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Wednesday, January 16, 2008

PNU Not Interested in Justice or Peace

After rebuffing the mediation mission of OAU Chairman and Ghanaian President, John Kufuor, the so called PNU government now seem hell bent on ensuring that the efforts of his nominated peace-broker Koffi Annan does not see the light of day.

Yesterday as the thriller was going on in parliament, breaking news flashed on TV screens to announce that Koffi Annan has postponed his trip to Kenya after "suffering a serious bout of flu." Other rumours contend that Mr. Annan fainted as he was boarding an aircraft to bring him to Kenya at Kotoka International Airport in Accra and had to be rushed to hospital. None of these two incidents have been reported in mainstream Ghanaian press or elsewhere.

Surprisingly, nothing has been said of the status of his two other eminent persons, Mrs. Graca Machel-Mandela and former Tanzanian President Benjamin Mkapa who were to accompany Annan to the mediation talks.

Mr Annan's sudden illness came only a day after John Michuki, while handing over the internal security docket to incoming minister George Saitoti, arrogantly questioned Annan's visit to Kenya terming it unnecessary.

Ever since Mr. Kivuiti tragically plunged this country into unprecedented chaos by declaring Kibaki president and later adding fuel by confessing that he, as ECK Chairman, did not know who won the presidency, it has become clear that the PNU government is not keen on mediation or negotiations with ODM and it does not value the lives of Kenyan citizens. While everyone else is concerned about violence, needless deaths and flawed elections, PNU seem to be saying - everything is alright. What nonsense I say!

It is also clearly emerging that the PNU is deluding itself that it is a democratically government that is fully in charge of the country and that the ODM should be the official opposition party. The PNU government largely undermined the Kufuor mission from the outset, with prematurely appointed government ministers repeatedly saying no mediation was needed since there was no problem in the country. All the while - live media broadcasting is "banned" and political rallies "outlawed" - Kenyans are not only needlessly dying. Kenyans are undergoing untold suffering in their hundreds of thousands. In addition to this, several former African heads of state have been given a cold-shoulder by the PNU government and nobody knows quite what happened to the efforts of Nobel laureate Desmond Tutu. The concerns of international community have been openly rebuffed leading to threats of imposing economic sanctions by all major donors. Is there any guilt or self-respect in government? Dont these Kenyan lives have any value?

On the other hand, ODM has been seen to be committed to all mediation processes and had even dropped all pre-conditions, including suspension of mass action rallies, in order to facilitate the negotiation with PNU in a peaceful atmosphere. According to ODM, "it is patently obvious that we do not have a partner to negotiate with."

Where does this leave helpless civilians?

103 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think all the so called Eminent persons are just messing with our heads for nothing.
Kenyans will have to get a Kenyan solution to those who have stolen our rights.
There are those who trivial the issues and think Kibaki is sitting pretty bcoz he sneaked and swore himself under heavy guard.
We have a long stretch to go and people will soon stop talking of biz losses as the figures will be too mind bogling.
Meanwhile the thief should not 4-get there is a higher authority above all of us who knows what he has planned??

Anonymous said...

To all these PNU fellows yapping all over: What would you have said had Moi 'done a Kibaki' for his protégé, Uhuru in 2002? Please be honest.

Anonymous said...

Kibaki has prorogued parliament:

http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=47652

But as soon as parliament is reconvened ODM should use their numbers to give the spaker control of the parliamentary calendar.And remove sole control of the security forces from the executive.

Anonymous said...

Very bad move Kibaki !!!! bad boy.

Anonymous said...

DOM should just do the good work of officio opposicion and wait for 2012 when we field the indomitable duo of Kalonzo & Uhuru for yet another 10year term till 2022. By then bwana Amollo will be 77 the right age for a president, now he is too young and inexperienced, let him get very needed exp. in hte opposicion benches.funny to see how Ndimama was very agitated yesterday!

Anonymous said...

Anon@6:26, ditto! I have asked that question several times and have not received any answers. Maybe you'll yield some responses;-). I have read posts advocating the media ban and outlaw on rallies. When Moi did all of the above in the late 80s and early 90s, he was a dictator; when Kibaki does the same he is "teaching Kenyans a lesson, showing them who is in charge, restoring order, etc. Thus, it seems it's ok to hijack our fragile democracy and its institutions, violate the civil rights of Kenyans if Kibaki has his foot on the gas peddle but no one else!

Finally, every single Kenyan life is valuable. No tribe has a monopoly on that....from those burned in the church, those dying as a result of genital mutilation, those dying simply because they look like they belong to a certain tribe, those brutally shot by police (looting nothwithstanding -that's what jails are for)those dying because their neighbors have turned against them, etc.

May justice and peace win!

Anonymous said...

I HATE THESE GEMA PEOPLE WITH A PASSION!

Anonymous said...

jaluo you are as stupid and primitive as they come. Some of you are ignorant by choice or were born with a defect like that, especially phil!.
Kazi iendele. Kenya is moving on and the world has acknowledged. stop whining like little babies, PNU IS THE GOVERMENT.

Anonymous said...

DICTATOR KIBAKI!

Anonymous said...

Kibaki is not the president and so soes not have the powers to prorogue paliament.
and

"If the National Assembly passes a resolution which is supported by the votes of a majority of all the members of the Assembly…declaring that it has no confidence in the Government of Kenya, and the President does not within three days of the passing of that resolution either resign from his office or dissolve Parliament, Parliament shall stand dissolved on the fourth day following the day on which that resolution was passed".
Constitution of Kenya, Chapter 3 Section 55 (3)

Tamtam said...

Phil,

Could you please tell me what engines Mutula Kilonzo mentioned that accompanied him,while voting, in his point of order yesterday?

Do people carry engines with them to vote, I have never seen that?

Anonymous said...

These ODMers have perfected the art of barking the loudest and getting nothing done. It is interesting to see how people all of a sudden get hit with a dab of amnesia and forget that a month ago Kenya was one of the most stable and economically productive countries within the sphere....who do we accredit that to??? For sure not the hooligans like Orengo and the rest of his band member

Parliament yesterday was pathetic...it looked like something out of a tasteless reality show starring Orengo .

Now after they have yapped and yapped week calling for peaceful demonstrations . They stated last week after police threatened to ban the demonstrations and I quote "let them arrest us, it is not the first time they have done so" then come the big day they are all AWOL. IN ALL HONESTY WHO LOOKS LIKE THE FOOL HERE???

I am positive that Mr. Annan backed out for the only reason he was not ready to join the circus as all he was coming to do in negotiate with a bunch of ridiculous clowns.

KAZI ITAENDELA....continue yapping away ODM peeps...you provide us with good entertainment LOL

Anonymous said...

WAJALUO WAMEKOSA KAZE YA KUFANYA. ALL THEY KNOW IS LOOTING AND WALKING AROUNG THE STREETS OF NAIROBI TRYING TO CATCH CHEAP BARGAINS.
AS I SAID, stay online tutawafundisha not to be primitive....this is not KISUMU.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 8.34 - credit goes to Moi and Kenyatta. Not Dictator Kibaki

Anonymous said...

Enyewe ODM'ers i heard that you are trying to start an SOUTH AFRICAN-ANC type of revolution. Ata! please don't even go there. You people you will becomes the clowns of the town. Talk show host, starring phil and chris himself.

Anonymous said...

By the way, Sam Okello kumekucha republic is looking for a potential 2012 presidential candidate. I thought it might interest you rather playing hide and seek in the city.

Anonymous said...

Point of order! how can you set apart religion and politics? how can a pastor be allowed to be an MP? IS IT ETHICAL? Ok ODM'ers before you payuka, i know there is no law in kenya that prohibits pastors to preside in parliament. Think beyond that, can margaret wanjiru influence her leaders religiously without motivating them politically? how can it be possible without being a collision? mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Alimpaka Pakacha said...

NAIROBI, Kenya - Kenyan police battled hundreds of opposition protesters on Wednesday, killing two, as the opposition defied a ban on rallies against President Mwai Kibaki’s disputed re-election, witnesses said.

From the western opposition stronghold of Kisumu to the coastal city of Mombasa, in the capital Nairobi and the Rift Valley town of Eldoret, police clashed with gangs of youths, some of whom erected roadblocks and burnt tires.

Police in Kisumu shot in the air and used teargas and batons to disperse a 1,000-strong crowd. Two men were shot dead, witnesses said. A Reuters cameraman saw a corpse in the street, with bullet wounds in the back and side.

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In Nairobi, police chased a series of protesters through the central business district, firing teargas and live rounds in the air. The gas seeped into nearby offices.

Three youths were shot in the back of the leg as they tried to run from officers in the sprawling Nairobi slum of Kibera, one of Africa’s biggest, a hospital administrator said.

'Trying to escape'
“It was so crowded, a very narrow place. I was trying to escape and I got a bullet in my leg,” one of the three, 18-year-old student Oscar Junior, said from his hospital bed.

Many Kenyans and expatriates in the capital stayed at home, shopkeepers boarded windows and traffic was light.

More than 600 people have died and 250,000 have been left homeless in the turmoil since Kibaki was sworn in after a December 27 vote that the leader of the opposition Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), Raila Odinga, says was rigged.

Police outlawed three days of rallies called by the ODM. Rights groups and Western governments, including the United States, have called on Kenya to lift the ban.

Gangs threw up roadblocks near Eldoret, in the Rift Valley area worst hit by the violence, while in Mombasa, police dispersed some 150 youths, scattering them briefly before they attempted to regroup, witnesses said.

“We want Kibaki to resign and pave the way for our rightful President Raila Odinga,” said demonstrator Joel Oduor in Kisumu, coughing and crying from teargas.

Government challenges critics
Kenya’s political crisis has jeopardized its democratic credentials, angered donors, driven away tourists and hurt one of Africa’s most promising economies.

Fuelling doubt over Kibaki’s win — officially by 230,000 of 10 million votes cast — a senior U.S. official said on Wednesday it was impossible to know who won the presidency.

“We have done our own analysis. What it shows is that the result was extremely close and that whoever won probably won with no more than 100,000 votes at the most,” Washington’s ambassador to Kenya, Michael Ranneberger, told the Daily Nation.

“It is really not possible to say with certainty who won because the process was not transparent.” But he called for power-sharing rather than a new vote or re-count.

Kibaki has solidified his position by naming the core of a new cabinet and convening parliament. But the opposition got a boost by winning the post of speaker in the assembly on Tuesday.

'Turning point'
“Yesterday marked a turning point,” Odinga told reporters. ”The terrible wrong done Kenyans on 27th of December will not be able to stand. This is an illegitimate presidency.”

ODM has the most legislators of any party, but does not have enough to win a no-confidence vote unless parties allied to Kibaki join it. Underscoring its narrow edge in parliament, ODM’s choice for speaker won by just four votes.


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Odinga and other opposition leaders headed in a convoy towards Nairobi’s central Uhuru Park, ringed by riot police to prevent protests. Some of the leaders were tear gassed.

The United States and 12 other nations threatened to pull direct aid if the government’s commitment to “good governance, democracy, the rule of law and human rights weakens.”

But the government challenged critics to show proof.

“You have publicly claimed that the presidential results were flawed. Can you provide tangible evidence?” said a state advert in local media.

The opposition also stands accused of rigging and ballot-stuffing in its own heartlands during the polls.

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Anonymous said...

http://www.mashada.com/forums/kenya-2008/63551-what-wrong-nyanza-people.html

HILARIOUS ...To you ODM die hards please enlighten us on what that nonsocial banner held by one of your supporters is supposed to imply.

" NO RAILA NO PEACE NO EDUCATION"

Who is loosing here???? Kibaki already has his multiple degrees and the rest of the nation is moving on .

What a ridiculous bunch

Anonymous said...

This came a little too late. I was expecting you guys to nail it as soon as it happened or before hand. You are just a buch of ridiculus clones; what does pnu and Michuki have to do with Koffi being sick. Could you think like a grown ass man before you post some of your articles.

Vikii said...

Anonymous 8.56, I have asked myself these questions many times. How many times does Kibaki go shopping in Kisumu's Ukwala? Why in the world should we be concerned with people torching themselves?

Anonymous said...

@alimpaka pakcha....please do not bore us with your ridiculous cut and paste BS...if you are not creative enough to come up with your own arguments then use your talent elsewhere ..believe me your input will not be missed

Anonymous said...

anon @ 8.41 that proves how much knowledge you have or lack there of??? Are you going to give credit to Moi for the past 5 years? Kibaki took over when our economy was in shambles and has done alot ...and this by the way is not my point of view...if you haven't read any financial periodicals in the past 5 years or anything to that nature...don't bring your tasteless pointless arguments here . Show us where you get your info from or is it JUST for arguments sake?

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 8:007AM


The part of the constitution that you post made me sit up and think for a minute.

What if ODM by the miracle of God was able to garner the 2/3 majority in parliament and pass the vote of no confidence in Kibaki’s government, would Kibaki give up power?

I highly doubt it, given the precedent that was set after December 30th.

The only way of making Kibaki listen is to launch an armed insurgency then come to the negotiating table as equals both possessing instruments if violence

Rabet.

Anonymous said...

Vikii and all these other PNU cocksuckers are in serious denial. emilio kibaki's old senile bitch ass might be in statehouse but that is just a building. Raila is the people's president, the people i.e. the majority of Kenyans who voted in the presidential election are with him. There are many innocent Kikuyus who ar ebeing targeted by some frustrated Kenyans and that is wrong. While I cannot as a compassionate human being ever condone such activities I do believe that inciteful comments from silly bitches like Vikii who prior to special surgery once were men, only add to the general frustration. If people are ready to move on why is there still a media ban, why do the police have to prevent people from exercising their rights? The reason is PNU is living a lie. I have read some imbecile has talked about the formidable duo of uhuru and Kalonzo and laughed. This country won't be led by two people who are at their best when they are on their knees awaiting direction from their masters not to mention the fact that neither can muster any kind of support that even resembles a national outlook. i know some of you have come to Vikii defense, but i must remind you all that despite whatever surgery she has undergone, she was once a man and men should stick up for themselves even those men who like to suck dick(kalonzo's albeit)!!

Sweetie Banana said...

It is amazing the way everything says that Kibaki rigged the elections, but so far no evidence has been brought to the table. As ODM has the country pretty much under arrest, and have recently put their stamp on the parliament, it is time for them to put forward this evidence. If any of you had the ambition to be a president, and you were sworn in in suspicious circumstances, I am sure you would still defend your position until proved otherwise. If Raila and his advisors are thinking on their feet, they should be looking for subtle ways of unseating Kibaki, not trying to pull a Mexico because some Dick Morris person saw what happened in Mexico and advised them to use the same tactic twice. It is not working, time for plan B.

Anonymous said...

ODM will rule kenya one day but they will have to wait;

kalonzo/wetangula/uhuru 2013 -2022
watengula/uhuru/mutava 2023-2032
uhuru/mutava 2033-2042
mutava 2042-2052

Then it will be mzee raila's turn.

In the mean time it is about to break up ito ODM asili and something else.

Anonymous said...

dick head above, the ECK commisioner himself has said that election result in regards to the presidency are in doubt. That in addition to the other commisioners that have had the decency to come out say the process was rigged once it was clear Emilio was losing. Furthermore why would ODM waste their time in a court system that has also be ruined by the likes of emilio and co. It would be like a black man trying to prove a hate crime in Mississippi during the 1960s. Dickhead aka sweet banana please find a sharp knife or a pair of scissors and see how many times you can stab yourself!!

Anonymous said...

@anon 10.38 is that the best you can do...call us cock suckers...Wow

Now we can truly see who barks the loudest with HOT AIR.

At least we back our arguments...all you ODM goons are good at is throwing insults as opposed to arguments of logic AND reason. And when all is said you hurl insults or copy and paste some BS from other sources other than your own brains.

If Kibaki is that senile...you all are dumber than we thought...to be OUTSMARTED by and I quote "senile ass" as you call him LOL

Let the sleeping, barking dogs do what they do best…KAZI ITAENDELA

Anonymous said...

it is true that kibaki has improved the economy(even if felt by just a few). it is also true that he stole the precidency(rather shodily). why are these two facts just too much to swallow for some people? lets not be selective. we should admit that he stole just as we admit that he improved the economy...fact...way foreward, step down and go memory lane with some dignity.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anon at 10:29 but anon at 10:25 yes you are a cocksucker, why would I waste time describing you in any other way than what you are. yes Kibaki is an old senile ass but he has some people around him who should be using their intelligence for the good of Kenya instead of their bank accounts, giving him orders. In closing anon at 10:25 please continue with your cock sucking

Harris said...

ODM officials have produced a list of MPs to be nominated. On the other hand, ODM Pentagon (hehehe) has produced a DIFFERENT list of MPs to be nominated amongst them the fellow ODM star that failed to shine in Gachoka--Nyagah--and the friend of the Warlord Ruto called Musa Sirma.
Raila has emphatically said that the Pentagon list is Final!.
The ECK has to go with the list produced by the Signed Officials, not the Pentagon's list.
Maybe its just me but Pentagon will call for mass action to protest their list was the right one and their nominated MPs were rigged out by ODM officials and ECK!. They will then burn houses in Kisumu.

And now, ladies and gentile men, brace yourself for the splitting of ODM with Raila as a de facto leader of a faction! (ODM-Asili, ODM Saba Saba; ODM Pentagon; ODM "we won but were rigged out" Peoples president?--now accepting names!). When this happens, it will not be the first time that Raila breaks ranks with his own party--NARC, LDP, NDP, FORD-K, KANU--etc.
When those nominated MPs from ODM officials come to parliament, they will be sucked in by PNU,having been jilted by ODM-Pentagon, then any ODM MP who needs a ministerial position, just needs to get a letter from the legal officials of ODM to be in the GNU.
History, folks, has a way of repeating itself.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 10.39 go back to your bed pan or something ...HOT AIR is all you have to CONTRIBUTE . Did you go beyond Standard 5 or were you in the school for hard knocks cause your vocabulary is overwhelmingly nonsensical .
Believe me I am not the one who looks like an uneducated pervert...YOU DO !!!!!!!!!

Next time be more original…we are all adults here and insulting me is really not adding any salt to any wound but entertaining me with your shallowness LOL

Once again..Kazi Itaendelea .whether you like it or not

Anonymous said...

Point of correction Rabet…

The constitution does not call for 2/3 majority in parliament to pass a vote of no confidence... just a majority.
Hence 51% of elected and nominated members or parliament is all the opposition needs to take this action.

“If the National Assembly passes a resolution which is supported by the
votes of a majority of all the members of the Assembly (excluding the ex
officio members), and of which not less than seven days’ notice has been
given in accordance with the standing orders of the Assembly, declaring
that it has no confidence in the Government of Kenya, and the President
does not within three days of the passing of that resolution either resign
from his office or dissolve Parliament, Parliament shall stand dissolved
on the fourth day following the day on which that resolution was passed.”

Anonymous said...

I LKOVE THIS CIRCUS. WAZI ODM....WHAT WOULD THE WORLD BE WITHOUTH ODM'ers!

sweetie banana said...

My dear anonymous, I am merely stating the truth, you didnt respond to what I commented, you brought up a whole new topic about the ECK commissioners who said that it has been rigged but havent even mentioned who they think has rigged. On that saturday before they announced the results, ODM had countless doctored form 16's and 16a's in addition to the returning officer whistle blower who has 'fled'.What happened to all those documents? They must still have them somewhere. If they had such an airtight case, they would have won by now, Kibaki would be at least disgraced prompting fresh elections or something of the sort. ODM do not have to use the court system to show their evidence! They can use the media, which in spite of the ban can still record and play their broadcasts,maybe they should consult Greenpeace, who are very good at this sort of thing. They tried to pull a Mexico, you cant even defend that, DIck Morris was the advisor to the Mexican president (The Kibaki) and saw watched the opposition tactics from a front row seat. All I have said is, if ODM want to be political kingpins, they better start using plan B, coz plan A is starting to falter, and it might weaken their battle. This is like a boxing match, theyve tried the punches, now they should try being quicker and more nimble on their feet.

Anonymous said...

Sweet banana. point well taken. ODM have nothing to show or any proof the PNU rigged the elctions. Although is is abvious that both parties did rig the elections. All ODM constituencies had a voter turnout of near/over 100% the registered votes. How can this be practicable. Mr. Raila's campaign was absolutely successful to the extent that there was a voter turnout in excess of 100% in al constituencies. How can this be practicable? His PR campaigns were even outstanding. He was able to shift election rigging focus to PNU even before the elections started. come on, does anyone see some anomaly here?
why is it the ODM'ers always payuka if things don't go their way? Why are they complaining about kisumu lacking basic facilities while they have raped the town dry? ODM'ers is it me or I my in a different world here? Aren't we all kenyans?!!!
As as said, stay online, tutawafundisha not to be primitive.....this is not kisumu. To those proud kenyans...kazi iendele. A time comes when you stop breast feeeding. au siyo?

Anonymous said...

Kazi Itaendelea for Kikuyus now means worms eating them up in the graves.No tribalism just truth.

Its time for you all to figure out how your going to live with other Kenyans........that is if you intend to live.

Anonymous said...

annon 10.41....you are dispaying the characteristics for a primitive ODM'er. I suggests you check yourself into REHAB!!!!.

I will give you seven days and you will all be full rehabilitated. although suffering from menopause.

Anonymous said...

Kazi Itaendelea for Kikuyus now means worms eating them up in the graves.

No tribalism just truth.

Its time for you all to figure out how your going to live with other Kenyans........that is if you intend to live.

Anonymous said...

you are not woth the effort annon@ 11.46. you cannot take a donkey to the river nor can you teach an old dog new tricks.
I'm not a kyuk for your information, but they are my brothers in blood. your comments show how stupid you can get and lack basic creativity. this could be as a result of ignorance, choice or just a defect.

Anonymous said...

No tribalism just truth

Anonymous said...

@11.44 it is noteven worth arguing with an illiterate, ignorant bigot who can even bring him/herself to write such filth like anon 11.41 just did.
They are clearly effortlessly making mockery of themselves, they don’t need our help for that .

@ 11.41 as for your EMPTY IDIOTIC THREAT..take them to the bank and see if you will get some dollars …Kikuyus are here to stay

Anonymous said...

And the truth shall set you free my brother. Seek and you will find. But do not seek and hide. No, we need to speak the same langauge as one. I do not revere Kibaki nor Raila. They are both to blame. But we as kenyans should show some character, intelligence and respect for life at this point of time.

Anonymous said...

kikuyus must go back to there filthy ancestral land, kenyata helped them to take other peoples land by force its pay back time big time. Let kibaki give them new plots to plant waru. And for us we shall take arms and fight the jigger invested,stained teeth crooked legged thiefing kikuyus. What evidence do you went when even the returning officer of molo disowned the results read by kivuitu? why did it take three days to submit results from juja yet its next to nairobi and kivuitu doesnt even know if kibaki won elections. you must have been concieved and living in sin like most kikuyus not to relate events.why were they agaisnt immediate retallying?

Anonymous said...

annon12.05@ you are beyond help.

Anonymous said...

@anon 12.08..very well put. Let's not stoop to their level with obscene insults...there has to be a bigger person here...and by judging from this thread its painfully clear who those are

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I give up said...

Following Kenyan politics has become depressing. I shed tears for those who are struggling to survive (Jua Kali, domestic work, under paid workers, subsistence farmers, etc, etc.)

Imagine if all the resources spent in battling for the Presidency would have gone into Medicine, Micro loans, and many more worthy causes.

Yes, you have elites fighting it out, but only elites have the resources to rise and therefore lead. People should be thankful that you have the Railia's and Kibaki who want to lead the Nation.

BUT, elections are there to usher change if necessary. If ONLY Kibaki had been graceful in defeat.

I for one am deleting all Kenyan blogs from my Favs. I have had enough.

God (if there is one) bless Kenya and look after her most needy of all races and tribes.

Anonymous said...

ha ha na boda if are not ready for the heat get out of the kitchen. you may portend to know who i am but am sure the home truth struck you where its matters. What happens when the refferee declares he was biased and was escorted under tight kikuyu security to state house? why did a man who had the mandate of majority kenyans swear himself in office under the guise of darkenes. chickens have come home to roost,let kikuyus burn in there owm oil. kibaki wont protect all off you. for every one of us killed by police or munguki a hundred of you will pay in cold blood.its time u woke up to your thiefing senses. you have raped the coutry resources, plunderred the public coffers and now you want us to watch as you mutilate our inherent to vote hapana.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:47 you are equally entertaining if for nothing else than the fact you prove that cocksuckers are good for more than one thing.

Anonymous said...

Killing our own!!!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DtFhwgyeVyI

Anonymous said...

@12.31 quit while you are ahead ...still lingering with your nonsensical obscenity. Calling me cock sucker will not belittle me in any way...you are of shallow mind . You missed the point ages ago…now you just repeat the same sentence over and over again.
Go sing a nursery rhyme or something …that’s where you belong…signing nursery rhymes. this is an adult thread. Kapish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

hey anon at 12:45 don't tell me to do anything because you lack a morality. How can you, a bonafide Fellatio Specialist tell me to go sing nursery songs, when that is the method you use to prey on young boys. Go fuck yourself!! or suck a dick

Anonymous said...

CAN WE KIKUYUS LIVE TOGETHER WITH KENYANS, REALLY?

We Kikuyus have everything: Banks, Supermarket chains, International Hotels at the Coast and NBI, Dairy processing, Coffee, Tea Estates, Soft Drink Industries, Brewing Industries, etc.

I am aware that most scientists and best lawyers are from Western Kenya. We need people, who dont earn alot to do scientific thinking and lawyers to protect our interests.

We need consumers everywhere in the country.

We have settled anywhere in Kenya from Ukunda to Busia, from Garissa to Homabay, from Eldoret to Taveta. We are everywhere.

What if the whole Kenya turns against us, shall we be able to survive? How will the presidency help us with? My uncle's thriving buisiness plus villa has been burnt down in Eldoret. He will never go back to the wonderfull town again. How will the 5 yr stolen presidency help him with? Is it worth losing Kenyan customers, and in the big Kikuyu hotels in Mombasa, international tourists because Kibaki wants to keep on playing golf and pretending to be ruling?

My niece had a kiosk in Mombasa, my cousin had a stall in Kisumu, my sis-in-law had a textile shop in Kakamega. They are all dead! Will the stolen presidency make them live again.

My fellow Kikuyu men and women, Kenyans have been cheated. Kenyans are not fools. Kibaki has refused to allow democracy to continue in Kenya. We are the only community which will pay dearly for this coup de tat by Kibaki, EVEN IF PEACE prevails.

Let's open our eyes. Reject injustice in Kenya. I warn that we shall suffer, if we dont join hands with other Kenyan brothers and sisters to codemn this democracy killer named Kibaki.

Enough is enough. Kenya should remain democratic and UNITED. Join other Kenyans to demontrate against tyranny. Save Kenya, if you love Kikuyuland.

Kimani

FFS!!! said...

This blog is defo an extension of mashada. Is mashada down? Is that the reason all the stupid arse haters are coming on here to argue moot points? Si muanze blogs zenu nyinyi negative anons, muandike what it is you think is smart? Why do you feel compelled to read this blog? Jeeeeezz! Can't even put your names to your posts - shame on you!

Anonymous said...

At Anon 11:11 am. If they pass a vote of no confidence on govt, parliament is dissolved and that means they will have to face the electorate again. How many of those current MP's want to sacrifice their Ksh 500 K per month "freebie" (salary) to face the electorate again? And are u sure that someone like Bishop Wanjiru will be re-elected again? I highly doubt they'll pass a vote of no confidence based on the fact that they want to first "kula"! Right now when the cheques start ingia-ing their accounts, they will forget the common mwananchi.

Anonymous said...

Kimani@2.49pm, please go to Kikuyu.com and put ur lies there. We know u r not a kikuyu. kimundu giki kina wana muingi muno, nimwona uguo kiandikite maundu matari na mbere kana thutha. Ndirenda gukira atiriri, nigithie kirue, jamaa iyo ni mera.ati andu ao othe mena mabiashara kenya ng'ima, kuma githumo, mabatha na gwothe. Kimani tiga wani meni!

Harris said...

ODM officials have produced a list of MPs to be nominated. On the other hand, ODM Pentagon (hehehe) has produced a DIFFERENT list of MPs to be nominated amongst them the fellow ODM star that failed to shine in Gachoka--Nyagah--and the friend of the Warlord Ruto called Musa Sirma.
Raila has emphatically said that the Pentagon list is Final!.
The ECK has to go with the list produced by the Signed Officials, not the Pentagon's list.
Maybe its just me but Pentagon will call for mass action to protest their list was the right one and their nominated MPs were rigged out by ODM officials and ECK!. They will then burn houses in Kisumu.

And now, ladies and gentile men, brace yourself for the splitting of ODM with Raila as a de facto leader of a faction! (ODM-Asili, ODM Saba Saba; ODM Pentagon; ODM "we won but were rigged out" Peoples president?--now accepting names!). When this happens, it will not be the first time that Raila breaks ranks with his own party--NARC, LDP, NDP, FORD-K, KANU--etc.
When those nominated MPs from ODM officials come to parliament, they will be sucked in by PNU,having been jilted by ODM-Pentagon, then any ODM MP who needs a ministerial position, just needs to get a letter from the legal officials of ODM to be in the GNU.
History, folks, has a way of repeating itself.

Otieno said...

Road to recovery likely to be long and hard for Kisumu after violent protests:

A town that had established itself as a regional economic and commercial hub self-destructed in an orgy of violence as gangs went on the rampage under the pretext of protesting the outcome of the presidential elections.

A building set ablaze by rioters in Kisumu Town in retaliation after Kibuye market was razed last week. Photos/JACOB OWITI
From being the vibrant gateway of the larger Eastern African market, Kisumu has been paralysed by violence, and the aftershocks are being felt in Rwanda, Uganda and other countries which rely on Kenya’s road network for fuel supplies and for cargo from the port of Mombasa.

It will take years for the town on the shores of Lake Victoria to rise from the debris and regain its lost glory.

Anglican Bishop Francis Abiero said the town was facing “a slow, painful realisation that it could be condemned to endless stagnation”.

Death, blood and tears have been haunting the town since December 30, with authorities estimating that about 50 people could have been shot dead by the police.

Hospitals in the town have over 60 patients nursing gunshot wounds, while 146 others had been treated and discharged, said Dr Julianna Otieno, the medical superintendent of the New Nyanza General Hospital.

Sought treatment

The number could be higher because there were patients who sought treatment in private hospitals.

The debris of the destroyed buildings mirror the tattered hopes of thousands of people who worked in the town but now face joblessness. Supermarkets, bars, churches and industries are no more. They were looted and burned.

On Oginga Odinga Street, two branches of Ukwala Supermarket and two Bata shoe shops were looted and burned by youths. Port Florence Hospital and the Swan Centre, which hosted several shopping outlets, were not spared either. The same fate befell Tusky’s Supermarket and two branches of Kimwa Hotels on Jomo Kenyatta highway. Kimwa Hotels owner, Mr Miriti Muthara, said he incurred loses estimated at Sh40 million.

But managers at both Ukwala and Tusky’s said it was difficult to establish the amount lost because vital documents on stocks were destroyed.

On Obote Road, shells of burnt-out vehicles stand at intervals. Not even new cars that had been on display were spared by the arsonists; Looters also stole spare parts from the Crater Automobiles showroom which had six cars at the time. After stealing, they set the showroom on fire.

At the Lake Victoria South Water Board, the car park is littered with burnt shells of 17 vehicles which stand near the office block that was also destroyed by arsonists.

Stalls from where estate residents bought groceries were also reduced to ashes as was the Kibuye open air market, which feeds the town and provides employment to many. The town’s industrial area, where hundreds of casual workers used to line up every morning in search of jobs, now looks like it had been attacked by mortar fire.

What started as a street protest degenerated into massive looting within hours. Gangs moved from shop to shop, emptying stocks and then burning the premises.

But unlike post-election violence in the Rift Valley, where marauding gangs were targeting ethnic communities they accused of not voting for ODM, in Kisumu the pattern was more of random looting and burning.

However, it was also only in Kisumu that looters were felled by police bullets. Still, local businessmen have accused the police of not doing enough to secure the central business district from destruction as happened in Nairobi.

Gunshot wounds

A senior medical officer at the provincial hospital, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said almost all the deaths recorded in Kisumu were from gunshot wounds.

“From a medical perspective, we think there was a shoot to kill order from the fact that most of those admitted either had bullets lodged in their abdomens or chests,” said the doctor.

Mr Aggrey Mwamu, the Law Society of Kenya West Kenya branch chairman, said over 80 per cent of the deaths recorded in the town occurred in residential areas, which in his view, were free of the looting reported in the Central Business District.

But Kisumu police boss Simon Kiragu denied accusations of high handedness and dismissed claims by the lawyer and the doctor as subjective.

“The police reacted depending on the magnitude of the violence, but even then, we tried our level best to restrain from shooting more people,” he said.

At the height of the chaos, there were rumours that the shootings were the work of military officers from Uganda, an allegation that police spokesman Eric Kiraithe later disputed.

Before the violence broke out, Kisumu was an attractive town for businesspeople because they enjoyed good returns from their investments. But now, many of them are lamenting after suffering huge losses at the hands of looters and arsonists. The business community, led by the local chapter of the Kenya National Chamber of Commerce and Industry, has asked the Government to exempt them from paying taxes. They said that they had incurred huge losses and their books of accounts had been destroyed by fire.

The chairman of the Kisumu chamber branch, Mr Jerry Ochanda, expressed doubts that some businesses could be revived. According to him, grants would be needed to help them restock but even then the question of investor confidence still remains because many had fled and had vowed never to return.

Mr Ochanda said the losses incurred could run into billions of shillings. According to him, many of the burnt buildings will have to be brought down because they were damaged extensively.

Besides this, Kisumu has been struggling to get its routine supplies of vital commodities because major roads leading to the town still had illegal roadblocks manned by gangs of youths especially in Rift Valley.

Many businessmen and professionals doubt that Kisumu can recover soon without massive injection of external help.

“Donor support to micro-finance institutions and other affected groups can help alleviate these problems and save us from collapse,” said Mr Samuel Deya, the executive director of Adok Timo, a micro-finance institution. Mr Deya estimated that small and medium-sized businesses lost Sh50 million due to missed business opportunities and destruction of property. Close to 80 per cent of the such businesses were affected by the violence. These include 184 shops which were looted and burnt leading to a loss of 5,000 jobs. This will adversely affect micro-finance institutions which are unlikely to recover outstanding loans.

Some business premises that have started operations have to incur the extra cost paying for armed security to keep away hungry looters.

Business losses

Besides the business losses, Anglican Bishop Francis Abiero said healing could be hard to come by because politics shattered the harmony communities enjoyed in the past.

“The country is bleeding and the confidence and trust communities had in each other were eroded by the aftermath of the elections. It will take a long time to restore the glory of the town and heal the inter-tribal relations,” he said.

The Kisumu police boss has also expressed fears that the once secure town could become crime-prone because major shops and business activities had been grounded and the town had experienced a high exodus of investors. These could lead to further job losses.

In the estates, it has become difficult for shoppers to carry home their supplies because of hungry criminal gangs who steal from passersby.

Anonymous said...

Both sides should first acknowledge that there is a problem.

The problem will never be solves until it is addressed obviously.

stupid simple said...

For those who do not see a problem i am sorry.
For those who do realize we have a problem i am with you.I am most glad that the international community have shown warning signs of things to come.What a shame for this old group.For those who think Kibaki is crazy,Just a reminder this old group is like that.MY very parent is much crazier than kibaki and lucy combined.So u can imagine!!!!!!!!

IPP Media Tanzania said...

Kibaki & Odinga ...ilikuwa patashika

2008-01-16 18:30:59
Na NAIROBI, Kenya


Kilichotokea jana katika kikao cha kwanza cha Bunge la Kenya tangu kufanyika kwa uchaguzi mkuu Desemba 27 mwaka jana, kilikuwa si cha kawaida!

Lilifumka patashika nguo kuchanika! Unaambiwa waheshimiwa wabunge, kila mmoja kwa raha zake alijimwaga apendavyo! Mwenye kebehi hayaa...mwenye mitusi hayaa...mwenye madongo hayaa...ilimradi mdomo ni mali yake.

Kwa mujibu wa magazeti ya nchini Kenya, kimbembe cha kwanza kilianza mapema wakati mahasimu wawili, Rais Mwai Kibaki na Bw. Raila Odinga walipoingia kwenye ukumbi wa Bunge huku kila mmoja akiwa ametazama upande wake kana kwamba ni paka na panya. Inasemekana wawili hao hata kupeana mkono walishindwa.

Alipoingia Bw. Odinga katika ukumbi huo wa Bunge mishale ya saa 8:40 mchana, msindikizaji wake ambaye alikuwa ni mbunge wa Mvita Bw. Najib Balala, alipaza sauti yake na kusema ``Mheshima Rais`` ikiwa ni ishara ya kuwataka wabunge wa upinzani kunyanyuka ili kutoa heshima kwa Bw. Odinga.

Kutokana na ishara hiyo wabunge wote wa upinzani walinyanyuka na kumpa heshima zote Bw. Odinga ambaye alikwenda moja kwa moja hadi katika kiti chake kilichokuwa pembeni mwa wajumbe wa Pentagon Bw. Musalia Mudavadi, Bw. William Ruto, Balala na Bi. Charity Ngilu.

Muda mfupi baadaye Kibaki naye aliingia ndani ya ukumbi huo huku wabunge wa upinzani wakigoma kunyanyuka katika viti vyao kumpa heshima yake kama rais nchi.

Upande wa Serikali na wabunge wa chama chake ndio walioweza kunyanyuka na kumpa heshima yake na kutambua uwepo wake.

Utovu huo wa nidhamu uliwahi kuonekana ndani ya bunge hilo mwaka 1992 baada ya kiongozi wa upinzani Marehemu Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, alipokataa kunyanyuka kumpa heshima rais Daniel Arap Moi.

Kibaki peke yake akiwa kiongozi wa chama cha DP na wabunge wachache wa upinzani ndio waliosimama kumpa heshima yake.

Sakata lingine lilitokea pale mbunge mmoja aliposimama na kutoa hoja akitaka maelezo ni kwanini Rais Kibaki aanze kwa kupiga kura yake wakati wanafuata mpangilio wa kiherufi.

Hata hivyo msimamizi wa uchaguzi huo, Bw. Samuel Ndindiri, alikataa hoja hiyo na kusema kuwa Rais Kibaki ndiye atakayeanza kupiga kura.

Baadaye alifuata mbunge wa Budalang\'i wa ODM Bw. Ababu Namwamba, ambaye aligoma kupiga kura yake hiyo na kumweleza msimamizi huyo kuwa ``Huyu ni rais wa watu anahitaji heshima yake pia,`` akiwa anamaanisha Bw. Odinga.

Baada ya kusema maneno hayo, alimwita Bw. Odinga kwenda kupiga kura yake, wakati huo, Rais Kibaki alibaki kwenye kiti chake mara baada ya kupiga kura yake huku akibadilishana mawazo na baadhi ya mawaziri wake.

Aidha mara baada ya uchaguzi huo uliompa ushindi Bw. Marende wa ODM Rais Kibaki, ambaye katika kipindi chote cha mkutano huo hakuzungusha jicho lake wala kusemeshana na Bw. Odinga alinyanyuka na kwenda kumpongeza spika mpya wa Bunge hilo.

Nafasi ya uspika ilikwenda kwa mgombea wa chama cha ODM, Kenneth Otiato.

Mgombea huyo wa ODM alinyakua kura 105 dhidi ya mpinzani wake, Francis Ole Kaparo ambaye anatoka chama cha PNU cha Rais Mwai Kibaki, aliyepata kura 101.

Kwa mujibu wa magazeti mbalimbali ya nchini humo, Rais Kibaki na hasimu wake mkuu Bw. Raila, licha ya kukaa katika viti vilivyokuwa umbali kama wa mita tatu, hawakuangaliana usoni.

Kibaki alikuwa amekalia kiti cha urais wakati Odinga alikuwa ameketi katika kiti cha Kiongozi wa Upinzani.

Awali wabunge wa PNU iliwalazimu kuingia ndani ya ukumbi huo saa 7:30 mchana ikiwa ni saa moja kabla ya kuanza kwa kikao hicho cha kumi cha bunge, kutokana na kuwepo kwa fununu kuwa wabunge wa ODM walikuwa wamepanga kukaa upande wa Serikali.

Wabunge wa ODM waliingia ukumbini hapo kwa pamoja mishale ya saa 8:10 na walipotinga tu ndani, wakaenda moja kwa moja kuketi upande wao wa mkono wa kushoto wa Spika.

Mbunge wa Muhoroni wa ODM, Prof Olweny Ayiecho, aliwakejeli wabunge wa PNU kwa kuwaambia ``Inaonyesha hata hamkwenda kupata chakula cha mchana leo``.

Anonymous said...

The legiticay and moral authorithy to rule by the kibaki government died with the first bullet aimed at demonstrators... in places where no demonstrators were shot at no looting, no foghting, no clashes were reported!
This government lost it all... they will always live in fear and may the blood of the innocent kikuyu, luo , kalenjin, luhyia, kamba, mjikenda,and others haunt them forever.
They lack tact and intelligence and use of brute force will never do anyone any good. Embiciles!

Anonymous said...

Police shoot dead Protester in Cold Blood.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DtFhwgyeVyI

savin said...

Kimani well said.
We love Kikuyuland but not Kibaki.
Please Kenya has a long way to go, Help us get our democracy back so we can all build Kenya together.

-Savin

kube said...

its very sad that police can apply such brutal force on its own citizen

jambs said...

kitendawili,

if the elections were repeated today - raila vs kibaki. who would win? honestly please. no emotions.

Anonymous said...

wajaka ni wajinga kabisa! now kisumu id dead.

Anonymous said...

Our tough lady,the daughter of the toilet cleaners was interviewed by bbc and she stressed that they never expected ethnical retaliation but just a small street protest over the flawed result.I take this to mean just a few luos throwing stones.Kenyans are not all luos.The Rift valley guys are not rioters but warriors.Yesterdyay there were sixty thousand protesters in eldy and what scares me is what they did in the streets,they cursed a traditional spell of war.Another very sad thing is that the there is no tribe in this country called the discipline forces.Those are our son being missused and they are slowly getting tied.Am told there are now split on politically and they are just waiting for something to trigger the major split.Be prepared of worse things to come.The govt is taking us there.

Anonymous said...

Raila has the ball in his hands. He is the one being blamed for the political instability and bloodshed throughout the country. Everytime he calls for mass demostration, millions of kenyans suffer. I will give ODM 7 DAYS FROM YESTERDAY, and it will self-destruct.

Anonymous said...

Jambs.. to what end? It's hypothetical and hardly relevant at this point when tensions are so high. Please stay out of the fray unless you have something positive to contribute - thanks.

Anonymous said...

(annon @ 8.34) These ODMers have perfected the art of barking the loudest and getting nothing done. It is interesting to see how people all of a sudden get hit with a dab of amnesia and forget that a month ago Kenya was one of the most stable and economically productive countries within the sphere....who do we accredit that to??? For sure not the hooligans like Orengo and the rest of his band member

Parliament yesterday was pathetic...it looked like something out of a tasteless reality show starring Orengo .

Now after they have yapped and yapped week calling for peaceful demonstrations . They stated last week after police threatened to ban the demonstrations and I quote "let them arrest us, it is not the first time they have done so" then come the big day they are all AWOL. IN ALL HONESTY WHO LOOKS LIKE THE FOOL HERE???

I am positive that Mr. Annan backed out for the only reason he was not ready to join the circus as all he was coming to do in negotiate with a bunch of ridiculous clowns.

KAZI ITAENDELA....continue yapping away ODM peeps...you provide us with good entertainment.
Bring on the 2nd day.

Anonymous said...

10.47 you sound like a broken record.

Anonymous said...

What this country needs is a change of attitude more so for the ruling elite by that I mean PNU.They and thier supporters just have a view that everyone is useless and that they have everything. How can u negotiate with pple like that?how can u reason with them?

This thing has the potential to die out for now.... but the reason why some pple have been receiving warnings is that when it crops up again it will be uncontrollable.

Anonymous said...

did you the youtube video in kisumu? this ODM'er fellow was trying on shoes he had just looted from his fellow ODM'er shopkeeper.
They were running down the street chanting MALI YETU! MALI YETU! lol...enyewe mali hii ni ya nani? how will you benefite from stealing from your neighbour in what RAILA defines as "justice".
As I said, stay online, tutawafundisha not to be primitive....Kazi iendele!

Anonymous said...

Point of Order! Order! Order! This is Mr speaker!. ODM'ers i have just being informed that there are some good bargains in the city. Please pass through Koinange street on your way to UHURU park to collect discounts!

Anonymous said...

Kibaki will soon pass away

Anonymous said...

Anon 10.53 - it is an expression of rage. Something the privileged of this country cannot or will not understand.

Anonymous said...

Anon@10.59 - do you have anything intelligent to say?

Anonymous said...

ODM'ers you are not worth my effort. DON'T FORGET TO SHOUT FOR 'JUSTICE' WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE. KAZI IENDELE

Anonymous said...

also please make an effort to check yourselves into rehab!

Anonymous said...

11.25/6 - don't forget to look in the mirror before you check-out.

jambs said...

if you are anonymous, then you cannot judge others. i asked a hypothetical question of who would win a fresh election if it were called today. anon@idontknowwhen had the guts to say that i have nothing positive to say. let me remind you that a rerun is one of the potential solutions to the impasse (ok, looking beyond this week!) now hypothesising like is useless to you? i am sorry if you are unable to look ahead and think of possibilities!

Phil said...

Anon@10.47

You have been told you sound like a broken record. (Anon@10.48) I think its more like a more like a scratched CD.

Jambs@11.35: TEGA! It is a no contest.

Without a doubt - your democratically elected President has been and will always be Raila Odinga. Bring it on.

Jan said...

jambs - ok - forgive my rude tone. but really, can an election be held anytime soon? I just think this question will bring out the worst in people on the blog (and worse still if it were a possibility). the economy is crashing as we speak. hundreds have been dispossessed. your question is acedemic - not practical which is why I reacted. I'll let others respond..

kube said...

i can believe how despondence our kibaki is?
can u watch this and still call uaself prezo?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DtFhwgyeVyI

kube said...

you cant believe this is kenya where our police are being used to kill wanainchi.
if the ODM supporters like rioting, why did they not do the same in hbay and other places they marched peacefully

Anonymous said...

ochieng, kwani you're now posting blogs as career change. Utameza wembe my friend! MARK MY WORDS, I GIVE ODM 7DAYS FROM WEDNESDAY AND IT WILL FALL APART.
Soon we will see ODM-A ODM-KISUMU ODM-K ODM-KAMILI! I mean ODM'ers please continue on with the circus by all means. Phil...Kazi iendele!!!@!!!!!

Jan said...

Yes, Kazi iendele, but the country is burning. Stop the rhetoric, man. You've made your point.

Anonymous said...

It is time to stop breat feeding these ODM'ers. Someone has to teach this fools a lesson. Time to stop playing padding them on the back and kuwabembeleza as if they weren't privelesged enough.
soon, you will witness how the will of the people comes down heavily upon you. I reapeat, ukipanda matatu en-route to nairobi, please be aware that this is not kisumu by all means. Your primitive behaviour does not apply in the streets of any other city apart from Kisumu.
The people of the lake did not deserve what ODM'ers did to them and i don't think they will regards you as cousins after the dust settles.
As I said, stay online. tutawafundisha not to be primitive....this is not kisumu nor any other city for your ill-concieved perceptions.

Anonymous said...

I think there should be a department for ODM HOOLIGANISM within the ODM PORTFOLIO.

Anonymous said...

Anons above

Who the hell are you talking to?

After all you have the perceprion that all ODM supporters are in the slums and cant afford to be on the internet.

So just who are you talking to?

jambs said...

you are forgiven jan.

from what i have seen on this blog (someone quoted the constitution on motion of no confidence) an election is possible soon (ok, assuming all ODM MPs and those who support them are willing to seek a fresh mandate).

that possibility logically led me to wonder aloud as i did.

Kibaki obviously will not step down unless (as someone suggested) there is voilent leverage. which right-thinking kenyan is ready to go into a guerilla war?

a vote of no confidence is to me a more attractive option. this will only happen if ODM is genuine about quest for democracy because it raises two important strategy issues:
a) is a majority of parliament willing to seek a fresh mandate?
b) if the answer to above is yes, would a re-run hand Raila the presidency?

if the answer to (b) is no then you can kiss the vote of no confidence goodbye.

jan, are you telling me such discourse is purely academic?

can someone shed some light regarding the constitutional position regarding a re-run - will kibaki be eligible?

Anonymous said...

If the views of the fools gloating about Mwizi Kibaki and his 40 thieves represent the thoughts of Gema, i fear we will have no country in 1 month!
Do not gloat bcoz others are dyeing, also remember many pple need to return to their homes. But if this is the attitude you'll only lead to victimisation of innocent Kenyans.
Can you stop being stupid!!

Anonymous said...

If there was a re-run and Raila lost, do you think it will change? This guy and his fellow ODM'ers have not contemplated defeat as option. They will only take a 'win' and that is what 'democracy' means when you look at it in ODM PERSPECTIVE.
They have completely misinterpreted the whole idea of democracy, justice and peace. They see themselves as total Kenyans above all Kenyans . ODM should not really go ahead of itself. It has proved not to be good for them for example; the election of Mr Marende is to the benefit of the government as it is to them. ODM’ers have proved to us they have no respectable leadership nor character.

Anonymous said...

annon@1.40 don't you forget kisumu is dead because of you primitive ways. Investors are leaving not in portions but in droves. Hatutawabembeleza anymore like small babies. this is Kenya not kisumu, this is kakamega not kisumu, this is eldoret not kisumu, this is nakuru not kisumu, this is mombasa pasi not kisumu. So if you are contemplating to sambaza your cousins en-route to nairobi for some cheap bargains please remind them:
tutawafundisha not to be primitive....THIS IS NOT KISUMU!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I was not talking about kisumu, and by the way nugu wewe even if Kisumu is burnt why are you so bothered. Si umeze wembe!
I wonder whether those demonstarting in Eldi are from kisumu, or those in Mombasa the clerics of yesterday??
Stop your ujinga, your Kind of reasoning is what is creating fundamentalism.
I dont even want to waste my breath on a ranting lunatic frustrated bcoz he cannot pickpocket pple on the streets on the pretence of hawking!!

Anonymous said...

annon1.55 you are as stupid and primitive as they come. Some of you are ignorant by choice or were born with a defect like that.
Kenya is moving on and the world has acknowledged. stop whining like little babies, its time we started speaking the same language other than wasting your effort trying to criicise me on ethnic grounds. common, be creative than that bana!.
check youself into Rehab before you situation gets worse.

Anonymous said...

anon@2.03 am Which language that i ts ok to steal and Kill others in cold blood?
Which world is moving on, are you in UG?? Mta wake up gonjeni tu!

mungiki said...

pay back time for our killed,raped and homeless brothers and sisters is near.Sit back and watch!!!

Anonymous said...

Kazi iendelee....Ni kazi gani inaendelea think dude..I worked half day yesterday, today i came in at 12 and i am leaving at 4...shops are closed in thika road the only thing i am hearing are gunshots....
Jambs pls stop dispalying ur ignorance in this blog...Kibaki can't vie again..He can only stand for two terms and there are over inspite of this stolen term where he was sworn in at sunset...And pls dont remind us of that black sunday it can only be compared to the day Osama bombed Nairobi.

If Kibaki is so sure of winning then why is he scared of a re-run as one blogger puts it even her 8 year old daughter knows that Kibaki stole the votes........
As dishonest as Kibaki...Period

Sweetie Banana said...

Jambs, from my interpretation of the constitution, Kibaki would still be eligible to run constitutionally unless the High court rules that his appointment was invalid and even so, until they hold fresh elections in his constituency he still has the powers and privileges of an MP and if he wins again, they cant convict him of rigging the elections until the seat of president is declared vacant. After this then they have to hold fresh elections anyway.

'(3) Where at any time the High Court determines under section 44 that the President has not been validly elected as a member of the National Assembly, or that the seat in the Assembly of the President has become vacant, the High Court shall declare the seat in the Assembly of the President to be vacant, and:-

(a) an election shall be commenced forthwith and shall be held in the constituency for which the President stood for election as a member of the Assembly; and

(b) if the President is not elected as a member of the Assembly at that election, he shall cease to hold office as President upon the expiration of the time allowed by law for the making of an application to the High Court under section 44 in respect of that election, or, where such an application is made by him or by the Attorney-General, upon the High Court determining that the person declared to be elected at that election has been validly elected:

Provided that:-

(i) if the High Court determines, in relation to an election held pursuant to paragraph (a) at which a person other than the President has been declared to be elected, that that person has not been validly elected, the High Court shall declare the seat to be vacant and a further election shall be held pursuant to paragraph (b) and this proviso shall apply accordingly;

(ii) notwithstanding that his seat in the Assembly has been declared to be vacant, the President shall be entitled to sit as a member of the Assembly and to exercise all the powers and privileges of an elected member of the Assembly until he ceases to hold office as President.

(3) Where the High Court determines under section 44 that the President has not been validly elected as President for any reason other than that he has not been validly elected as a member of the National Assembly or that the seat in the Assembly of the President has become vacant, he shall cease to hold office as President.

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