracy has not hesitated to show their determination to maximize their hold on authority over police. They have purportedly rolled out plans to impose a police-state status in rural Rift Valley, where they intend to dramatically increase police presence. This could be a direct hint at forced resettlement of IDPs using police, with little attention being paid to underlying land disputes of historic nature.


The march into yet another dreaded conspiracy. What would it's outcome be? Who could be next? Is William Ruto safe?

This is also the new conspiracy that has mid-wifed renewed ethnicization of the police force.

Under the duo's watch, recent police recruitment and transfers have dramatically taken a tribal inclination, with focus being ethnicity. Majority of new recruits seem to possess politically correct ethnicities, according to publicly available reports in the media. Public complaints have also arisen about ethnically motivated transfers of police officers to regional postings.

These are the fruits of the deadly conspiracies between the President and the Minister in charge of the police, which apparently become worse if the two are ethnically related.

Since indications are rife that the yet to be constituted post-Accord grand coalition cabinet might end up having Saitoti retained as Minister for Internal Security, a report on his role in any police violations of human rights including any murders and assassinations started rolling out.MP Were and Mark Too of ODM!!This conspiracy must be tamed before more innocent blood is shed

Look at Police orders give by this same Kibaki" shoot too kill!!
KISUMU, WESTERN, RIFT VALLEY ESPECIALLY MT. ELGON MURDER AND TORTURE EVERY SINGLE DAY!! THIS ANIMAL CALLED KIBAKI MUST BE STOP!! OR ELSE!!!

Anonymous said...

ANON11:19 AM

THEN YOU MUST BE A VERY FOOLISH KIKUYU EXPORTER WHO DOES NOT HAVE FACTS ABOUT THE LAKE VICTORIA BEFORE SPEWING FILTH HERE- IT REALLY SHOW'S HOW YOU THINK OTHER TRIBES DO NOT NOW HOW TO DO BUSINESS - GUESS WHAT WE AIN'T THIEVES AND THUGS AND I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY KIBAKI HANDED TO YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS 2002-2007 HE HANDED OUT PLENTY(SO FAR KIKUYU'S ARE JUST LAZY BUMS WE GET FREE THINGS WITHOUT ANY SWEAT!!

I'M ONE OF THE INTENDED INVESTORS- FROM DIASPORA WHO KNOWS WHAT IS ON GROUND AND HOW THE LOCALS CAN GAIN FROM SUCH A FACTORY !! AND BY THE WAY WHERE EXACTLY DO YOU GET YOUR FISH FROM IN OTHAYA??? OR DO YOU MEAN GETHERI AND PEAS EXPORT!!

Daniel Waweru said...

Anonymous 9.07,

Obviously, the bare claim that you carried out research for a report is no evidence whatever. Could you give us any further information? Timing, location, organisation, funding and methodology of the research perhaps?

All the independent research I've seen, e.g. here and here, here and the Kenya Health and Demographic Survey; all of which were either done by non-Kenyan researchers, or jointly with Kenyan and non-Kenyan researchers, demonstrate that Nyanza has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS prevalence. If you have a result that overturns what has come to be the conventional wisdom, it would obviously be of very great importance.You ought to give some serious detail.

Ivy,

In re your 9.32 am, I'd suggest that you look at the Kenya Demographic and Health Survey (Chapter 13, page 223) which breaks out the AIDS prevalence numbers by ethnicity. Just in case you think this one is biased, the organisations involved were: the Central Bureau of Statistics, Ministry of Health, Kenya Medical Research Institute, National Council for Population and Development, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Nairobi, Kenya and ORC Macro, Calverton, Maryland, USA.

Chris,

I've had a look at your link, and it appears to be a copy of Barrack Muluka's infamous Standard article, since the figures you give are exactly the same as his, down to omitting Nairobi. Simply quoting Muluka, especially when he doesn't bother to provide any evidence for his assertions cannot be construed as providing evidence.

According to the figures you provide, the total revenue collection for FY 2004/5 would be about KES 23B. However, KRA collected KES 274B in FY 2004/5. (See speech by Michael Waweru).

On to your water figures. You have given precisely zero evidence for them. The Central Bank's Physical Infrastructure Report has nothing resembling the figures you quote. In any case, water development money is usually handed out to districts or to the regional water boards, rather than constituencies: Garissa, for example, got KES 800M from the Arab Development Bank in 2005, and Wajir got KES 1.9B via the normal budgetary provisions for water projects in the same year; the Goverment also guaranteed a KES 5B loan from the African development bank to the Lake Basin Development Authority for irrigation schemes in South Nyanza.

In short, the numbers you provided appear to have no basis in reality, and, in fact, they clash with the best evidence.

Anonymous said...

This I must ask; How is Kalonzo going to deal with the prevalence of sodomy in prisons?

Kimi Raikkonen said...

Anon @ 11.31am, you are one truly ignorant fool. Ati you are diaspora, so what? You are in diaspora doing what? washing dishes or shining shoes? Washing cars and streets? If you removed your pathetic tribalist blinkers and passionate hate for a second, you would know that what i am saying is correct and is helpful.
I will tell you again, you ass, there isn't enough fish in Lake Victoria. If there is, can you tell me how many fish processing factories there are in Nyanza right now, from Homa bay to Kisumu and Busia, compared to Mwanza alone in TZ or even Entebbe in Uganda? Why have Dominion group decided to invest in Tilapia fish farming instead of harvesting from the lake, after all they have the financial resources to start even twenty factories?
Grow up fool, and emancipate yourself from the suffocating bitterness against Kikuyus. It wont help you one bit except make you grow old and withered before your time. Don't waste your young life on useless hothead passion, nobody is impressed.
Oh, and i get my fish from the sea, the indian ocean.

Anonymous said...

ANON12:18 PM

Kimi Raikkonen

first get it right:) I'm not a kikuyu so there is no chance of me washing dishes and polishing shoes here abroad!!or anywhere in the world!!I have too much of super brains that god gave me without stealing them:)
second i do work for a corporation which has lots of investments in other parts of Africa and are doing very well!! kenya was on the map but due to corruption of kibaki government and looking at them giving countries like china our free mineral concessions!! oil blocks and free land to build cement factories in Athi River - I found Kibaki the thickest president ever to be in office-did he look around him on how other African countries were building their economies by making sure they posted tenders for all of their natural resources??and have control over them??

example:
Tunis
Uganda
Togo
Guinea Conakry
Zambia
Congo
Angola(go learn by goggling all this countries)

yes all th above countries are doing very well our company has oil blocks and mineral concessions in all this countries- you see having brains rather than having the habit of stealing does wonders.

As for investing in Nyanza why not and again i repeat go do your home work even yala River busia has fish- and by the way if you go to the fish market side in the city market all the vendor's will tell you kikuyu's have become their biggest customers on fish- but it is a pity that someone like you so uneducated exporting migi's from limuru and kiambu has no interests of knowing what other parts of kenya produce or have in the way of natural resources:)
I'm sure you are ready to shout on top of Mt. Kenya that north eastern has no mineral but lazy nomads you run camels!! yet your greedy kikuyu's have already been there grabbing minerals concession(the locals will get them back i hear)

Luo land and other parts of kenya are going to boom in a big way!whether you like it or not!! those days of Kenyatta theft!! add Kibaki are gone and you can add his partner in crime moi!!
we as Kenyans are going to develop Kenya not the nonsense we see being done free handouts to thick kikuyu's whose main training is theft -pole sana!

by the way Michuki was given his position for a reason! to hide all the deals on Minerals that kibaki and his cronies signed:)in 2005-2007
(but you see they can't hide !not possible!! all companies that sign oil and mineral contracts that are public traded on stock exchange have to post that information on their site:) so you see we can find out everything!

and why do you think Mt. Elgon is very important to kibaki and his cronies??

well Museveni let them in a little secret??
see Museveni is already mining plenty of Minerals on his Uganda side of Mt. Elgon but the kenya side there has been only artisanal miners(local small time)- ands surprise surprise there are plenty of all different high quality minerals in Mt. Elgon!
so what does kibaki do yes make sure he gets Michuki make sure that soon will be government land!

I hope the members of parliament in that region are awake to this facts
the documentation of the minerals is with many of the international NGO's on grand in KENYA!!!

YOU SEE ! YOUR BEING STUPID HELPS BECAUSE WE COMING FROM BEHIND - "UNDERDOGS AS YOU CALL US NON -KIKUYU'S- LAZY!! YOU SHOUT!! APES ! I SEE THAT QUITE OFTEN ON OTHER BLOGS!!' we will show you what it Takes to run a country!! by using our brains not stealing like the central province fools- while in turn destroying our country!!

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru, I'm not trying to poach you from Kenya Entrepreneur but it seems you can add a breath of fresh air here at Kumekucha as a regular contributor. Knowing too well that Kumekucha is by far and wide the number one Kenyan blog, your views will receive maximum exposure as main posts rather than comments. Just send Chris an email. This will greatly improve the political balance per regular contributors. Going by your habit of including references after every sentence, I'm sure you have the time to write a couple of articles a week. Please join us. As you can tell, previous PNU apologists like Derek, PKW and Vikii have absconded their responsibilities here.

WELCOME

-Regular Reader-

Anonymous said...

ANON1:26 PM

YOU ARE A JOKER:) AND WHAT REFERENCES I PRAY DOES WAWERU POST HERE? WHICH GIVES FACTS OR SPELLS TRUTH???

OR ARE YOU CONFUSING WAWERU WITH IVY'S POSTS??

Anonymous said...

Some of the nit-wits on this blog just amaze me. First and foremost, how many Jangs to do you see walking around with six lower teeth pulled out? Those traditions and cultures have for the most part become a relic of bygone times. One of which is the wife inheritance. Not to say that it does not exist, but it is not as prevalent as in the past. This has been attributed to Christian values, rural-urban migration and advances in socio-economic and education levels, this practice is almost a thing of the past. Except in the deep bundus, and which tribe would say that they have totally become devoid of what we "deemed" as primitive aspects of our cultures and traditions. So for you Jang bashers, who have nothing better to do than look at other peoples cultures and espouse theirs as being morally superior, MEZA WEMBE. On another note, this nonane attitude that I read mostly from Kyuks who boast of owning businesses A to Z, any community that would have been given the same advantage and head start as Kenyatta gave would have made strides to the same or even greater magnitude. Even the playing field and then come shout from the top of the mountain which ethnicity is the most hard working and you will be shocked. I have never seen a people that love short cuts to success more than our brethren from the slopes, and I say that beccause I lived in Boston in the middle of Kyuk country and it amazes me the "get rich quick schemes that were being concorted." There are certain practices in the Kyuk community that I will not dare mention (read-incest) that are prevalent and a known fact, but they are always the first ones to cast aspersions and point fingers due to a lack of self introspection into their practices and cultures.

Anonymous said...

Kimi who cares where you get your fish from, it could be from the stream, lake, "basin", whatever. Yours are the rants of a mad man. Your blind loyalty to tribe has taken away any feasibility of sound intellectual discourse on a sane level.

Anonymous said...

Chris
There you go again picking on luos , if it wasnt for us bado mungekuwa one party state mkifinywa kweli kweli , now on a serious not is it only luos who are poor? , is raila the PM for kenya or nyanza? .Poverty is a problem all over the the world so i wonder why you want to zoom on nyanza only and yes Raila adressed the issue of poverty by encouraging his people to take microfinace loans to start small businesses(not for dowry or second wives) , you have always advocated this in your blog if iam not wrong , Raila also proposed the opening of an ice plant which smart thinking busines folk will research and consider investing in.Also remember being a PM by itself does not bring development it takes cordinating all the ministries and other arms of govt to achieve this.Raila's philosophy has always been equitable distribution of resources and services and yes that includes nyanza not nyanza only.On education did he not precide over prize giving for the outstanding performers in KCSE/PE? , remember he is human and can only do so much.But i think you posted this just to stir up debate which is your work , so on that part i will grudingly say you did a good job.

Mwarang'ethe said...

It was Nyerere who observed that there are two kinds of poverty. The first kind of poverty is lack of material things. The second type of poverty is lack of ideas. He added that lack of ideas is the worst poverty.

Those who understand sociology of medicine are aware, and they tell us that, when AIDS first came in 1980's, we were told is a disease for gays. Then, we were told it is for prostitutes.

It was because of this categorisation of AIDS that the world is paying a heavy price today. In any case, any Kenyan who visited a dispensary in 1980's can remember a poster that said, "HELP CRUSH AIDS." That was another mistake, and we are paying the price now. Instead of crushing it, it is crushing it.

Flowing from the above, given what we are reading on this blog about AIDS in Nyanza,Thika etc, it seems to us that we (including our governmental agencies) have not learnt from the first mistakes that have helped to spread this disease to millions around the world.

Mwarang'ethe said...

As concerns RO, we are of the opinion that his duty is to help free the creative talents of Kenyans. He has stood up on many occassions to protect the right of Kenyans to think and speak freely.

That being said, if he can lead Kenya to a new constitutional dispensation, he would have done his part. Thereafter, it will be up to Kenyans, whether Luos, Kikuyus or others to take advantage of the new constitional dispensation to build a better Kenya.

That being said, we do not hold the opinion that it is his business to tell Luos do that or this. To argue otherwise, it would seem to us is a sign of ignorance on the role of an MP.

Anonymous said...

mwarangetehe
who is we??

Anonymous said...

mwarangetehe
who is we??

Taabu said...

@ David Waweru

Please take a break fro your JUVENILE ACADMIC POSTERING. Serial reference adds no value to your post except they only succed in bloating your ego as knowledgeable. Ifyou have encountered reference for the first time please try your luck by submitting a paper to a referred journal instead insulting a blog. Your is akin to INTELLECTUAL AUTO EROTISM. Indulge if you must but you are impressing no one.

Anonymous said...

Would like ot comment on Waweru's AIDS references.

DW provides several references on the AIDS pandemic and i think this is a good thing to do since i totally agree with mwarangethe that any process that raises awareness can only be beneficial. Ignorance allowed the pandemic to afflict and wipe out many.

Unfortunately Waweru presents this information as a slur (intentional or not) and hence the unfortunate venom, denials and counter insults.

If you however look closely at that data, you realise it covers a period 1995 - 2001) when AIDS peaked in Kenya as people grappled the dilemma of cultural practices (that regarded sex matters as taboo and not openly talked about in public) vs pragmatism to educate communities and especially the youth and other vulnerable groups on the dangers of engaging in unsafe practice. This is 2008 and virtually almost all communities are more informed and prevalence has declined. Many recent reports attest to this such as this, and if you care to look fro more reports, you will confirm that to be true

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79802.php

but the AIDS fight is far from over so all kenyans must strive to do all they can to overcome not just the AIDS scourge but other diseases that can be managed simply by observing simply hygiene.

The beauty of it is that Kenyans are educated and learn to face challenges, overcome and move on. The biggest obstacle(s) is still our deeply rooted ethnic prejudices and fanatical fundamentalism followed by near donkey like obstinacy to defend obvious wrongs not because we support the wrong but that we hate even more, the other tribe exposing the wrong.

Just plain RIDICULOUS

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