My apologies to Kumekucha readers who have been waiting all day for this post. I have been chasing all day, concrete information on this worrying Mungiki violence that entered its’ second day in many parts of
The Rift Valley Railways has earlier today suspended commuter train services after two of their trains were derailed yesterday. All in all 3 people were killed on this second day of violence. One was a watchman in Ngara who tried to run away when the Mungiki struck a car garage and burnt several cars.
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The police are being very secretive, but insider sources have just told Kumekucha that “things have gotten worse tonight” no further details could be given.
There is something here very strange unfolding in Kenyan politics before our very eyes.
The first and extremely worrying thing about both yesterday’s and today’s Mungiki attacks countrywide is simply this. It did not take 24 hours for the whole sick operation to be planned. The truth is that it must have taken days and most likely weeks to plan it. This leads us to the second important clue, the timing which is very important in unraveling the whole mystery. The attacks started the day after the grand coalition cabinet was announced. Meaning that the whole thing was planned and organized and then the whole countrywide Mungiki organization waited for the order to move. It seems they got it on Sunday night.
This in itself is extremely scary. More so because it is rather obvious that the estimated 1.5 million youths countrywide are taking instructions from somebody with vested interests in Kenyan politics as sensitive and deadly as it is at the moment. (You can find out more about the identity of that person and their motives from my raw notes this week.)
In an exclusive interview on Jeff Koinange’s K24 TV station yesterday a spokesperson for Mungiki interviewed deep in a secret location that seems to be a hideout of sorts said that the group intends “to keep the fire burning” until justice is done. He also said that the group has 1.5 million registered members countrywide. That is without cpounting the sympathizers.
The spokesman who was not wearing a mask and identified himself as Njunguna Gitau Njunguna also said that Maina Njenga’s wife would not be buried until the husband is released to attend the funeral “even if it takes 5 years” for this to happen.
Njuguna denied that the group he was representing, the Kenya National Youth Alliance had anything to do with the proscribed Mungiki. That is because this Njuguna fellow is no fool—the Mungiki group is proscribed which means it is illegal even to associate with it. However it is quite clear that Mungiki has now mutated into the Kenya National Youth Alliance. Njunguna said that the organization he represented was a registered political party and that Mungiki was finished by extra-judicial killings ordered by former internal security minister John Michuki.
Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it seems the much talked about second wave of violence has started, albeit in a very different manner from what most people expected. This time what is being used are clever guerilla tactics where the Mungiki emerge (usually in the early hours of the morning) cause chaos and then vanish into thin air, leaving police to harass and arrest mostly the victims rather than the perpetrators.
The bottom line is that violence seems to have taken over as the most powerful political tool in the country and it would seem that this Mungiki uprising is aimed at reversing all the gains that may have been made by ODM after the widespread violence of early this year mainly in vast, mostly fertile Rift Valley.
The Mungiki attacks are not up hazard, but well planned, intricately executed and carefully targeted. The truth is that the public transport system in
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Sam I have been actually trying to think outside the box to see what is driving the current wave of mungiki unrest. Who has a motive on the current chaos? Kibaki No, Raila No, Ruto No, Uhuru Yes..the idoit is scare stiff of land issues, Michuki No, Competing forces within Mungiki yes..Saitoti Yes. Saitoti has a motive of spilling the beans to ensure uhuru comes down with this baby called mungiki. Are we seeing a central province succession battle fought around Mungiki?....the down side of this strategy is that it has support of a minority in the population. I am keenly watching if there will be any political casualties..
ReplyDeleteClearly, rather than have domestic issues become national concerns, Lesotho is the solution. Unto each, their own.
ReplyDeleteThis is ridiculous. Where are these so-called leaders (Raila and Kibaki) to give a statement and tell Kenyans exactly what it is they plan to do to put an end to this menace? Will Kenyans never experience peace again?
ReplyDeleteDoesn't Kibaki hold the instruments of state (Read-C in C) to crush this oppressive, ruthless gang? Where does RAO come into this? This PANUAs never cease to amaze me. As HEAD OF STATE has he even set foot at the camps to reassure the IDP's? What a waste for a this President of the Republic of GEMA.
ReplyDeleteInstead of Jeff Koinange making interviews in the same style as before when working for CNN (under the embrella 'I need to get back my lost fame') and therefore neglecting that the man he is talking to may have just minutes before killed people, JK should have informed the Kenyan Police to go and catch this man. Instead he is presenting him on K24 as a hero - just as he did before with the MEND terrorists in Nigeria. Or maybe also this socalled Mungiki was fake and only served to get JK back into the limelight of false fame? This interview thing creates too many questions and no answers except one: JK has gone back to do business in his old style: without any scrupels telling fake stories.
ReplyDeleteK24 and Jeff Koinange should be ashamed to give this Mungiki group such an importance and even give them the possibility to appear on TV. Maybe it is true what some people say that K24 is a Kikuyu channel and the Mungiki are backed up by certain people interested to destabilize this Government. All coincident that especially a man with the reputation of selling his soul to make headlines like Jeff Koinange got the appointment with this Mungiki spokesman? I don't think so. On the contrary, I am sure that also this interview was very well planned quite in advance. It's a shame that Jeff Koinange does not seem to have learned anything from his past errors. How low can one man go? Time will tell.
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ReplyDeleteThis government does not need any help to destabilize, its doing that very well of its own accord.
The foundation of impunity has been laid and the THIEF IN CHIEF has no moral ground to call any fraud bluff. The electoral fraud was one big glitch that will mutate and haunt Kenya for years to come. Pedestrian comparison equates Mungiki's murders to protest over election theft, well you cannot fill a vacuum separating the ears with anything.
ReplyDeleteKenyans are being ropped in Kibaki succession. Mungiki have a DPM for patron and Njenga Karume has plenty of time of his time to do the groundwork. Whatever it is Kenya will never be the same again and no amount of violence will make Kenyans look back. A closer look traces source of Kenyan probelems to one section of the country. But not for long.
it is time for central Lesotho- see without all this kikuyu's all over the place other tribes can take care of their own provinces - masai should take up Nairobi and rubbish the mungiki out to central- look at Muranga??? the other towns in central that have been shut down by mungiki??? who are they helping by doing that?? their own tribe or?? it is the central province problem because they are the same people who festered and encouraged them to grow popular(didn't I see Wangari Mathai in on of the youtube VIDEO'S???encouraging them to go back to routes?? so i think this is a central province and they should be banished from all other provinces- let the central province deal with their problems - they seemt o be saying they do not have equal representation in jobs, land e.t.c- so Uhuru, Wangare Maathai, michuki, karume e.t.c and kibaki should give then their land back!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Y6ZwFUr5E
Where is their headquarters?? and wasn't Wangare Maathai at the opening of the mungiki Thai shrine in Muranga??is it about youth - no jobs nothing while the see the like of other elite kikuyu's getting richer and richer but my question remains why do they support UHURU KENYATTA?? when his father is the one who crabbed all the land from the veterans and give it to his cronies? so why can't they ask UHURU for some of that land?? I still do not understand why they support him when he gives nothing back but encourage them to police bass-stops and estates where they are killed every time?? where was he when michuki ordered for their executions??? where was UHURU to help them?? I just don't get it!!!!
ReplyDeletewhen you look at them this are very young people being executed !!dying very young because of being ill advised and are being used by Central province politicians!! when the going is good they are even given police uniforms to wear to commit crimes and when they are no more of use- then they are executed- what a sad life!!
If this was planned then it is a kikuyu affair- kenyans are sick and tired of this shiate- ALL the politicians from central province should be called upon to explain what their take is in all this- first nobody encourages unlawfulness - and yet again why should they send police to execute people in cold blood- we saw that after the elections, and why are kenyans not worried? tomorrow politician will use the same police to shed blood in your own neighborhoods- so just like the land issues and the fights among tribes in right valley- this is a kikiyu problem- if you go back and read the leaf-let posted on here the other day- the mungiki's are actually blaming the kikuyu politicians for doing wrong by them- so this is a central province problem and all the politicians from central province should get together and sort this youths- they have used them in good times to do their dirty jobs and now they have to listen to their grievances and sort them out-not sent police to execute them!!
ReplyDeleteif i should ask?? weren't they just the other day recruiting them in the police force?? when some police offers objected?? the same people from central province had taken a bunch of mungiki's to be recruited in the police force in a hurry?? what was their long term plan by doing that??? just think kenyans !!!think!! this are very dangerous politicians we are dealing with and all has to be exposed or they should be pushed to Lesotho!!
I agree all central members of parliament should be called in for questioning!!why are they quiet?? except for koigi wamwere who else has talked?? about the mungiki ati now the police after killing the wife in the same manner the mungiki does(they claim it is a rival mungiki sect and that madam refused on money) such utter bull-shit and you want to say every mungiki person was against her?? that is why the whole community i hear was mobilized to such for her immediately she went missing and now we hear ati even she was not in charge of the money?? so where did kariethi and Ali get their police story from?? I think they were tricked and were now caught in their own lies!!
ReplyDeleteI second you on that anon 8:18 all CENTRAL MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT SHOULD BE QUESTIONED ON THEIR MUNGIKI CONNECTIONS AND WHY THE MUNGIKI'S ARE ANNOYED WITH THEM??? WHAT EXACTLY DO THEY OWE THE MUNGIKI'S AND WHAT DID THEY USE THEM FOR DURING AND AFTER ELECTIONS- IT DOES BOIL DOWN TO MORE THAN THAT THOUGH?? WHY DID MICHUKI EXECUTE THEM LAST YEAR INSTEAD OF TAKING THEM THROUGH THE NORMAL COURT AND JAIL PROCESS LIKE THEIR LEADER?? WHY KILL THE FOOT SOLDIERS AND SPARE THEIR LEADER?? THIS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND TOO!!
ReplyDeleteAND WHERE EXACTLY IS UHURU'S STAND IN ALL THIS- IF THIS ARE HIS FOOT SOLDIERS??? WHY IS HE LETTING THEM BE EXECUTED BY THE LIKES OF MICHUKI?? OR IS THIS JUST POLITICS ONE BEHAVES AS THE BAD COP AND THE OTHER THE GOOD COP- A TWOSOME TEAM BETWEEN UHURU AND MICHUKI- AND THE POOR FELLOWS ARE USED BU THE GOOD COP(WHILE THE BAD COP IS AWARE LIKE DURING ELECTIONS) THEN THE BAD COP GOES AND SLAUGHTERS THEM SO THAT THE SECRETS OF THEIR CRIMES IS KEPT IN HOUSE AND THE GOOD COP BEING UHURU TELLS THE MUNGIKI'S THAT ON NO IT IS NOT ME MUCHIKI IS DOING IT BUT I WILL TRY TO TALK TO HIM TO STOP EXECUTING YOU ONLY IF YOU GO TO NAIVASHA AND SLAUGHTER THOSE KIHII'S AND OTHER TRIBES!!! SO UNLESS SOMEONE EXPLAINS THIS RELATIONSHIP I WILL STAY PUT WITH MINE!! SINCE IT AIN'T PANNING OUT AT ALL THIS MUNGIKI MAYHEM
You fools..as you killed..so you shall be killed too
ReplyDeleteSomeone said it earlier this year...si wajaluo tu na wakale wana mapanga na they dont have monopoly over violence.
Kenya is fucked...if you can get a visa out..just get it now
I concur with those saying that the silence from the leaders is telling. All central Kenya MPs should be considered suspects. At least we know Kabando wa Kabando is a major suspect. Has he been grilled yet? If Uhuru is also suspected, has he been grilled? And all the other old geezers who seem to be holding the country by the balls?
ReplyDeleteThe K24 story, we don't get the signal from Mombasa but I sure saw an interview with the Mungiki on KTN. The Mungiki leader interviewed said enough was enough and they had decided to act on what he called oppression. They even aired some sort of ceremony - lots of smoke and snuffing. KTN did not call the police either. Question. Kwani how was the K24 version? Was it more candid?
There must be a reason why they have chosen K24 - a pure Kikuyu Station - and especially Jeff Koinange - a member of the most notorious Kikuyu-clan (his grandfather Senior Chief Koinange had been implicated for having killed Chief Waruhiu and his uncle Mbiyu Koinange was known to have been behind the killing of Tom Mboya and Kariuki. His first cousin Dr. Wilfred Koinange is involved in the Goldenberg case a.o.). And Jeff is following in their footsteps which he already demonstrated in the past. It is therefore obvious why the Mungiki have chosen him to talk to: they trust him because he is one of them and being that he wants to go into politics himself, he has already been assured of their assistance in the future.
ReplyDeleteAtleast for the first time the kumekuchers are in concurrence about something or at the very least we are looking at it from one end.
ReplyDeleteIts also suprising and noteworthy that the numskull from Nevada who calls himself the Earl of i dont know where is not yet made his stand known about all this.
Ladies and gentlemen,ours is a quagmire.Come to think of it RAO shouldnt have gotten into this PM shiznit.Why do i say this?He was virtually the only voice that we had that could call Kibaki into order.Again i miss Michuki at Internal security.This guy that ECK missed to help them tally,who couldn't even help Tally at his own constituency is yet to make a Ministerial statement.Already he is too busy i dont know with what,yesterday he wasn't at parliament to answer Hon Katuku and the man of looks Hon Musyoka promised to prod him to make a statement today.
If RAO with his powerful intelligence powerhouse could make a statement now it might plunge us deeper into the deluge and i dont think we wanna go that way.Which is why i state ours is a think Quagmire,we are actually like crocodiles hibernetting during summer in mud.Someone i think either Sam or Phil that if two thieves know each other they fear each other and this is not to mean RAO has stolen but he knows much but he cant help us now because of his current position.
According to me KIBAKI is a Dweeb and somewhere close to senile.The only thing he ever did straight mindedly and which was foolish after all was when he declared during the campaigns that there was no need For MATATU uniforms.Clearly there had to be a valid reason for Mungiki to start off the war.Like in Russia Putin could order the killing of a Prominent person and blame it on the other to settle the scores.My take is the Killing of Virginia was an in thing that was pulled so as to create or rather make valid the rubbish we are seeing but hey......................... take a moment,who is Mungiki mainly hurting?????????My take is as good as yours.
Something still bothers my small brains,why does a single community as a whole keep falling into one mistake after another?I have made mistakes before but those i relate and work with from the same community always dive into and out of mistakes every now often with pride and beligerence in the same line.
Someone help Kenya.
Mungiki are trying to use their political wing to attract attention to the international community. On NTV this morning, their executive coordinator called in and made serious demands on Live TV. (Don't Kenyan authorities know how to trace calls and make arrests as the call is stalled?)Anyway, these people want to attract attention worldwide in the realms of Hezbollah and LRA. But their disadvantage is, not until they infiltrate the Army and create a fully armed wing, the rest of Kenya will deal with them in due time. Did anyone catch in the press the 4 Mungiki lynched in Eldoret by locals? What ever happened to community policing?
ReplyDeleteYeah...as long as they are messing with their own kin, and operating within the confines of Nai and its environs...who cares much? Dare they encroach into “foreign” territory….wata adhibiwa vilivyo na wakenya .
SLDF. Did you guys see how the Army tortured the ragtag militia and locals seen to hide them? That’s what we need for Mungiki. Fight fire with Gunships and Missiles.
And the way, Mungiki risk making other communities start evicting kikuyu from their areas. No body would want to be neighbors with arrogance, murder and impunity.
Naivasha and nakuru were just the starter so do not shed to many tears for the few that perished there because their numbers will be insignificant when this is finally over.
ReplyDeleteAnd for those that do not believe nairobi has its owners you have been shown who controls the city if you do not like it move !!
NEVER ALLOW MUNGIKI TO HIDE IN WESTERN KENYA.
ReplyDeleteTHEY HAVE REACHED ELDORET. TAKE CARE KAKAMEGA, KERICHO, KISUMU, HOMABAY.
COAST TAKE CARE TOO. SEND THEM BACK TO CENTRAL. THAT'S WHERE THEY BELONG.
LET THEM KILL THEIR LEADERS AND KINSMEN IN OTHAYA, KERUGOYA, NYERI, MURANGA, KIAMBU
"He needs a long spoon who sups with the devil."
ReplyDeleteThis is the best time for kenyans to unite .We need to use our peace dividend born out of the coalition government to deal with Mungiki.
Mungiki should be seen as a kenyan problem and not only a Kikuyu problem. We are even getting calls for people to negotiate with them !!!! Are they mad or have they also partaken in mungiki snuff ?
Fear permeates everything with the mere mention of Mungiki.That is the currency of the organization. Everyone needs to face this challenge head on .
First step is to classify the sect as a terrorist organization this should focus everyones attention in the right direction.
Next we need real leadership from the president, Pm and the entire cabinet.Who said leadership is cheap. Our members of parliament need to start earning their salaries and be willing to make hard decisions. A group of our mp's are angling to become the official opposition in parliament let their first agenda be unmasking Mungiki and naming their sponsers.
We also need to freeze all mungiki sources of revenue using all government arms and all their bank accounts.
We need to arrest all their leaders including past and present members of parliament.
Without political will there will be no solution to this problem...
Without taking action we are postponing problems that will later come to haunt us .
SimSim
Sim Sim why ware the same standards not used on other terrorists that were killing innocent people in their home s in January or destroying infrastructure why not negiotiate with them has a presidence not been set. You negotiate with criminals once you will be held ransom forever, people should have realised what they were advocating for when they argued that the rule of law should not be followed. Unfortunately this is just the begining.
ReplyDeleteOnce again our dozy old president has gone AWOL hoping that when he wakes from deep slumber,the murders and mayhem will have evaporated. You know what? some things just never change!
ReplyDeleteOnce Mungiki terror is rewarded with talks and cushy plum jobs just like ODM, then another gang will for sure as the sun rises be formed and will definately use the same tactics to bulldoze their way into power. The sooner we have a strong president to defend Kenya and her people the better.
With his middle finger stuck out at Kenyans, don't bank on oldie Kibaki to defend us. He's on the twilight of his chaotic reign and doesn't give a hoot what you think of him, so just save your breathe.
So are other leaders with their dirty snouts deep in the trough of public funds. This is indeed a very Kenyan problem which is or will definately affect you regardless of your tribe.
Mpesa stop imposing a kikuyu problem to Kenyans. What has a Rendille or a Njemp to do with this Mungiki dirty thing?
ReplyDeleteCHARLES.NAIROBI.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the attacks were planned by the childlike attention seekers...yet the BLATANTLY COPY methods of protesting!
BURNING CARS AND BUSES is nothing NEW to Kenyans....they should GET TRAINED BY Kisumu residents ON how 2 BURN DOWN A CITY IN 45 MINUTES!!!
MUNGIKI THUGS HAVE NO NEW IDEAS, if they had any anyway.if they believe women wearing trousers is TOO WESTERN, WHY DONT THEY.
1.STOP USING CELLPHONES
2.STOP USING ELECTRICITY AND PIPED WATER.
3.STOP USING VEHICLES AND STOVES TO COOK.
4.STOP USING EVERYTHING EVER INVENTED IN THE WEST AND GO BACK TO THE FOREST TO LIVE LIKE WILD ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!
CHRIS TO whom are these GOONS LYING TO!
Mungiki thugs are a bunch of LAZY DROPOUTS looking for THE EASIEST WAY OUT!!!
ASK YOURSELF WHICH MAN TERRORIZES A WOMAN AND STANDS AMONG MEN TO BE COUNTED!!!
The police seem to believe this group have something to offer Kenyans...this slimy green scum should be wiped off the face of Kenya!
Anonymous @ 12:38,
ReplyDelete"It is never too late to deal with a problem. The delay just makes might it harder."
Post election violence is no defence for the existance of Mungiki. They have been used and dumped by the political and business class as a private militia. Mungiki are terrorists plain and simple and should be dealt with as such.
My question to you is what is Mungiki negotiating for?
The right to continue extorting money and terrorizing women for wearing trousers?
The act of killing innocent people in january was criminal but that does not amount to terrorism.These post election criminals should be brought to book.The government however has never negotiated with these criminals.
The government negotiated with ODM following a flawed electrol process or "accident" as it was refered to by the Tanzanian president Kikwete .
The mungiki terrorists have never followed the law and therefore are not first time offenders. Indeed these serial offenders should be read the riot act.
SimSim
Anon 1:08 am - ARE YOU JUST IGNORANT OR PURPOSELY STUPID? oF COURSE THIS AFFECTS ALL kENYANS BECAUSE ALL kENYANS ARE KEPT RANSOM BY THESE CRIMINALS. AND AS LONG AS NTV OR JEFF KOINANGE ARE OFFERING THEM AIR SPACE ON THEIR CHANNELS AND WITH IT A WORLDWIDE PUBLICITY, THEY WILL EVEN BECOME STRONGER. RESULT. MORE KENYANS WILL DIE. OR DID YOU HEAR THEM ASKING BEFORE ATTACKING INNOCENT PEOPLE TO WHICH TRIBE THEY BELONG?
ReplyDeleteI WOULD SAY THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS TO DO WOULD BE TO ASK JEFF KOINANGE HOW AND WHERE HE GOT INTO CONTACT WITH THEM. AND WHY DID HE DECIDE TO GIVE THEM SUCH A PUBLICITY. WHAT DID THEY PAY HIM? BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT JEFF IS VERY EASILY TO BE BRIBED AND TO BRIBE WHEN HE IS INTERESTED IN A GOOD STORY. WE ALSO KNOW THAT JEFF KOINANGE IS VERY CLOSE TO KIBAKI AND PROF. MAATHAI AND THE LATTER IS A MEMBER OF MUNGIKI.
I take great exception on some comments posted here but let me also post mine.Mungiki as it were are not pirates that are asking for ransom hence no negotiation should be thought of here.To imagine that the goverment should negotiate with them is just being nuts.
ReplyDeleteSecondly,this is a kikuyu problem wholesale.To equate the problem to the post election violence is plain silly because then there was a common grievance bogging about 41 or so communitties that had made their case but with was awarded a NOLLE PROSECUI if i have it right.
Like someone said they are just a bunch of lazy nabobs.For those who think this guys have some precision i should think its precision with the parameters of MOB PSYCHOLOGY period!!!!!!!! If these guys are really courageous why dont they like am told send their boys who are cowards of course,the kalenjin warriors way where a group of ten boys sent the whole lot of us in nakuru run amok.What they simply do is ambush a group of helpless mothers (their Mothers) and rough them up and destroy their property!
I repeat the kikuyu are on self destruct period!
ODM Mass action brigade, Mindless Mungiki two sides of the saw coin, when ODM advocated that the rule of law should be abandoned they started us on this path, why even in zimbabwe the opposition with all the problems and support still chose the legal route, Why? because they are true leaders once you embark on the path of lawlessness there will be nothing but strife. It would be good to remember that people have been living in fear since the begining of the year, people have been threatened by supposed leaders that they can not return home unless their demands are met, so why should only a section of society live in fear NO! FEAR WILL ENGULF US ALL NO PEACE FULL STOP.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:26 AM- Kindly stop being silly and open your brains wide open where else in Kenya have you heard young men undressing their old mothers and daughter simply because they are wearing trousers and not Kikuyus. Did somebody say this community have a generation where some families are inbreeding?
ReplyDeleteOn another topic regional heads of state have declined to come and witness the swearing in of the prime minister choosing instead to send their own Prime Ministers arguing that the swearing in of the Prime Minister should only be attended by their own Prime Ministers who are of equal ranking and not the level of head of state or government. Because of this snub Raila has opted to move the function to a low key ceremony in State House.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:50, give us the names of the said prime ministers. The Kenyan PM is so 'weak' that he can instruct for his swearing in to be at the undesirable state house ama what were you referrring?
ReplyDeleteAnon 1:55 Exactly,we want names and then we can make up the thick or thin of it.I wonder if RAO can lower himself so low.
ReplyDeleteAlso in the true spirit of the accord Kibaki in a show of who is wearing the pants in the relationship, will go ahead and name PS today as well as making appointments to parastatals he has declined to listen to ODM's pleas to be consulted and has instead told them that they should be content with what they got. This is a move to contain Ministers who are no yet in an executive capacity until after they are sworn in tommorrow, so come friday they will find PS's who will be the accounting officers in those Ministries and the true bosses leaving the Ministers to just attend functions and push papers in their offices.Also now in accordance with the Civil Service Code of Regulations all members of the Cabinet including the Prime Ministers and Deputy Prime Ministers are not allowed to travel without written authority of the President so forget visa bans he decides where you go, a circular stating the above has been circulated to all government agencies. What to do Chris?
ReplyDelete1.55 and 2.00 They are the prime Ministers of Burundi, Tanzania and Rwanda, Uganda has not yet confirmed its participation also Mkapa as a former head of State swill not attend for your information and it is not he that decided to have it at State House it is the President who said the function will take place there rather than the Grand Plans of Raila to have it in Uhuru Park
ReplyDeleteAnon 2:07-In the same accord it is written somewhere the coalition stand dissolved if any partner walks out, so don't argue as if the PM is permanently glued, it is a matter of time be patient. RAo just needs 10% executive power and not 50% in the accord, he demolished you patron Moi with no power at all. So start running while you can.
ReplyDelete2.13 that is the point he does not even have 10% and I don't think he demolished Moi because it seems that all those around him the people he proposed to be included in the Cabinet are Moi's people so keep kidding yourself about Raila bringing change, he is a prisoner to the same forces that imprisoned him, the same forces that blocked the constitution, the same forces that shafted his father, and the same forces that will shaft him, and when they are through they will shaft the son and keep doing so until he knows his place sad but true
ReplyDelete2:21 A sweet dream you have there when you wake up, find us as we watch the house going down on its own courtesy to their mungiki sons.
ReplyDeleteAnon 2.21 so sad but so true
ReplyDeleteJust sit down with them and find out what they want.
ReplyDeleteIf the Govt can sit down with ODM who did exactly the same thing as Mungiki surely why not them.
Why am i reading sideshows here while the topic was about MUNGIKI menace????
ReplyDeleteA look at mungiki reveals one thing. While it emerged as a self help organization. It has morphed into an extensive criminal network.
ReplyDeleteMungiki's grievences are not dissimilar to any youths in Kenya or any of the 95% of Kenyan who have to make do with less than 10% of the national income.
Mungiki say they want the return to traditional culture, in that argument alone, any person with brains will dismiss the outfit as disingenuous and using culture as front for criminal activity.
One thing about culture is that culture is dynamic never static. For example the tobacco they (mungiki) snort is never a traditional Kenyan plant. It is a new world plant introduced to the rest of the world by Spanish conquistadors. So even as they ritualize, the product (tobacco) is in no way local. Talk of being oxymoronic
I could mention numerous fallacies in their practice and ways that are unAfrican, harassing women being one of them. Tell, me if any African man could dare strip his mother or anyone of his mothers age naked?
Mungiki have no cause. And how is the government supposed to negotiate with people who are not elected by anyone. This government is illegal, we all accept that but, Still how can they negotiate with an amorphous group of extortionists?
So, I repeat this, Mungiki is a criminal organization like any other. The biggest danger posed by mungiki include the following
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(1)Other communities will form similar organizations. Well lets shudder at that thought.
(2)Threathened individuals in the Kikuyu community will form their own protection gangs. A very likely scenarios this one.
(3) Murders by other individuals blamed on mungiki. Well, Kenyans being enterprising, this is very like too
(4) Most importantly, perhaps is the ostracizing of their community, especially outside central Kenya. Need I say more.
That is why the silence by MPs from central kenya is cowardly and that is why pro PNU supporters on this blog come out as cowards too, because even on the web none of the regular ODM bashers have supported my idea that by joining mungiki a known criminal gang, one implicitly and explicitly give up the rights to a fair trial and they thus sentence themselves to death, either by the police or by their own gang members. Mungiki, my friends is the biggest danger facing people in Central Kenya and its environs.
There is a guy from kwale who was saying that ODM were a silly lot for holding demos, now whats his take on the Mungiki.
ReplyDeleteSir what do you know about Mungiki? truth.
Sire Alex
Since we have a new blog at hand i wish to crown this by loudly wondering and decrying the loud silence from the peeps from central and most especially the Mps.
ReplyDeleteLol Anon 1.16
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteJust sit down with them and find out what they want.
If the Govt can sit down with ODM who did exactly the same thing as Mungiki surely why not them.
3:17 AM
only a fool can post such shaite!!who stole/rigged election??? kibaki PNU
who gave the police order to kill innocent kenyans??? kibaki PNU
who had a meeting with mungiki at his residence before and after elections who now claim they were paid to go committ genocide in naivasha and nakuru ?? kibaki PNU
so who are te thugs here??
PNU and only PNU so ODM should never have agreed to negotiate with thugs like KIBKI- now you see what kibaki's foot soldiers are doing paralyzing the city because kibaki has refused to pay them the balance of the crimes well done!!
shame on you to equate ODM with mungiki thugs- only people who do not allow kenyans to hold peaceful demonstration and kill them when they try can spew such shiate on here!!
pnu is the criminal party that took kenyans at ransom to force it 's way in power after loosing the elections and mungiki were their foot soldier before and after the elections and now they can't control them!! KIBAKI, UHURU, MARTHA KARUA, KARUME, MICHUKI, SAITOTI. NJENGA, KABONDO WA KABONDA the mungiki confirmed are the ones who held a meeting with them at the presidents residents- so let them tell kenyans what they promised the mungiki's and what they paid them to commit genocide in nakuru and naivasha-
ReplyDeletei hear te promise was to release their leader-so the MOU was turn up by KIBAKI the same way with all the other MOU's he has ever signed- kibaki should never be trusted- so i suggest to the mungiki to go for the list of people that signed the MOU with them- why hurt innocent kenyans??? deal with the people that lied to you- put down your tools and then join peace like all other kenyans!!
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ReplyDeleteThere is a guy from kwale who was saying that ODM were a silly lot for holding demos, now whats his take on the Mungiki.
Sir what do you know about Mungiki? truth.
mungiki is the creation of kikuyu Mt. kenya mafia as foot soldiers employed or contracted to do criminal acts- ODM IS A POLITICAL PARTY VOTED IN BY KENYANS TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OF KENYA
now if you didn't go to school sir Alex do not show your ignorance on here!!
unless you voted in mungiki during elections then it means PNU=mungiki
go sort it out in Central Province- other kenyans want to go on with thier business without your criminal nonsense!!
mungiki =PNU=crime in Kenya
ReplyDeleteMungiki= is a gang for hire by the Central Province Members of parliament!!!
now they have outlived their use and were damped high and dry!!
during and after elections it was known that mungiki were promised the release of their leader Njenga if they went and did the PNU=Central Mt. Kenya mafia dirty crimes- they sure went and did exactly that in Nakuru and Naivasha but their leader Njenga was not released (BBC reported the story on air and Alfred MUtua Denied it) where is he now?? the government mouth piece?
anyway instead of KIBAKI and his cronies releasing their leader- they went and killed his wife to silence him ??? more to come but other towns western, now rift valley, nyanza, coast, north eastern have warned they will not allow any mungiki member in their provinces- so how does one differentiate a mungiki with an ordinary kikuyu??
actually the kikuyu's themselves are creating the Lesotho - beacuse the other communities now will be very suspicious with which kikuyu's land in their province and their movements will be monitored- look at Eldoret?? wanaichi took it upon themselves to flash the mungiki out and would have killed all of them but police intervened?? why did they when the same police executed them last year??
So KIKUYU'S BETTER BRAISE THEMSELVES OF A LIVE OF SUSPICION IN OTHER PROVINCES- NO FREE RIDE ANYMORE- IF THEY BEHAVE FUNNY MARK MY WORDS THEY WILL BE CHASED OUT- WHO ON EARTH WANTS A MUNGIKI NEIGHBOR?? TO SLAUGHTER THEM AT NIGHT WHILE THEY ARE ASLEEP??? NOT ME!!
PNU Members of parliament from Central?? why are they quiet? what do they have to hide??
ReplyDeleteI'M MORE SHOCKED THAT EVEN WHEN MURANGA TOWN AND NEIGHBORING TOWNS HAS LITERARY BEEN SHUT DOWN BY MUNGIKI AFTER MUNGIKI DROPED-WARNING LEAFLETS NOT TO OPEN FOR BUSINESS OR ELSE??
who are the MP's of this area's?? why haven't they protested?? can someone give me an answer to this question???
why haven't this MP's protested?? or come on air and told the mungiki's to keep of?
i second you anon 6:52 AM-yes why has no member of parliament from muranga or Kirinyaga or Nyeri has spoken out and yet the mungiki has unleashed terror in all this places?? what are they fearing?? or are they the masterminds behind what is happening now? the mungiki saga?
ReplyDeleteI tend to think yes they are!! they are the master planners behind what mungiki is doing now and they should be called in for questioning and if any of them were named ministers or assistant ministers they should be stripped off their titles -since they can not control their own districts how can they work?? as ministers or so??
no no!!this Members of parliament of this districts are involved and master minded this with the mungiki's or why else are they SILENT!!!!!!!
i AGREE TOTALLY THE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT OF THIS DISTRICTS ARE INVOLVED IN THE MUNGIKI MASTER PLAN BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE WHY ANY MP CAN ALLOW HIS TOWNS TO BE SHUT OFF BY THE MUNGIKI TERRORIST GANGS?? WITHOUT SCREAMING ON AIR TELLING THEM TO GET OUT!!!! THEY ARE ALL IN IT WITH THE MUNGIKI'S!!!!
ReplyDeleteTHE SHOOK THE HAND WITH THE BEAST AND NOW IT IS THREATENING TO SWALLOW THEM!!!!MUNGIKI SHOULD BE SEND TO CENTRAL FULL TIME LET THEM RULE CENTRAL PROVINCE SINCE THEY DO NOT MIND USING THEM FOR THEIR CRIMES- THE KIKUYU'S LOVE THEM- WEREN'T THEY THE ONES PROTECTING THEM AND STANDING UP FOR THEM?? WANGARI MAATHAI!!KABONDO WA KABONDA, UHURU, KARUME(i understand the last oathing took place at his house in cianda)MARTHA KARUA-they like her because she is circumcised- didn't they reject Njoki Ndungu becuase she is not-
the mungiki foot soldiers is a kikuyu central province problem- let them be pushed back to central and rule there!! other Kenyans province will not allow such crimes on their territory- but the central province people seem not to mind!! like their women being stripped and being circumcised - si they say this is back to kikuyu traditional roots??eh!!
ODM and their sympathisers have no moral authority to demonize mungiki while they sat pretty and cheered during the post election violence that claimed lives of more than 1000 kenyans and displaced more than half a million Kenyans.
ReplyDeleteAnnon 7.34. You PNU MoFo's don't really get it do you? You remind me of Sam Nyamweya on the eve of the cabinet announcement. The idiot was waxing lyrical about how the Prime Minister was sub-ordinate to the president. How stupid. Kwani he had been brain dead since you guys stole the vote?
ReplyDeleteDON'T COMPARE ODM WITH A TRIBAL OUTFIT. Odm's were protests of justice and prevention of impunity by the illegal government...and it worked..Did it not? That is why the spontaneous violence was from Busia to Mombasa (with Kale's and Luo's the harshest of course).
Post election violence was a matter of millions of Kenyans being trapped by you kikuyu sycophants. Now, Mungiki could be having serious tantrums about how Uhuru or some other rich central Kenya leader duped them...but it is of no national importance that they are allowed to behead innocent civilians and deny women their rights to dress code. WE ODMER'S RESOUNDINGLY REFUSE OUR STRUGGLES FOR EQUITY AND JUSTICE TO BE COMPARED TO THAT OF ONE TRIBE AT WAR WITH ITSELF.
Like Funnywiseguy said above, Mungiki better stick to their areas of origin, and if they believe in what annon 12.02 says..That Nairobi has its true owners..Let the m try and stall business at the cbd and we will just see for ourselves.
Where is the Nyayo Bus Service when you need it!
ReplyDeleteSOMETHING OBVIOUS should not be substanciated.
ReplyDeletePNU=MUNGIKI
Coast, RV, Nyanza, Western, NEP never allow PNU step in to your provinces. Jeer and heckle the Mwivi Kifucky, Mungiki No 1, when he comes or simply dont welcome him. We want a clean Kenya. Fight these evil people until they change.
These uncultured Mungiki should not be allowed at all to go to other provinces. No Kikuyu Matatus, No Kikuyu businesses in other provinces.
I personally have no problem with Majimboism system of Government, which all the Developed countries practice, for example Canada has 13 provinces and each one of them under a premier, USA has 50 States and each of them under a governor. But my problem in Kenya is Tribalism. Some dorks on this Blog were even sugessting that people should be getting VISA`s to travel to their upcountry homes, outside their Provinces.
ReplyDeleteI think that`s a bit too much to ask!!!!!
What do you think Kenyans?
I love it when people adopt a holier than thou attitude. Mungiki does this,mungiki does that. One of you says tobacco is a foreign plant and sniffing it is culturally repulsive. Whats the difference between a cigarette and Snuff. arent they both tobacco? To most of you, if it smells its Kikuyu and one cant fault your irrationality but if look at todays paper -http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=121332. You will see others who are not kikuyus and acting with the same savagery.
ReplyDeleteFrom the onset, I believe in sanctity of human life whether mungiki or otherwise. The fact that police carried out extrajudicial killings against mungiki should be carry the same weight like those that were carried out in Kisumu. Police should never kill with impunity.
kenyans have now institutionalised violence and its a matter of time before chinkololo, jeshi la mzee, jeshi la whatever .... start demanding their pound of flesh.
lest you forget the young killers of Eldoret, Kipkelion, Molo, Kuresoi, Kibera, mathare and Mt. Elgon have now a brilliant example to follow.
For those of you dreaming that this is a kikuyu problem, you have another thing coming at you.
Iko swali?