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Sunday, April 26, 2009

Jacob Zuma: Demagogue or Political Genius?


South Africans have demostrated their fidelity to ANC party no matter the political heat and fallout occasioned by Mbeki’s ouster. The near-saint Mandela confounded many by backing Zulu boy Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma and shunning disgruntled Mbeki boys who decamped to COPE.

So what future and lessons can we learn from Zuma’s rise to the presidency of Africa’s economic powerhouse? Well, Zuma is a product of Mbeki’s contempt to voters and obtuse elitism that is galore in our local leadership too. Kenya is a living testimony to how power has a way with revealing the true insidious side of an otherwise gentle persona. Only time will tell who the real Jay Z is.

Granted, Zuma may not be sophisticated enough to craft catchy rallying calls like Rainbow Nation by Mandela or abstract slogans like African Renaissance by Mbeki. But give it to the traditionalist Msholozi he has away of identifying with the ordinary South African whose post-Apartheid dream was auctioned by Mbeki’s elitist mien and intellectual bravado.

He may be athletic around the waist with five official wives to boot but emotionally amorous Zuma maybe just what South Africa needed to stop their breakneck speed to catch up with rest self-destruction African countries. But again you never know African leaders being what they are once securely enthroned to the seat of power.

Product of contempt and elitism
Mbeki though he had the last political laugh by outsmarting hither Mandela’s heir apparent Cyril Ramaphosa and underestimating Zuma as an unambitious demagogue for VP. Well what goes around comes around and Thambo must be suffering indigestion from the huge bite of humble pie.

Zuma’s lack of formal education may just be the sweetest blessing in disguise as team playing is a must in such circumstances. If anything personalized rule has been the bane in most African countries with real power unofficially delegated to cronies and gatekeepers.

Congratulations President Zuma, all eyes are singularly trained on you and the party is yours to spoil. You have no choice but to measure up or fail spectacularly by falling to the pedestrian lows of believing a cold shower protects against HIV infection. South Africans have given their verdict and the choice if yours. Either seize it or butcher their collective hopes.

46 comments:

UrXlnc said...

taabu welcome back

the most inspiring thing about that election was the orderly conduct and smooth operations of the electoral body.

rising up to and meeting expectations indeed as it should be and nothing to wow about or applaud but exactly what is expected of working institutions complete with merit/discipline mechanisms

fine example indeed.

Vikii said...

Congratulations to the new President. Congratulations to South Africans for conducting themselves as human beings.

About Mr. Zuma, well, I have always had that trepidatious attitude towards demagogues. Populism, especially the kind that is so discerningly empty, is not exactly criminal. The problem, however, as most of those populist politicians have shown upon assumption of office, is that it clouds reason. It makes people auction their brains allowing these "leaders" to screw them through and through.

I do not understand exactly what "elitism" means, but I do understand what demagoguery means. Examples are all over of how dangerous these sweet-sounding politicians reveal their true colours once they hack the prize; Mussolini, Hitler, Amin, Stalin, Moi etc. That does not necessarily mean Zuma is a reincarnation of these tyrants, but he really has to prove himself different.

On Thabo Mbeki, specifically how did he screw the country? I have not been able to get that one.

On President Mandela's support for Zuma, well, nobody doubts his committment to the ANC. The sensible thing to do, however, would have been to stay neutral. Zuma and the ANC were going to win anyway. Publicly endorsing a politician who has been accused of corruption and rape, a politician who believes that the best way to defend yourself against rape accusations is by propping a suggestion that it was consensual unprotected sex, never mind the 'victim' is a publicly declared HIV positive young woman in a country 1/3 of whose citizens are HIV positive, is surely not the best way to wind up your life. But then again, what do I know? He is after all the world's most admired person and he cannot ever go wrong. Maybe maybe not.

papa plus said...

I concur that the only thing worth writing about that election was that it was orderly and devoid of savagery Ala Kenya and the majority of black Africa.

As pertains to Zuma, the South Africans are about to learn a very painful lesson namely the offspring of a snake is a snake and more importantly, a leopard does not change its spots.

Taabu's Mistress said...

Hallo Mzee,

Its good to see you have finally swallowed your pride and decided to share the podium with me.
About Zuma, as much as i would love to join the praise choir, i fear that south africans have entered a dark phase of their history voluntarily. It remains to be seen how many months the new president will take before unleashing his true colours. Like someone has mentioned, a wolf in a sheeps skin still remains a wolf. But i applaud their election process, it was admirable.

Anonymous said...

Vikii for your infor, Mbeki was the most arrogant president in Africa and his exit is a good ridance. One of the reason is that He believed Aids was not as a result of HIV for soo long. By then since HIV never waits, it was ravanging across S Africa killing people by their thousands. By the time he came to accept it millions had the virus. Of course there are many others but i dont have time to explain the obvious.

Hope Zuma the idiot will be an inch better

Anonymous said...

We need a "Zuma " in Kenya to send Mwai "Kimbeki" home.The parallells between what has been happening in S.A and Kenya are very evident and we should borrow a leaf from them,also i urge Kenyans not despair because with faith miracles do happen!!

Anonymous said...

While it is admirable how peacefully the South Africans chose their destiny, choosing to guillotine their future is not very admirable. By the time the Zuma, the Shower Head, is done with them, they will be walking with a stoop like the other Africans they currently despise.

Anonymous said...

South Africa election process restored the pride of Africa. Not like in Kenya where Kibaki and Raila both stole votes and then Raila shouted loudest "his presidency" was stolen.

The two power-hungry hyanes then conspired to send the Kivuitu team home while deep inside themselves they know how they used ECK to top up illegal votes in their strongholds.

Both Kibaki and Raila are in office as President and PM illegally.

Zuma is just like Raila - a loud mouthed politician lacking any substance. Apart from doing sex-jigs at public rallies, Zuma lacks any substance to govern and SA will soon find the hole they have dug themselves in.

Raila is good a critising, whining like an old woman and hungry for power. He has all executive powers as PM but he keeps crying for carpets and toilets instead of using the powers at his disposal to deliver what he was yapping about during the 2007.

Since he only knows how to yap empty gabbage and criticise, he has failed to deliver despite being in a key Govt position. All he wants is more and more power.

Kenya will be a better place to live if if God wiped both Raila and Kibaki from the map of our beloved country.

ERIC said...

The anxiety over Jacob Zuma's election as president of South Africa obscures a significant milestone: for the first time in decades, a sub-Saharan nation has at its helm a champion of ordinary people.

African politics has long been the exclusive domain of aristocrats, soldiers and technocrats. Even with the spread of democratic elections, the region's leaders tend to come from the ranks of soldiers (Uganda, Rwanda, Zimbabwe), family dynasties (Togo, Kenya, etc), or university professors, lawyers, and economists (Ghana, Malawi, Liberia). Now South Africa, the region's economic engine and home to its most sophisticated universities, media, and corporations, has a former goat herder at its helm, a rare African leader with the common touch.

Zuma is legendary for his ability to connect with ordinary people. He's secure enough to dance and sing in public. He speaks the language of populism, raising hopes for the vast majority of South Africans who daily endure the misery of poor housing, schools, and health care.

In contrast to his two predecessors – the saintly Nelson Mandela, who emphasized racial healing, and the aristocratic Thabo Mbeki, who reassured financiers with his strong grasp of macroeconomics – Zuma recognises the pent-up demand for material improvement in the lives of his country's tens of millions of have-nots. "We have learned from the mistakes of the past 15 years, especially the manner of which we may have, to some degree, neglected the people's movement," he said in April, before his African National Congress swept to victory.

Until now, populism has been the missing note in African political culture. Zuma, who spent his youth herding cattle and only gained formal education while in the notorious Robben Island prison with Mandela, is refreshingly aware that Africa's biggest problem is its inequalities, not its global marginalisation. In Africa's wealthiest nation – but also the nation where wealth is most unequally shared – a bold populist now holds ultimate power over government policy.

Yet, while Zuma's populist appeal reflects South Africa's especially large differences in economic class, the threat of imposing higher taxes and other obligations on employers and the wealthy has raised fears at home and internationally. Moreover, Zuma has been called a chameleon, accused of telling his audiences what they want to hear.

Zuma's turbulent personal life – many wives and his embarrassing contention during a rape trial that he avoided HIV infection by taking a shower – has invited ridicule. Most seriously, doubts persist about his commitment to democracy, with critics arguing he's an old-style African "big man" ready to bully opponents and ravage the public coffers with his cronies.

Dismissing complaints, Zuma insists, "There's no cloud around me." His defenders, meanwhile, point to two benefits that he has already delivered: an end to Mbeki's ambivalent approach to fighting HIV/AIDS, the country's major public health threat, and a refreshing willingness to move against Zimbabwe's aged dictator, Robert Mugabe, whom Mbeki coddled out of a misguided sense of loyalty for his support during the struggle against apartheid.

In an Africa bereft of successful populist politicians, Zuma's role models may come from Latin America, where income inequality is also extreme and the trade union movement, as in South Africa, is strong and militant. With enormous pressure from ordinary people to deliver tangible gains, Zuma the populist will quickly face a major test: will he emulate Lula of Brazil, who has struck an admirable balance between good economic governance and redistribution of wealth to the poor? Or will he follow the path of Hugo Chávez, a popular autocrat who seems to prefer building a cult of personality over raising living standards for the poor?

The stakes for Africa are enormous. South Africa has the continent's largest economy and, until the global financial crisis, posted 10 years of steady economic growth. In an economic slowdown, the country's severe crime problem might only worsen; so might unemployment, which already tops 20% in the formal economy.

Zuma senses the urgency of the situation. He is, after all, 67 years old and likely to serve only a single term in office. "We can't waste time," he says.

Yet, according to the political economist Moeletsi Mbeki, at his core, "Zuma is a conservative." In this sense, Zuma represents yesterday's South Africa. He is part of the proud generation that defeated apartheid – and then peacefully engineered a transition to durable black-majority rule. Their achievement remains one of the greatest in recent history.

At the same time, Zuma's revolutionary generation still seems uneasy leading South Africa in a post-apartheid era that is now 15 years old. In a region that reveres the elderly, Zuma's attachment to his rural traditions must be matched by an equal openness to the appetites of the country's youth.

Three in 10 South Africans are younger than 15, meaning that they did not live a day under apartheid. Somehow Zuma must find a way to honour his own generation's commitment to racial justice and national liberation, while empowering the masses who daily suffer the sting of class differences and yearn for material gain.

Anonymous said...

Just another stupid African leader, slightly better than Kibaki.

Andruid said...

I have a strong feeling that them corruption charges are not quite finished with Zuma and the West will use tjhe backlash to feed their idea of SA:yet another failed African State

Anonymous said...

Lets hope Zuma does a good job, and not have crazy ideas like he did in that scandal.

I think that the South African constitution is strong enough to make sure he is more of a political genius than a demagogue. Lets give him a year or two, if he's misbehaving then we can complain.

Congrats to South Africans for conducting themselves in a dignified manner at the elections, not resorting to violence, theft and bullying.

Anonymous said...

Jacob Zuma: Demagogue or Political Genius?

Funny enough, I dont care. I just hope the xenophobic masses will calm down (and Kenyans there safer) and that abuses against women (eg rape) will not escalate.

Anonymous said...

The one thing that went right in South Africa is the conduct of the elections. Not the best in the world, but a model by African standards. As Kenya we need to hit the road and look into the laws they put in place to govern the electoral process, their weaknesses and see how we can adopt the same at home. The disbanding of the ECK and choosing another outfit will not take us far if we still rely on the same old electoral laws.

I hope Zuma delivers and does not goof....which is what many expect.

On an aside, do you guys know that Kenya has more educated people than SA? And Kenyans are scattered all over the world even in South Africa. I think with the right policies in place we are strategically placed to take off like a rocket. No wonder they say we are a sleeping tiger....meow!

Anonymous said...

Anyone who knows about Africa will attest that SA is on its self destruction path. Zuma should not even be elected to head a cattle dip. How Zuma will fair is exactly how Rao would have done had we done the mistake of placing him as the chief executive of Kenya. Rao = Zuma.The only problem is that Rao cannot do the swimming under women's pant coz of the mighty Aguambo mistress AKA IDA. In the house.

Anonymous said...

Why everytime a topic is posted here, some people must draw a parrallel to Raila or kibaki. Dont you have other ideas a part from that. Zuma will never be raila nor kibaki however the truth remains that south africans should have done better.
This is one person who will greatly disappoint and time will prove sceptics right. Leadership is about uprightness , exemplary character and service towards fellow men. Zuma is very far from these. South africans will soon learn that you reap what you sow.
Kanoo

chola said...

Like all African countries, the painful period has come, woe ant you S Africa, you all fell for the trap of demagogue. Once zuma will reveal his true colures once he hacks the prize, this guy is corrupt, thug, a jail bird, a rapist, he is the Mugabe, banda, kibaki, moi, mobutu
Papa you right, South Africans are about to learn a very painful lesson namely the offspring of a snake is a snake.
Yes they will cry for Mandela and Mbeki

Mwarang'ethe said...

We are told by the Good Book that, we should judge a tree by its fruits. With due respect, we would say, let us wait, the real Zuma will come out. We think that, the time for judging him, has not yet come. Let us not be quick in judging.

On the issue of corruption, we would want to ask, since the arms scandal involved French people, how many French people have been tried for this arms deal in France?

We have seen some saying that, Zuma might raise tax for the rich. Well, just this week, UK raised tax for the rich, if one is earning over £150, 000, the UK govt. will rob him of 50%.

Also, in the USA, Obama has let the tax breaks of the Bush era lapse. As a result, those earning more than $ 250, 000 will pay more. So, what is new about SA taxing its rich?

As regards the issue of cold shower and AIDS, we think that, this is a case of a statement taken out of context. Lets us state this way.

Let us assume that, you are a man, and it happens that, you have have sex with a prostitute. It also happens that, you used a condom.

However, in the process, the condom goes bust. In such a case, is it not that, the first thing a man would do is to shower? That does not amount to say that, such a man believes that, taking cold shower would prevent him from getting AIDS. It is just a natural and desperate reaction like that of a child trying to wipe sugar from his mouth to hide from the mum.

Thus, this nonsense that Zuma believed/s cold shower could/would prevent him from getting AIDS is just rubbish being repeated by everyone.

Anonymous said...

Wembe ni ule ule and what goes round comes round. I don't have to be a prophet of doom to see that Zuma will not complete his term. He will removed in the same way he removed Mbeki. He does not inspire at all. At least Mbeki tried to resolve matters in Zimbabwe. Can Zuma sit on a round table and talk sense? He does much better in the dance hall. SA is one of the G20 members. Should they hod a meeting, Zuma will be the black sheep (pun fully intended). Electing a semi-literate for a president of SA goes against the very principles Mandela toiled in jail for 27 years-to have all SAs enjoying quality education. I fear he will embarrass us as Amin did. Very soon SAs will be wishing F.W. de Klerk was their president (the way we are saying of Moi in Kenya). I sincerely pray that SA will still be in one piece by the time the world cup is held there in June next year!!

One Wife Man said...

Taabu aka Trouble,
wait,let me get this straight...
S.Africans turned up from dusk, waited for hours in long queues,stayed till dark,in large numbers, just to cast their ballots in a general election which was orderly and the outcome transparent and credible?

hmmm....just checking...wanted to compare what other countries are doing to what we did. bravo

Anonymous said...

who cares ?!
tell us instead what's happening at State House Nairobi or at Kabarnet Gardens or at Kabarak Farm......

Anonymous said...

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/22523

SPEECH by H.H. The Aga Khan at the Global Philanthropy Forum, Keynote, Washingtom - 2009-04-


The essential goal of global development has been to create and sustain effective nation states – coherent societies that are well governed, economically self-sustaining, equitable in treating their peoples, peaceful amongst themselves, and sensitive to their impact on planetary sustainability.

This is a complex objective, a moving target, and a humbling challenge. Sadly, the response in the places I know best has often been “one step forward and two steps back.“ Today, some forty percent of UN member nations are categorized as “failed democracies” – unable to meet popular aspirations for a better quality of life. The recent global economic crisis – along with the world food crisis – has sharply accentuated these problems.

But why have our efforts to change that picture over five decades not borne greater fruit? Measured against history, where have things gone wrong? Given the progress we have made in so many fields, why have we been so relatively ineffective in sharing that progress more equitably, and in making it more permanent?

My response centers on one principal observation: I believe the industrialized world has often expected developing societies to behave as if they were similar to the established nation states of the West, forgetting the centuries, and the processes which molded the Western democracies. Forgotten, for one thing, is the fact that economic development in Western nations was accompanied by massive urbanization. Yet today, in the countries of Asia and Africa where we work, over 70 percent of the population is rural. If you compare the two situations, they are one and a half to two and half centuries apart. Similarly, the profound diversity of these impoverished societies, infinitely greater than that among nascent European nation states, is too often unrecognized, or under-estimated, or misunderstood. Ethnic, religious, social, regional, economic, linguistic and political diversities are like a kaleidoscope that history shakes every day.

One symptom of this problem has been the high failure rate of constitutional structures in many developing countries, often because minority groups – who often make up the bulk of the population – fear they will be marginalized by any centralized authority. But did today’s developed countries not face similar challenges as they progressed toward nationhood?....

I hope and trust that we will have many opportunities to renew and extend our sense of partnership as we work toward building strong and healthy nation states around our globe

If we are to succeed we will need, first, to readjust our orientation by focusing on the immense size and diversity of rural populations whether they are in peri-urban or rural environments. For no-one can dispute, I think, that a large number of the world’s recent problems have been born in the countrysides of the poorest continents

Anonymous said...

ODM has no legal merit for Raila to take over top Parliament job
http://www.eastandard.net/InsidePage.php?id=1144012592&cid=4&ttl=ODM%20has%20no%20legal%20merit%20for%20Raila%20to%20take%20over%20top%20Parliament%20job

papa plus said...

Eric,

Your prosthesis is dangerous I think. There is nothing wrong with a goat herder running a country - as long as the country is of goats! How do you expect a goat herder to run Africa's largest economy? How do you expect someone sued for corruption to be a champion of ethics in government?

This whole argument of populist notions is very dangerous. What you fail to understand is that we are in a game that is not tailored to African populist ideas.

My biggest issue with Zuma is that he is corrupt. And believe me a lot of people who gave him money are looking to reap their investments.

5th Estate said...

BY THE BALLS - Kenyans held Hostage

Shenanigans of home guards and murderers running amok.


" When Uganda gained independence in 1962 and Kenya in 1963, each country took possession of ‘instruments’, documents and maps pertaining to East Africa and the settlement reached with the British Government delineating in detail, by degrees and minutes, each country’s borders. To meet the criteria for sovereignty copies of these documents were lodged with the UN in New York and in London. They remain there to this day, in the case of Kenya, residing in the National Archives and at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. If placed side-by-side the maps held in Nairobi and Kampala and Arusha would come together like two parts of a jigsaw to provide a complete picture, a definitive chart setting out each country’s territory, and the position of Migingo Island will be beyond dispute.

A simple search of the relevant archives in Nairobi, Kampala and London, and a similar search at the UN headquarters in New York and African Union in Addis Ababa, should resolve the matter " - By Nicholas Biwott The Standard Newspaper

IMPUNITY - NA BADO.... cont`d – Casualty level rises

”One of Kenya’s most respected law scholars, Prof Hastings Winston Opinya Okoth-Ogendo, is dead. Prof Ogendo, a former vice-chairman of the Constitution of Kenya Review Commission, died on Friday night in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where he had gone on an assignment for the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa.

Prof Ogendo, a former vice-chairman of the Constitution of Kenya Review Commission, died on Friday night in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, where he had gone on an assignment for the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa”

“It’s a big shock to us. He is indeed irreplaceable. His expertise in land law was unrivalled on the continent. He has advised many governments on these issues. We shall miss him,” - Dr Ben Sihanya, the dean of University of Nairobi Law School - Daily Nation.

MIGINGO – Ring a bell?

Ask yourself would this have happened without the pack between tribal chiefs of the two countries facilitating each others illegal hold on power. Since the Libyans have already been paid, Museveni also wants his cut as the facilitator. The Governments attitude towards the whole episode speaks volumes. Nobody anticipated the world economic downturn and the consequences it would take. These are the first signs of deals gone badly. Remember somebody in Government said -”THE GOVERNMENT IS BROKE”

The payment for Migingo survey is just another scheme to raise funds for corrupting members of parliament and disinformation in MSM. The facts are on paper, we do not need to reinvent the wheel so to speak. Could the MSM publish those documents in toto? Yes it could but it does not want? Remember the rattlesnake saga – Mercenaries brought in to terrorize citizens by the same government supposed to protect citizens - Those appointed to execute that have not be held responsible – maybe the constitution has a hidden clause where the government can terrorize its citizens.
Have you asked yourself why there has not been any real investigative journalism in the MSM on how assassins are used to silence dissent this is not new - these things have been going on since independence. What we have in Kenya is not law and order, its disorder through commissions whose findings even by partisan appointments are kept secret - that’s how obvious is the facts are. People like the commissioner of police are just window dressing, spin doctors on Government payroll - ask Gava spokesman what he does sitting in on PNU meetings.

Assassinations are camouflaged as car jacking to hoodwink the public - Paul Muite should know. Of coerce the people responsible will not say kweli umetishika Leo, they will send their PR folks to shout in the MSN that he should report to the cops. Jamani!!!! A careful check of the trail of car jacking deaths will quite easily expose the underlying pattern and motives.

Now we are talking about the authority of the Head of State - What Authority? That Authority was lost long time ago. The people verdict is a gone conclusion. YOU ARE NOT EXERCING ANY AUTHORITY ON OUR BEHALF- Seek fresh authority. Your mandate ended in the first 100 days you PROMISED to deliver a new constitution. What you actually meant is that we will dismantle the constitution in 1000 days in preparation of a civil war.
You have managed to dismantle the institutions of government quite well through your cronies, enough is enough?

DO PROMISES MEAN ANYTHING – How can we now believe that your appointments are for the common good? Do you hold anybody under you accountable when you yourself cannot keep your promises? No more promises.


”When a ruler surrenders instruments of State to hangers on, tragedy is never far”

”Make no mistake. The country is in a free fall. The electoral commission collapsed. The Judiciary is tottering on the brink of collapse. The Cabinet has collapsed. At its very best; it is a Tower of Babel. The presidency is ailing and crumbling. The only institution that can save Kenya is Parliament. But Parliament is ailing and facing imminent paralysis. For all its avarice and allied weaknesses, the Tenth Parliament must not be allowed to collapse. A presidency in atrophy requires other organs of State must take leadership. It is on the shoulders of the Speaker Kenneth Marende that the load of saving Kenya rests”- Barack Muluku - The Standard.

The pride of a nation rests on its people. Responsible authority spares no resources to defend the rights of it citizens; they send whole armies and soldiers thousand of miles to defend a single citizen in alien territory. When you cannot defend the right of your own citizens in your own country and to make matters worse allow another country to fly their flag and charge your own citizens taxes in your own country.
YOU HAVE NOT ONLY LOST THE RIGHT TO GOVERN BUT ALSO LOST THE RESPECT AND AUTHORITY TO APPOINT ANYBODY TO GOVERN THAT SAME TERRITORY OR COUNTRY ON YOUR BEHALF.

You swore to protect and defend citizens and territory under the same constitution you are yapping about that gives you power to appoint sycophants. Either you implement it fully or not, or maybe your interpretation is that since you took the oath of office in the dark you can cut and paste the sections that are relevant to your club and wanainchi ”wakitaka kupigana wacha wapigane "

Its seems the constitution is just a piece of paper to justify actions some people want to take and the ones to ignore – we have also made choices not based on selfish needs but on the basis of the common good and the verdict is that you have no authority despite whatever you and your club mates say – we have taken it back. Seek new authority if you want to continue “tumekataa katakata “

Either you are with the people or against them. MPs should be informed in no uncertain terms and they should will be forced to move and live where their loyalties lie. They will be forced to really answer the question wher does their loyality lie – with the people or the goons who line their pockets.

Commander-in-chief or COMMANDER-IN-THIEF – ponder on that!

Anonymous said...

Those who attended the State House meeting with the President which started at 10 am and lasted more than four hours agreed that the decision to appoint Mr Musyoka would not be rescinded. - Sunday Nation

The meeting was attended by
Mr Musyoka - Kamba - Gatekeeper / smokescreen
George Saitoti - Kikuyu
Kenyatta - Kikuyu
Kilonzo - Kamba
Kiraitu Murungi - Kikuyu
Noah Wekesa - Lost/Ruberstamp
George Thuo - Kikuyu
Francis Muthaura - Kikuyu- What is he doing making decisions in a political meeting. Public service should be divorced from politics

Government spokesman - Kamba must have been in another room waiting for his propaganda briefing / matching orders.

Since when are decisions in a supposedly national party represented by two tribes. I am sure Noah Wekesa was not informed in advance , in any case he was out numbered by the Ngorokos. He would not dare ask his constituents what they think about all this. You saw him bactracking when outside when he stated that the job is not necessarily Kaloozers. Which is which ? " Mr Musyoka would not be rescinded " as they decided in the meeting or " its not neccessarily his " when you are outside SH. Where you sleeping in the meeting ?

Keep MPs to task to clarify thier decisions and statements which prpoagate confusion. They are supposed to make decisions on our behalf NOT against us. How absurd ! If Noah Wekesa wants to be used let it be but he should move his family and relatives to Othaya or Gatundu where his loyalities lie. We are tired of being lied to

Anonymous said...

Can somebody tell me how many tribes are there in Kenya. It seems that meeting in SH was composed as usual of the " hard working ones " - Seems there is lack of brainpower or interlect in the other tribes . They have nothing to inform the Gava which they should be part of. They have no authority , they are not part of the constitution ;-) I would put it down to trust, they are not trusted becouse they refuse to be used.

" kenya ina wenyewe " - aiiiiiiiiiiiii!

Anonymous said...

Kwani you wanted 42 people at state house to make decisions? Bure kabisa! Kwani how many tribes would have been in ODM meeting? Probably two: Luo and Kalenjin ...

kanoo said...

Kenya is the only country where over 29 villagers are killed by an illegal gang and neither the minister of National Security nor the head of the police nor the Intelligence chief resigns leave alone asking for a simple pardon.
Surely we have a long way to be called a functioning state. Do we really know what responsibility means?. What do you call a govt. that cannot even gaurantee security to its own citizens. PRIMITIVE
kanoo

Anonymous said...

In an ODM meeting, the leading luminaries will be Balala (Coast), Mudavadi (Western), Ruto (RV), Raila (Nyanza), Nyaga (Central), Ngilu (Ukambani). Those are just the leading luminaries, if you are to include all other members that might be there you'll discover its not just a Kalenjin/Luo affair.

Vikii said...

Nyagah does not come from Central, you moron. He comes from Eastern and he suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Rev. Mutava Musyimi. Ngilu does not represent any kamba interests in that ODM party coz there aint any to be represented there. She is a smart lady who was very careful not to run on that party's ticket and lose badly. She ran on NARC and tried as hard as possible to stifle any association with that movement of death while at Kitui. She may have some little myopic courage to expose herself now because she surely thinks three years is a long time. 2012 will be with us so soon, we wont believe it. I hope she doesn't change her message when that time comes.

Anonymous said...

The reason why the GSU was called in is becouse law and order has collapsed in Kirinyaga and Nyeri. Which self respecting leader demands authority for more appointments while his current crop of appointees have failed to the point of the country imploding - not once, not twice have they failed in thier responsibility of proctecting citizens without any consequences. Human right activists , Kirinyaga , Nyeri , Migingo , pokot , Mt Elgon - you name it.

Instead of holding these nincompoops to account he still wants to add more " mzee pembes " to sensitive postions of Gava leadership.

Authority and responsibility is one and the same thing, they go hand in hand - Surely competence should count for something with regard to the security of this Nation. We have not had a statement from the police boss why it was necessary to replace the police with the GSU - failure ?

The corresponding action for Hire is to FIRE if someone needs reminding. People are dying, what more do you need to hold people to account.

Fathers , Mothers , Boys have disappered or been hacked to deaath - What more do you need to act ??????

The days of having authority without responsibility ended at Kilanguni. I am stating to believe that duly elected is senile - that is the only explanation I can come up with - The word FIRE does not exist in his diminishing metal capacity , incidentally authority is still there, but for how long i wonder.

Ngómbe kabisa !

Anonymous said...

Kenya PM suggests snap polls


BY MICHAEL KARANJA and CATHERINE KARONG'O
Update 57 minutes ago ( Capital FM)

NAIROBI, Kenya, Apr 26 - Prime Minister Raila Odinga has said that Kenya should go to the polls if partners in the grand coalition government fail to honour the implementation of provisions in the National Accord.

While addressing a rally in Kibera on Sunday the premier insisted that the accord vested the Premier’s office with the authority to supervise and coordinate government affairs from within and without the precincts of Parliament.

He ruled that his responsibilities in the August house were clearly spelt out in the document.

“I cannot exercise the role of the Prime Minister when I am outside parliament while a different person assumes my responsibilities in the August house. I’m not an appointee of the president but an equal partner in the coalition,” he stressed.

The PM dismissed those opposed to his quest for the chairmanship of the House Business Committee (HBC) saying the position was not negotiable, as it squarely belonged to the leader of the party with the majority seats in parliament.

“Our role in the coalition must be respected because we ceded more grounds than we expected for the sake of peace but our partners have pushed us to our limits. If they honour the national accord, ODM is ready for fresh polls.”

His sentiments were echoed by Higher Education Minister Sally Kosgei who argued that those opposed to the appointment were disregarding the national accord, which supercedes the constitution for the time the coalition government exists.

“Those from the other side base their arguments on the constitution which took a back seat when the accord was signed. By brining up baseless arguments all the time in Parliament they are holding this country at ransom,” she said.

Last Thursday, Speaker of the National Assembly Kenneth Marende deferred his ruling on the matter of HBC Chairman to Tuesday, to pave way for negotiations among coalition partners whose differences seem to widen by the day.

Also speaking on Sunday, Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka, whom the President has appointed as Leader of Government Business, said the Kenyan constitution is clear on the issue of Presidential appointments and there is no reason for the country to be subjected to unnecessary debate.

Mr Musyoka said that Presidential appointments under the established legal framework cannot be contested.

The VP made the remarks at Kirenga Primary School grounds in Lari division, during the Installation of Bishop Geoffrey Gichure and his Deputy, Rev John Kingori of the African Inland Church.

“It is important for parliament to establish the House Business Committee to enable it start transacting on crucial issues including the reforms under Agenda Item 4 of the National Accord,” he stressed.

Earlier, Members of the Party of National Unity (PNU) remained adamant that VP Musyoka is the Leader of Government Business.

Led by affiliate Democratic Party chairman Wilfred Machage, the PNU members said on Sunday that the issue was being politicised and cited section 30 of the constitution which they said recognised the Head of State as the Leader of Government Business.

“And because the President ordinarily does not always attend Parliament sessions all the time, he delegates this portfolio to a Minister of his choice,” the former Bomachoge legislator stated.

“That has been the law and indeed the tradition for 45 years and was not catered for by the national accord as we know it,” he added.

The more than 20 members of PNU, who included Cabinet Ministers Naomi Shaaban and Moses Wetangula with legislators Johnson Muthama and Bifwoli Wakoli, also said that it was not the prerogative of the National Assembly Speaker to interpret the constitution on the matter.

Meanwhile the National Council of Community Based Organisations (CBOs) termed the issue petty to paralysis parliament business.

“Mr President it is important that Parliament starts working immediately or dissolve it so that we can go for snap elections. Kenyans are tired of these types of power games that cannot change this country,” said the CBO President Tom Aosa.

ODM is rooting for the PM to be named the Leader of Government Business, while the President has maintained that he has appointed the VP to that post and termed the matter closed.

The acrimony has paralysed parliamentary sessions.

Anonymous said...

Vikii says that Nyagah does not come from Central, He comes from Eastern and suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Rev. Mutava Musyimi.

Well I would like to remind you also that Kalonzo also comes from eastern, and suffered crushing defeat in the presidential polls 8%


Mothers Against Tribalism

Anonymous said...

Only significant thing in these sets of responses is the sad passing on of Prof. Okoth-Ogendo. I hope Kenyans take a moment to reflect upon and honor the acheivements of this great man.

Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS!

Our complete investigations can now reveal that Chris is gay, and that he offers ass to any 'important' person for favours. Since most prominent persons are man, he has been bending over to then We have pics of him with DJ CK which we will publish later in the net. Guys we need to turn this looser into a man!

Anonymous said...

Madmen running amok .....elephantaisis of the brain. Jamani !!

Anonymous said...

Nyundo juuuuuuuu. oyeeeeee. Nyundo juuuuuuuu... oyeeeeeee ;-)

Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS!

Our complete investigations can now reveal that Chris is gay, and that he offers ass to any 'important' person for favours. Since most prominent persons are men, he has been bending over to them. We have pics of him with DJ CK which we will publish later in the net. Guys we need to turn this looser into a man!

Anonymous said...

Am suprised at this about Chris. Ave always respected him as a person despite stupid posts on this blog. This is a new low Chris. I offer you a ride through Koinange, maybe it will help

Anonymous said...

Vikii, if the anon abt Chris is true....si basi you offer Chris some pussy bana. I know he has annoyed you in the past with his idiotic comments but during disaster we all come together to help the afflicted and less fortunate

Anonymous said...

Maybe Taabus mistress can also assist this deprived kenyan called Chris. We need to restore decency in this blog and country

Anonymous said...

So what if Chris is Gay, it is acceptable way of life these days. But its good to have one partner, remain faithful and open about it. With the new constitutional review, this will be allowed and 'female' gays would even go for 3 months maternity

Anonymous said...

You guys are worse than Somali Pirates!!,you "hijack" this post and turn it into a a "whose smarter now between Raila and Kibaki,that's why we will never progress !!cant we learn from what has happened in South Africa!!

Anonymous said...

yes but kenya has been independent for more years than south africa

Anonymous said...

What can SA teach us? How to have sex with a HIV+ without a condom then take a shower? The only reason SA is advanced is because of the boers who colonised them for many years otherwise they are more primitive than any other african in the world!

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