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Tuesday, February 26, 2008

PNU and ODM Teams Return to Negotiating Table

The heat is on, as Annan says he has suspended many important assignments to be in Kenya (but PNU politicians seem to be taking the country in circles!)

After the government side introduced a new raft of demands that trashed a power-sharing deal reached in the infamous Kilaguni Lodge, it immediately resulted into a collapse of the mediation talks on Monday. But it seems all is not lost, because it now appears Kofi Annan has managed to bring the warring parties back to the negotiation table after meeting both Mwai Kibaki and Raila Odinga last evening.

As at the time of posting this, both parties were back meeting Annan and his group of eminent persons in their usual Serena Hotel rendezvous. It is unclear whether what they were unable to agree on Monday had been sorted out with their respective principals.

In order to achieve normalcy in Kenya, Annan and the international community are in agreement with the ODM in its quest for an immediate political settlement arising out of the disputed December 2007 election before deeper negotiations and agreements can be reached on the issue of constitution review. That immediate political settlement is: POWER SHARING.

Earlier Koffi Annan's aide had told CNN that the Chief Mediator would be leaving Kenya unless the protagonist reached an agreement. Annan himself issued a statement saying:
"After four hours of intense negotiation this morning, the team made almost no progress on reaching an agreement on government, I had to conclude that they were not capable of resolving the outstanding issues."

Annan's diplospeak is hardly revealing any failure, but it is revealing huge frustration and disappointment orchestrated by the Government side led by Martha Karua. Matters were not helped by the fact that the Local government minister - Uhuru Kenyatta - was engaging in blatant abuse of power by trying to influence (read-rig) the Nairobi and Nakuru mayoral polls in favour of PNU. This morning, the ECK Chairman, Samuel Kivuitu has uncharacteristically come out in support of ODM and disowned Uhuru Kenyatta with regard to the nomination of Esther Passaris by ODM.

Back to the Annan led mediation talks, Annan has been in Kenya for more than a month trying to resolve the elections crisis and it is said that it is the longest period he has spent on any conflict resolution. Annan met both Raila and Kibaki Monday evening and released a statement saying: "I believe that the Panel of Eminent African Personalities working with the Kenya National Dialogue and Reconciliation has done its work. I’m now asking the party leaders, Hon Raila Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki to do theirs."

77 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think that any normal thinking person would agree that after the flawed elections a fair and real 50:50 power-sharing is a great way forward. ODM, the internation community, and actually a large number of local moderates from tribes usually not linked to ODM see this very clearly.

However, kibaki and friends try to make it look like they are cornered into giving up what is rightfully theirs. They are GREEDY and SELFISH and they don't care whether Kenya goes down with them.

Taabu said...

Phil Annan is only human and he doing us a great favour. The chap has other more interesting things to do. He has come face to face with an UNCIVILIZED leader ready to export his jingoism. Kofi can only do as much. Fingers corssed hoping they wont snap.

Anonymous said...

What I don't understand is why pressure on kibaki is not increased. They should revoke visas, state it publically, freeze assets, send home their families, etc. etc.
There are a lot of ways of hitting them personally. And that is what they need to do now. Otherwise, Annan is just left alone fighting a completely unwilling power hungry government.

luke said...

Bwana Phil, i believe both factions have already tried this dialogue before;don't get me wrong i am all for negotiations, but dialogue has no use when both parties lack integrity to do what they say, so what is the point of meeting when Annan has already said its now upto Kibaki and Raila?
pick up the phone kibaki, pick up the phone raila, meet at steers tonight and ask each other why you both want to destroy Kenya.
Then agree like kenyans to share power between yourselves, and tomorrow morning make a press conference together, first thing to do is apologise unreservedly to kenyans for being terrible leaders and then re-name a new cabinet there and then on the spot
This is so simple, but what do i know i am just a pumbavu who should be carrying a machete chanting domo!domo!

Anonymous said...

@luke:
why do you put RAILA in the same class as kibaki? What has RAILA done to Kenya? He has never held any real powers in government, has he? So how can you hold him responsible for what is happening in Kenya?

In fact, by RAILA stepping aside for kibaki in 2002, he has done the greatest service to Kenya's democracy anyone has ever done to it. He has shown Kenyans the power of voting.

Like I wrote above:
What is so wrong with ODM/RAILA asking for a fair 50:50 power-sharing?!?

Anonymous said...

I'm PNU damu but also getting quite angry with Martha Karua's hardline towards these talks. In my humble view, she's THE obstacle to peace!

Irene Kondile said...

i am asking raila odinga and his supporters to take this deal. What are they being offered? the first thing they are being offered is peace and progress. Under kibaki, you can be sure there will be progress.
All odm needs to do is contribute peace. They are also being offered a prime ministership and two deputies created under an act of parliament. They are also being offered ministries to run and parastatals to manage. Their long-held desire to see the constitution reviewed has also be promised - within a year - with odm being the main actors as they control parliament.
This arrangement will be temporary until a new constitution is written. Entrenched executive power through an undemocratic process like the serena round of talks is conspiratorial and unrepresentative.
Why does raila want to wield executive power for less than a year? again, if raila becomes an executive pm, this will weaken the opposition considerably.
Who will watch over him given that pnu is part of government? if raila becomes a non-executive pm, it will represent quite a climb down for people like martha karua, kiraitu murungi and john michuki, who will have to eat humble pie and serve under raila.
It also a big achievement for raila and odm- the biggest reorganization of government since independence in 1963. Most importantly, it will save raila's country, and the entire east african region, from chaos that charles onyango-obbo described in the sunday nation.
I get the feeling, however, that raila and odm will not take it. Why? because they want everything or nothing. That is their idea of compromise. Simply put, raila wants executive power. He want to be president without proving that he won - simply on the basis of allegations and often repeated suspicions that the election was stolen.
I am worried that kibaki is giving too much space to raila and odm. Although evidence abounds that kibaki won, including declaration to that effect by eck, he has decided to negotiate with odm after they threatened the entire country with violence. I can understand kibaki’s desire to save the country.
He should realize, however, that violence threatens every single kenyan - and kenya's neighbors. It is not just pnu supporters who will suffer. Odm supporters have blood too. Odm cannot threaten kenya as if only pnu alone would go to the dogs - the whole country goes to the dogs. It is time to call odm's bluff.
They want to demonstrate? let them demonstrate. But if they break a single car window, break them and never allow them to protest for three years. Kibaki would be a fool to give up executive authority. He is the one 4.4 million kenyans elected, and he the one supported by odm-k' 800,000.
He the one being supported by thousands more who changed their mind after odm-instigated violence. Already, kibaki is too magnanimous in sharing responsibility for governance. It means if the odm prime minister does not perform, kibaki will be responsible, because the buck stops with the president.
Why is kibaki taking this risk? raila will likely fail as pm. He was a failure in all the ministries he held. Can anyone remember his achievements in energy during moi's regime, and roads and public works during kibaki first term? i guess part of the reason why two deputy pm are being demanded has something to do with the realization that odinga cannot work. He needs some donkeys to deputize him as he spends his term payukaring and exercizing domo.
This is the best deal. Raila should take it and work for kenya. The alternative is to refuse and consign the country to the dog. He should he will be on the front seat.

Irene Kondile

Anonymous said...

Hey, do you know guys have Railas potraits in their premises from Kericho westwards? My messenger just travelled back to Nairobi from Nyanza over the weekend. His guys were asking him where the hell he thought he was going and yet war is about to erupt in a few days time. Not a very hopeful comment.
Did you guys watch Leakey's interview with Jeff Koinange? He said guys should not butcher each other like the Mau mau simply because they disagree on issues. But I wonder, had the Mau mau not butchered, would anyone have listened?

Atis Nyakenya said...

I think it is the height of cheek for Kivuitu to come out a day after elections to announce that Uhuru's move was illegal. Where has he been since Friday?!!!!Or was that the plan all along? My dear people, it appears to me that these guys are far from through with our collective Kenyan voice. As someone said earlier, I shudder to think what is in store for us come 2012! I have a feeling 2007 was just testing the waters. Now that they have proved that they can get away with it (make no mistake...They have!, 2012 will be a walk over for them. They wont even bother with pseudo diplomacy then. By the way, i still insist that they have gotten away with it. For as long as the beacons of our nation's moral and conscience values do not categorically and DIRECTLY(!)point to the THIEF and sanction him individually; for as long as the Koffi Annans, the Kaparos, the Bishops et al continue to lump Raila and Kibaki in the same blame basket for Diplomacy's sake(!!!), for as long as nobody of great standing and political voice has the guts to firmly and squarely sanction Kibaki as the election thief,and thereby place the country's sanity at his doorstep and his doorstep alone; for as long as Raila's name keeps being spoken in the same breath as Kibaki's when talking about lack of peace and democracy in order to 'appear neutral' and to 'avoid inflammatory remarks', when all the while we all blame Kibaki in private,(yes, even his fellow Kiuks are embarrassed by the new level of arrogance except they have been threatened by mungiki if they dare speak out of 'turn'with the house of mumbi!); for as long as our leaders do not stand up and collectively say it as it is, for as long these things continue to happen as we 'diplomatically wait', PANUA HAVE WON THE DAY! PANUA HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT! Brace yourselves for unprecedented arrogance and dictatorship come 2012.

Atis Nyakenya said...

In 2012, they wont even bother with the farce of counting the votes and topping up... they will march straight to Statehouse and Martha Karua will be sworn in. She runs the show now. Why should she wait and work hard for Kalonzo and Uhuru again after expending so much energy for Kibaki? Kalonzo may even have been dumped by then for all you know! Say it as it is to the culpable one now, or brace yourselves for 2012 fiasco and regret later.

Anonymous said...

Those of you who think that Raila is the saviour of Kenya, you have got it very wrong, Raila has an agenda, maybe the only difference is that he might do a little bit of resource redistribution to poorer ethnic and class groups but raila is a wolf in sheeps clothing, dont make the mistake of not holding him to account. And dont forget that when he assumes the PM position, he is as liable as the president for the effecient and equitable management of our country.

Anonymous said...

PANUA is just one person, MARTHA KARUA.

The British should take a firm stand against this woman, her children are studying in the UK.I am sure a travel ban on them is enough to to deal with her.

As she is wrecking the country her children are happily studying in the UK.Let them return and roast in her bile.

Anonymous said...

@Irene Kondile;
Quote me on this, Next time you wonder why some Kenyans are livid at other Kenyans, and why some want succession, The extremely disparaging attitude in your post is the answer.
You and your ilk, in PNU address Kenyans as if you are the matron of a catholic girls boarding school of the old or as you are the principle of a Kindergarten.
PNU attitude mirrored in you article is basically, we shall screw you without you consent, if you do not complain much then we might use some lubrication and do if less often. But we will screw you.
Well, you are not going to screw anyone but youself

Anonymous said...

Irene Kondile are you Kenyan.....Ati progress with Kibaki my foot...pls tell us another one....You know Moi was everything but Moi had a heart, h ewould see suffering and bend down...But your favourite president Kibaki is holed up in state house and leaves Kalonzo and Karua to air his dirty linen in public...At time i think he already is a ceremonial president so what is the big deal if Raila becomes a powerful PM, he shuts himself in statehouse and doesn't even know that people are suffering...The only thing he knows is that guys are displaced in Eldoret and goes there ...What is he waiting for before he starts to build those masionettes in Eldoret? I thought he promised to do that...We wacha i'd rather take water and leave in a peaceful country rather than eat meat in a house that is burning...Kibaki has failed this country...

Anonymous said...

This is a recipe for chaos. The moment those in authority deny people the right to make their choices through the ballot in a free and fair environment they are simply inviting/telling them to look for alternatives, the bullet may well prove to be that alternative.

Future Assassin

Anonymous said...

ls this pnu member asleep like most of then!!LISTEN CAREFULLY RAILA DOES NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING !!HE WON THE ELECTIONS KIBAKI RIGGED- IT IS THE OTHER ROUND -KIKABI SHOULD BE KNEELING ON HIS NICE FOR EVEN BEING OFFERED 50/50 KENYANS ALL READY HAD SAID TO r
RAILA NO!!SO PLEASE DO SHUT UP WITH YOUR BLIND IGNORANCE!!

Anonymous Irene Kondile said...

Taabu said...

@Irine Kondile please have a taste of your own prescription first. Your take sounds like you have just landed from MARS, well welcome to the earth and kazi iendelee. In one go you speak of the largest movement since independence but just before you gasp for breath you shamelessly give an incoherent lecture on ELECTION THEFT. Sanitize rot if you must but please appreciate the AROMA, won't you?

Anonymous said...

UNDER KIBAKI - WHAT PROGRESS??
ANGLO LEASING KIND OF PROGRESS??
SHOULD I CONTINUE POINTING TO YOU HOW THERE WILL BY NO PROGRESS UNDER KIBAKI- AND LIST DOWN ALL THE CORRUPTION CASES- BETWEEN 2002-2007??



Irene Kondile said...

i am asking raila odinga and his supporters to take this deal. What are they being offered? the first thing they are being offered is peace and progress. Under kibaki, you can be sure there will be progress.

deroo said...

To all,

Before i delve in replying Phil's post, I wish to state categorically that most of you, apart from Irene Kondile here are one-sided and hell-bent to smear the PNU Team in the talks for nothing.

Nobody in his balanced wisdom is looking at it that what ODM are presenting to the team are impractical and cannot happen now or ever.

The thing is that being one-sided is eating up the basis of the real arguments some of you here might offer.

PNU agreed to have the PM's post and 2 deputies. All occuopants to the seats were to be drawn from an amalgam of parties in the current parliament. The PM is to be appointed by the sitting president and any other minister to serve shall so be appointed.

Now, it has turned out that because Kibaki appointed 17 ministers, ODM want to be accorded 17 ministries, they make their own appointment and rifle them to Kibaki to make announcements. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

That Kibaki cannot sack an errant minister having a court case arising from a piece of land he stole from Kenya Pipeline while he was in the Kanu government. That will not happen.

That Kibaki cannot sack a recently elected minister since she was, like her newly ecelted former PS involved in the Goldenberg and Anglo Leasing Scam, and an armophous CENTURY ENTERPRISE until Raila Odinga approves, WISHFULL THINKING.

That for Kibaki to appoint a minister Raila Odinga has to agree with it and consequently endorse a sacking: NDOTO MBAYA.

Kibaki has agreed and ceded his immense powers to appoint Raila Odinga an inspector of his ministries. Period. If Kibaki names him the PM and not Noah Katana Ngala, then what will happen. It will be good anyway, when Kibaki sends Raila to check on the road construction in Bondo where Michuki cannot step and report back to him within a few days.

Or, for Raila to monitor to re-settlement of communities in Eldoret driven away by the ODM goons. Or better still, to check on the FISHERIES Ministry in Lwanda Kotieno.

Anyway, whatever the outcome, there is no way that Kibaki will give away his powers and any machinations being created by ODM to apply pressure on PNU will come a cropper. Even releasing details of the meeting and the unconcluded draft to the Standard for propaganda purposes will serve no purpose. Just the same way THAT agreement that was allegedly drafted and presented to Kibaki for signature by John Kuffor and availed to newspaper organisations, this one is bound to fail.

Martha Karua is not wrong at all, and just as Kibaki has said before, everything has to be done as per the current constitution.

Phil, another thing bwana, you mean Nyatanga survived the RACOON that visited Kibera. I thought it survived going by the happenings witnessed here over the last few days, I am deeply concerned that it is still operational.

Phil, you wrote here that Raila Odinga flew to South Africa (he denied it) then to Nigeria on a charter plane. That is Nyatanga. He never went to SA.

You said JOBLESS CORNER leader Musalia Mudavadi will head the TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT. As who? How does he come into this. Kenya Police are lenient. This is the bloke behind the mayhem that visited the country after he announced Raila as the winner and he is still scot-free. Even after Goldenberg?

You wrote about Passaris and Passaris and it all ended up in black smoke. Nyatanga.

Phil, you said that Uhuru Kenyatta is a mere local government minister. Do you know what being a local government minister is? VERY POWERFUL. Nyatanga.

-Derek-

Irene Kondile said...

I am also a Kenyan with the right to cast my own views. I have posted my own views with the idea that this bog supports divergent views of those who login. But I have been disappointed, some of you have publicly asked for my own rape, others say I am a matron of the school,
This will not be!

I repeat again, Raila and ODM needs to take the deal offered them. They lost the election and are losers. Losers never ask for power, they are given powers so that the country and the work can go on.
Work has to go on!.
Lustly, for the male chauvinists woh have have asked me to be raped, I want to say that how can I be raped and I represent Kenyans? Not all of us voted for ODM. How can ODM ask for me to be raped why the lost the erections?
This will not be!

Yours Faithflly
Irene Kondile

Anonymous said...

COPY OF THE PNU MASTER PLAN FOR IRENE KONDILE IN HERE AND ANY OTHER PNU MEMBER WHO HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT

Irene you abuse Kenyan peoples intelligence - go through your own manifest!!

ACTION POINTS

Action Point - Truth Prevalence or Lack thereof
PNU and Kenya Government need to rise up NOW! If they can’t find any in their midst, hire the worlds top guns in the field of public propaganda and media savvy-ness. Media Perception needs to be TOP of everything. Get the truth out in all the media and those who refuse to carry the story, pay for the adverts! That should be done in ALL the media outlets, with intensity especially in the neutral and ODM areas. The Goal is to inject doubt on the ODM victory in preparation of the TRUTH coming out. Insist on results from the PNU media strategy think-tank. They are being paid for results.


Action Point – Publicly Challenge ODM
Rather than just pay for Adverts seeking the truth and challenging Raila and ODM, these are the very exact questions Kibaki; yes the President himself. And he needs personally ask those questions on national TV and Radio. He needs to keep saying the same things over and over in English (Yes, English, his Kiswahili awful). Arrange for well publicized press conferences with question and answer sessions....in English.

The man is extremely eloquent and needs nobody to write speeches for him, as long as he does them in English. Others around him can do the Kiswahili versions on his behalf. Then let him mention and challenge Raila and Ruto by name. Yes challenge them personally and put them on the defense. Other PNU and PNU friendly officials go after their counterparts in ODM. Kibaki takes the challenging lead role and others follow. Let Kalonzo talk peace and show dictatorial tendencies of the entire ODM leadership and hence his jumping ship with ODM-K. Make public tours and repeat the same challenges over and over.


Action Point - ODM Rigged Big time
Get folks in ALL suspicious ODM areas where the vote was stolen in favor of ODM to file petitions in court. Prevail on the courts to move with speed and urgency to nullify the elections if the voters are indeed dead or could not have voted. This is a public safety issue and public security. Give it top priority. Hire more Judges if necessary to handle other cases while the more respected and experienced judges handle the election petitions. This is part of the negotiation ODM is pretending to ask for - speedy resolution of election cases.

Action Point - Preaching Peace
Get ALL religious leaders and community leaders preach UNITY like NEVER before. For example, get popular pop stars, local and international to participate in peace rallies.
So what the government pays for them directly or otherwise. It’s about endearing the masses for the sake of peace. Get the Muslim leaders to condemn violence. Islam is a peaceful and compassionate religion, not the radical fundamentalism painted by the west. The government should embrace and echo that fact over and over. Have interdenominational prayers by all major religions. Condemn ODM style violence and senseless loss of life. Use Burnt Forrest as an example - always.

Action Point - Demonize Majimbo
Make MAJIMBO synonymous with VIOLENCE and discrimination and an excuse for wanton destruction of life and property. Mount similar campaigns like those by ODM and condemn violence and insist on peace and amicable resolution of disputes in courts. Get all the top-guns to go for peace and ONE nation, One Country under the rule of law NOT lawless disputes on the streets as rallying points. Always mention Majimbo on the same sentence with Raila, Ruto and Chaos and loss of life.
Show that it is a hate campaign designed to bring chaos. Repeat the church burning and tossing of the 3yr old as what Majimbo means.
We are all brothers in one family called Kenya. Show how Kibaki has been all-inclusive president but was railroaded by a disgruntled minority after the referendum to snatch power illegally. Drum it in, over and over.

Action Point- Act on Corruption
Get all those corruption cases on the likes of Ruto, Mudavadi and Murungaru on fast track. Show that ODM is a worthy opponent with good points but those good points are being tarnished by corrupted individuals. Name them by pointing to corruption cases. Make them pay for the corruption. Please the West that cries for corruption cases and jail terms.
Kosgey and Ruto should be first closely followed by other dirty individuals even in Kibaki camp. The country is much more important than a few rotten but friendly eggs. The point is to be seen to be taking action on corruption…remember the perception factor?


Action Point - Act on Violence Masterminds
With the Intelligence on hand, prosecute RUTO, Alexanda Sitienei and accomplices on RV clashes. Damage has been done in RV so, no worse could happen with the Kalejin vote. Get others on incitement charges. Make tribal clashes look REALLY BAD AND BARBARIC. Let everyone frown on the primitive nature associated with it in this day and age. Several people must face the law and indeed long jail terms, really long. They should be highly publicized cases.

Action Point - Public Thoroughfare
Make blocking public roads look so bad and make bandits blocking such roads as economic saboteurs and potential murderers and robbers. They are basically criminals up to no good. The motive for such closures is always to cause trouble, rob, maim and even kill in the mayhem.

Execute shoot to kill orders for blocking roads. Move with speed. (Try blocking I-95 in the US with barricades and see what will happen, human rights will be forgotten!)

Action Point - Increase the Police Force
It’s a known fact that in Kenya, the police and armed forces in general are seriously outnumbered per capita (to the general public) going by world standards. Hire extensively and fast track police training to maintain peace.
Have local policing to maintain peace and above all avoid local thuggery. Borrow a leave from the extremely functional Tanzanian policing system: Security is everyone’s concern; national police is a supplement to help the locals as they maintain and manage peace, not the other way round as it is in Kenya.

Action Point - International Mediation
Invite International mediators and show the facts and especially as they favor the government side. If for instance President John Kafour was railroaded with un-orthodox documents out of character and disingenuous procedures, let the government have President Kafour talk about it to the world media. Let the Kenya public hear it over and over again. Have public debates on it. Always focus and shape the public debate in PNU favor. Never play catch up to the opposition. Senior government officials participating in such talks should give a public report as much and as often as necessary. You know the opposition will rush with biased information, act to beat them in the press game.

Action Point - Look to the future
With VP Kalonzo secure on the government side, let him take the lead in the Peace initiatives with the President taking a commanding role and being publicly visible. Have an internal move to put ODM-Kenya and PNU friendly parties into one. This becomes a HUGE advantage to Kalonzo who should be preparing for the 2012 Presidential elections. Get the Coast and Western Provinces fully behind the new unity party, whatever its name. DO NOT RELENT on the Media and wooing the youth in the new-Kalonzo unity initiative. Always give a forward looking, confident, inspiring and highly optimistic future with the young fully incorporated.

Action Point – Keep Central Out of the limelight
Central and GEMA tribes, the so-called Mount Kenya Mafia are Kenya’s favorite punching bags in the political arena. Keep the GEMA group in crucial supportive roles behind the scenes. Kamba and other non-GEMA tribes to be seen leading the imitative but not prominent in its formation. Have GEMA 100% behind Kalonzo with Western Kenya, Coast, N. Eastern and Rift Valley prominent in the new unity outfit. With such Strong unity and a corruption free progressive government, ODM will be struggling. Kalonzo should take that lead with public blessings of the president. With KANU left as a skeleton, a single strong united party, extremely disciplined should be the force required to confront ODM in the coming and inevitable battles in parliament and public Perception.

Action Point – The Raila Factor
Get the public talking about loss of life in the abortive 1982-coup attempt and the Dec 27, 2007 election aftermath. Connect the dots with public utterances on Raila to mean disgruntled, willing to kill and circumvent the law for leadership sake. The ODM adherents went with the winning propaganda party that looked like it would win with GEMA as the poster boys of ridicule, and it worked. Never relent on the violence and Raila’s desire to be president whatever the cost, including loss of life. Do whatever it takes to turn tables around for all to embrace each and all, irrespective of tribe. It can be done!

Action Point – The Youth Factor
The Youth must be incorporated in this new unity initiative. It needs to be fashioned in such a way to look like it is the Youths initiative, progressive, non-tribal and chic! If a young person has to be progressive and forward looking then one has to be made to be spearheading the new initiative that truly condemns and shuns violence and dismiss it. Strengthen the Women and Youth Development funds. Give credit to the Government.

Action Point – The Western World Motive
Insist on the motive for the Western government to ridicule and point a finger at Kibaki. Show publicly with convincing figures and graphs what the West lost in terms of no-bid government contracts with business moving to China. Show how they refused to support Kibaki after the contracts were cancelled. Show high tax collection and how it has been put to excellent use. Show budget supported by 95% local revenue. Show development was across the land before the violence. Show pictures of before and after. Show the West motive is to subjugate and domineer the poor countries and Kibaki managed to break free. Breaking free meant that the rest of the Poor countries were being shown the way forward by Kenya, and that the West can’t afford that. Show the WTO policies and how Eastern facing by Kibaki (Read China) is bad for the West and Great for Kenya and poor nations. Bring the contradictions of Raila courting Muslims by day and the West by night.


All the actions should be thoughtfully timed with the public debate always insisting on peace and progress. Encourage others to acknowledge the Kibaki splendid record. YOUTH MUST of necessity, be at the core of the all these initiatives. After all, the future of the country (and indeed the kingdom of God) belongs to such as these young… Actually work has been cut for PNU side: just use the now infamous ODM Poll Strategy document only this time for positive outcome. Use similar SWOT analysis and above all, have the outcome ACTED upon. Swing this thing around using their weapon, clearly thought out action plans with specific goals and objectives with action-oriented operatives.

This is serious business to be executed corporate style. No roadside or broadside statement declarations. No statement to be issued unless approved by the core think-tank. It’s a high stakes game by very senior management professionals.



Anonymous Irene Kondile said...

i am asking raila odinga and his supporters to take this deal. What are they being offered? the first thing they are being offered is peace and progress. Under kibaki, you can be sure there will be progress.

Anonymous said...

Irene Kondile if Kibaki won;
why did he swear himself in secrecy under amid tight security??
Why did we not have a huge celebration by all Kenyans at Uhuru park like we did in 2002?
Why were there riots in all parts of the xtry except central and Eastern or was that part of our imagination?
Kivuitu maintains he does not know if Kibaki won till now??
Are you saying all the observers- international and Kenyan are Pumbavu's??
You have no idea do you that more than half of Kenyan( interms of landscape over 3/4's) do not want to hear Kibaki's name. They do not care if he goes comes sits or does God knows what?? He simply does not exits for them...
Hence the guy needs to realise he cannot sit on the Stolen throne by force as you pple want him to...
That is why some pple are of the school of though that if he desperately needs to remain president let him be leader of Central and eastern if they will have him..... and leave the rest of us power hungry Kenyans to our own power hunger games...
The problem with PUNU all they think of is Raila. Raila this raila that- its not about Raila its about other Kenyans who are tired of arrogant bitches( read Karua) and bastards....

Anonymous said...

Irene Kondile:

Before you make asinine , convoluted arguments,get a clear understanding of what a non-executive PM means. Despite your attempts to "make a point", you just end up sounding like a mad woman stating in spite of all we know that "evidence abounds that Kibaki won", "ECK made a declaration". What progress are you referring to? That's a rhetorical question, if you eve understand what that word means. For heaven's sake, get a clue!

Irene Kondile said...

@Anon 5.21, I did not post that manifesto, you filthy lying snake, shetani pepo mbaya, two horned viper, shady chameleon. In the words of Kenyatta, you will know hapa hakuna macheso!.
This is what I posted

Irene Kondile said...
I am also a Kenyan with the right to cast my own views. I have posted my own views with the idea that this bog supports divergent views of those who login. But I have been disappointed, some of you have publicly asked for my own rape, others say I am a matron of the school,
This will not be!

I repeat again, Raila and ODM needs to take the deal offered them. They lost the election and are losers. Losers never ask for power, they are given powers so that the country and the work can go on.
Work has to go on!.
Lustly, for the male chauvinists woh have have asked me to be raped, I want to say that how can I be raped and I represent Kenyans? Not all of us voted for ODM. How can ODM ask for me to be raped why the lost the erections?
This will not be!

Yours Faithflly
Irene Kondile

deroo said...

Irene, leave these blokes alone.

Whoever says anythoing that they domnt like is bad. Today they are all chanting Orengo Orengo Orengo. Five years ago, they were the same people who said he was a useless lawyer, he is cheap, he is married to a Gema lady and all sorts of rusbbish. Today he is hero.

Sometime back Professor Anyang Nyongo was called any name a person can use to insult because he was supporting Charity Ngilu. Today, he is the best professor in the world. Irene, leave them alone and do your thing.

You fear that they are calling for your rape. That is kidogo. You need a pachydern skin today.

To them, there is only one politician called Raila Odinga, who heads Odinga Dictatorial Movement, that whosoever believeth in his shall not be raped but be praised with all platitudes.

Take heart Irene. Niko na wewe.

Irene, you are not the one who told them to burn school, buses, cars, houses and even promised them rent-free houses.

Kazi iendelee,

Kibaki TENA...PNU...

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Deroo- Like other PUNU diehards I hope you will be very happy that Kibaki remained President while Kenyans died and he finally had no one to Lord over.
You can only Lord of living pple not dead ones....actually you might die in the process too and there will be no one to Lord over the other.
Is this what PUNU is proud of their so called heaven???

Anonymous said...

GO READ THE PNu master plan it is somewhere on this post- handed over by a PNU MP- please don't abuse our intelligence!!where does it say in that plan that PNU is ready for power-sharing?? in fact it is says more on causing Chao's in kenya by inciting youth and others to discredit ODM and Jail some!!and as we Kenyans can see action speaks louder!
After most people read PNU MASTER PLAN even the international community their comments were "THIS IN CRAZY- KIBAKI IS TRYING TO DUPE EVERYONE- KENYANS WON'T ALLOW HIM GET AWAY WITH IT"" and i agree with them - once bitten twice shy!!!


deroo said...

To all,

Anonymous said...

Wonder why Karua has her children studying overseas, is she not the same person that said 'Heaven is here in Kenya'? Why settle for less?

Anonymous said...

@Irene Kondile
I like how you turn a typical PNU line...
'... How can ODM ask for me to be raped...' You lament,
I have not read anywhere in the blog ODM asking you to be raped. Please show us.

Yes, I did call you a school matron when I posted earlier. And now I have to apologize to all matrons, I should have called Jezebel, the devils own daughter. You are empty from the neck upwards and rotten in the rest, No one apart from Mungiki want you to be raped

Well, as for Derelict or Deroo, no you are right... Only in your mind though

deroo said...

IRENE, assume any post and barb that is directed at you. Ulichokoza wabaya. Just remain strong and do not be overworked and do not get emotional. Otherwise, leo, usingizi hakuna.

Just tell tthem that GO EAST, GO WEST KIBAKI IS THE PRESIDENT OF KENYA. NOT TODAY ONLY, UNTIL 2012.

KIBAKI WON, WAS SWORN IN AND WILL SERVE FOR FIVE YEARS. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN SINGING THAT USA ARE COMING TO TOPPLE THE BLOKE LAKINI...dua la kuku halipati mwewe. They have been singing that there will will be a take-over of government by the military, lakini, ole wao!

Gwiji la siasa Kenya Mwai Kibaki ndiye mwamba ushukani. Usiseme sana!

Hamtatulia miaka mitano. I have always told you here. Mkigeuka, swearing in. Mkigeuka...cabinet appointments...mkigeuka, GSU..mkigeuka parliament called to session and you swear before Kibaki...mkigeuka' Free Education...mkigeuka, hakuna PEOPLE'S PRESIDENT'S SWEARING...mkigeuka, sent back from AU in Addis Ababa...mkigeuka, RETURN TO SENDER FROM ABUJA...Hamtulii jama

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Irene Kondile....Dont annoy people more than they are ...You are rubbing salt to an injury...Ati Kibaki is offering ...offering us what...This man has raped us...How do you forgive one who has raped you...unless you are a woman who was already too willing....There is nothing a rapist can offer you except shame

Ivy

Tobias said...

Derooo, deroo, deroo,

If it is an issue of flash backs in 2002 when Raila stepped aside to let Kibaki run for president, was he not hailed as njamba by kikuyus? What happened afterwards? Do you remember of any instance in Kenyan history that the kikuyu have supported anyone other than their own?


You bunch are the most selfish self centred individuals with a misplaced superiority complex never seen before. I must say you are the only people I know of that openly support thieving, how sad. You and your fellow thief Irene are a waste of space, there is absolutely no excuse for you.

Anonymous said...

OH MY AREN'T WE BEING VERY DEFENCE!! DID ANYONE SAY YOU POSTED IT?? I SAID IT WAS HANDED TO ME BY A PNU MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT!!! TO ME ME UNDERSTAND WHY PNU IS NOT INTERESTED IN POWER-SHARING AND HIS VIEW WAS(at least one man who stands alone in the PNU jungle) that PNU was using delaying tactic to frustrate Annan so that he can leave- this PNU MP's main worry was the blood birth PNU is Planning!!!

Irene you must be a PNU MP !!why then jump so high when I mentioned the master plan given by PNU MP you thought it was YOU????


Irene Kondile said...

@Anon 5.21, I did not post that manifesto, you filthy lying snake, shetani pepo mbaya, two horned viper, shady chameleon. In the words of Kenyatta, you will know hapa hakuna macheso!.
This is what I posted

Anonymous said...

Again IRENE QUITE REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD TO REPEAT FROM PNU MASTER PLAN- WE ALL KNOW THE PLAN KNOW

THE ONLY RAPES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN KENYA ARE FROM YOUR BROTHERS MUNGKIKI GANGS RAPING EVEN 6 YEAR OLD CHILDREN (A RITUAL) THEY CLAIM!!!

Lustly, for the male chauvinists woh have have asked me to be raped, I want to say that how can I be raped and I represent Kenyans? Not all of us voted for ODM. How can ODM ask for me to be raped why the lost the erections?
This will not be!

Yours Faithflly
Irene Kondile

deroo said...

Ivy, Kibaki is toaring sadaka to ODM. Yaani, anadonate post to ODM. You have been begging for posts and he has offered them to you.

Now, if the PM's post is powerless (read ceremonial), what will the deputies be? I am looking for that word. Deputy to the Inspector of Ministries Najib Balaba (whose cousin lost in the Mayoral Elections) said ...

We have had it all about change and ODM dictatorship. ODM Pentagon which approves electoral posts that members vie, allowed Najib Balala's cousin to vie for the MAYORSHIP and for one year we have been hearing about change.

Kumbe hao ni wale wale!!

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Bloggers please ignore Derek, he is not worth the time!!!!! I wonder where his friend Vikii, let him go sort with the Ukambani MPs and see if they could settle their people there ...He is like a boil...U know what i mean...Dont loose your sleep coz of him

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE I JUST READ THE PNU MASTER PLAN!!NO WONDER IRENE AND DEROO ARE ON HERE REPEATING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL THEY NOW BELIEVE IN THE LIES THAT THEY WERE GIVEN BY THE PNU MACHINE TO REPEAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!
KENYANS THEY HAVE BECOME ZOMBIES!AND THEY WILL STILL SING THE SAME SONG EVEN IF YOU PUSHED THEM OVER A BRIDGE!!

GO READ THE PNU MASTER PLAN POSTED ON HERE CAREFULLY- THEN THE IRENE 'S POST SHOULD NOT SURPRISE YOU!!

THEY ARE TOLED TO REPEAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN-!!

Anonymous said...

Kenyans are living in the worst Dictatorship- that of one Emilio the thief Kibaki and his concubine Karua......
We however are not stupid , all things that are done in darkness shall come to light.....
We shall overcome these arrogant fools- soon and ver soon irrespective of whatever nonsence they beleive or say...

Anonymous said...

In response to Derek at 5:18. clearly you lack any kinf of common sense and will obviously never be half the man your mother was. Keep acting like fault lies with ODM in this crisis and perhaps you'll gain some intelligence in purgatory.

Anonymous said...

just read PNU MASTER PLAN!!!!VERY WORRYING- did you people read this passage in the PNU master plan????

"""""Make tribal clashes look REALLY BAD AND BARBARIC. Let everyone frown on the primitive nature associated with it in this day and age."""

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ISN'T THIS WHAT MARTHA KARUA repeated on BBC interview???? IN jANUARY??

Anonymous said...

So what is the problem of Najib's brother vying for a position as a mayor, is he not Kenyan? Kibaki toaring sadaka to who? Us or you

Anonymous said...

THIS IS A PART FROM PNU MASTER PLAN?? ISN'T THIS HAPPENING IN LANGATA CONSTITUENCY ALREADY WITH LIVONDO? so it was planned all along!!



""""Get folks in ALL suspicious ODM areas where the vote was stolen in favor of ODM to file petitions in court. Prevail on the courts to move with speed and urgency to nullify the elections if the voters are indeed dead or could not have voted. This is a public safety issue and public security. Give it top priority."""""



KENYANS SERIOUSLY THIS PEOPLE HAVE SICK MINDS THEY NEED TO BE PUT AWAY FOR GOOD!!!

deroo said...

Is Najib's brother not related to Najib. That is not Ukabila? So the post of Mayor of Mombasa is not a family affair. So, it is right when it happens within ODM and not when an appointment is made to serve the country. The only worry is that Najib's cousing was a sure winner, given the ODM hegemony in Mombasa where his cousin who sits in the armophous Pentagon is MP. If it was Mwaki Kibaki's distant relative, you could all be spitting feathers now. Anyway, God is Great, he lost.

Kibaki is toaring sadaka to ODM, he is ceding to accomnodate the pleas of ODM
-Derek-

deroo said...

That Master Plan is hogwash. Rumours, porojo, DOMO, payukaring. Like all others this one is bound to drop straight on its face.

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Hey kenyans isn't this happening now!!i mean the training of police??? i think this plan was followed like a bible!!!



PNU Action Point - Increase the Police Force
It’s a known fact that in Kenya, the police and armed forces in general are seriously outnumbered per capita (to the general public) going by world standards. Hire extensively and fast track police training to maintain peace.

deroo said...

Talk to you another day. Irene, you made my day. Their attacks forced me to reply some posts. I had not intended to tell them off today. See you laters...

Anonymous said...

kenyans this they did in a big way remember???


Action Point -

Demonize Majimbo
Make MAJIMBO synonymous with VIOLENCE and discrimination and an excuse for wanton destruction of life and property. Mount similar campaigns like those by ODM and condemn violence and insist on peace and amicable resolution of disputes in courts. Get all the top-guns to go for peace and ONE nation, One Country under the rule of law NOT lawless disputes on the streets as rallying points. Always mention Majimbo on the same sentence with Raila, Ruto and Chaos and loss of life.
Show that it is a hate campaign designed to bring chaos.

Anonymous said...

When you need to be resettled somewhere, there is something called humility which apparently the likes of Derro and Martha are missing coz they are in the comforts of Nrb or wherever, oblivious of the suffering of their people.....So they can afford to rant and rave as much as they like...Kibaki clinging on to power means one thing.....He is a ceremonial president holed up in statehouse still thinking of building houses in RV, it is not possible....There is nothing you can do you can never stay where you are not welcomed....the executive powers that he has will not allow his kinsmen to leave anywhere in Western, RV, Nyanza let him pray that the Coast people will not say watu wabara waende....Kiema /Kilonzo have said Eastern is small for them so hawataki wageni......You remember what happened in Bungoma...it is a bukusu territory the likes of Derro think they voted for Kibaki, yet they dared chased a town clerk from Nyeri.....Derro it doesn't matter who won at the moment we are a country at the crossroad and your chest thumping is not resettling your people...you should be praying to God that these talk pass so that your kinsmen can at least have a place to call home, now that Central can't hold all of them.....I am sober here ...THINK DERRO THINK....I can forgive Kondile she is new here on Kumekucha

Ivy

Anonymous said...

ha!!ha!!ha!!ha!!!did you people read PNU master plan posted on here ha!!!ha!!! I can't stop laughing does Kilonza know that he is being used and it was in the plans from before to give PNU a good image after they rigged!!!ha!!ha!! this is indeed hilarious!!!!

PNU MASTER PLAN #4
Keep the GEMA group in crucial supportive roles behind the scenes. Kamba and other non-GEMA tribes to be seen leading the imitative but not prominent in its formation. Have GEMA 100% behind Kalonzo with Western Kenya, Coast, N. Eastern and Rift Valley prominent in the new unity outfit.




Kalonzo should take that lead with public blessings of the president. With KANU left as a skeleton, a single strong united party, extremely disciplined should be the force required to confront ODM in the coming and inevitable battles in parliament and public Perception.

Anonymous said...

Derek and Irene.

Forgive those who eat,drink ,sleep and dream Raila.

Now the chickens have come home to roast.

No kibaki no Kenya

if they cannot take what is on offer let them hang!

Ati Kibaki stole!

ANY ONE OUT THERE WHO CAN PROVE WITH RAW FIGURES AND NOT EMPTY TALK BY HOW MANY VOTES KIBAKI STOLE AND HOW MANY RAILA VOTES " WON"??????

BOTH RIGGED BUT ONE RIGGED BETTER PERIOD.

Anonymous said...

DEREK SORRY NOT SO THIS TIME AN MP IS READY TO GO AGAINST HIS PARTY BECAUSE OF THIS MASTER PLAN- IT IS THAT SERIOUS- YOU CAN WISH IT AWAY - BUT ANY FOOL CAN SEE PNU HAS DONE MOST OF THE THINGS IN THE MASTER PLAN- AND YOU WERE CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN!!!!


Blogger deroo said...

That Master Plan is hogwash. Rumours, porojo, DOMO, payukaring. Like all others this one is bound to drop straight on its face.

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Kumekucha forgive these two people...Now you see if Irene & Derro you were live ...Someone would have stoned you by now....Picking a cue from you Derro let this hardworking kenyan go to work

Anonymous said...

OOPS !!ANOTHER PNU DESPERATE FOOL REPEATING THE MASTER PLAN MANIFEST!!
HEY STOP- WE KNOW WHAT WILL SPEW FROM YOUR MOUTH BEFORE YOU EVEN SPEAK ZOMBIE- you were trained to repeat the some sentences well:):)

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Derek and Irene.

Phil said...

Derek,

I had initially promised myself not to respond to your persistent antics and insulting comments that you are predictably so good at, but this cannot go unchallenged.

I DID NOT EVER SAY RAILA HAS GONE TO RSA. Please check my post and confirm what was published before coming here to spew PNU nonsense.

I consider your baptising my comments NYATANGA an insult. Just like your PNUist president, who I maintain has always been a FRAUD since 2003, YOU have continued to stoop so low in looking down upon the opinions of others on this forum because you think you are a MR-know-it-all when it comes to matters of Kenya politics. While I respect your freedom of political choice and ethnic origin, I do not think anyone has to stoop as low as you always have to in order to prove that you disagree with the contents of my post/comments. Unless of course you have a personal vendetta that you seem to have carried forward from last year.

Secondly, why you keep reading and commenting on my so-called NYATANGA articles as if I am the only publisher here. If you find them so nyatangish, why bother? I have a hunch you find the truth in them so brutal for your PNUist heart! No wonder you cant just help it but respond with insults!

Thirdly, I realise that ever since Chris gave us the privilege of posting articles on this forum, YOU have hardly added any value by way of reporting or analysing news, apart from that tired old line of kazi (ya uizi ya mali ya uma na kura) iendelee. You never miss a chance to tell off any one who criticizes Kibaki or his regime but you never also bother to say or articulate what he is good.

Fourthly, you may have realised my nyatangish rumours as you call them always have hyperlinks that I use as reference to my commentaries. Perhaps if you bothered to click on these links you would understand their nyatangaish relevance to what I post and you would henceforth show some appreciation.

Lastly and sadly, DEROO, I do not know you and do not wish to interact with you whatsoever. I just wish you would treat people (especially those who write in favour of ODM/Raila) with some respect. Perhaps you could try and persuade them in civil language why you think they are backing the wrong horse rather than trash everything that anyone tries to put across.

FYI - I have very credible sources for the all the stories you see me publishing here. For instance, if you check records here, I do not need to tell YOU that I published the possibility of a GRAND COALITION here while you were still smarting (far away in the UK winter) from Kibaki's open theft of votes in January. Not even your mainstream press knew anything about it then. And I can quote many other worthy predictions!

NO WONDER VOTES HAD TO BE STOLEN FOR KIBAKI TO REMAIN IN POWER!

Phil said...

May be it is because I had the nerve to expose some of our overzealous NSIS visitors to this blog.

deroo said...

NO QUALMS PHIL. NO INSULTS. POLE. I THINK I POINTED OUT THE LOOPHOLES IN RECENT POSTS. YOU TALKED ABOUT MUSALIA AND I NOTED THAT IT WAS NOT IN WHAT WAS IN TODAY'S PAPER (STANDARD). IT WAS WRITTEN THAT RAO TRAVELLED TO SA THEN ON A CHARTER PLANE TO ABUJA. IT EMERGED THAT THE MAN HIMSELF DENIED SO. HE WAS REPORTED TO HAVE BEEN DENIED ACCES TO SEE THE NIGERIA PRESIDENT. I DID NOT SAY THAT. HE DENIED IT.

AS FOR THE PERSONAL ATTACKS, PLEASE JUST AVOID. THEY DONT COUNT AT ALL. LET US NOT REDUCE IT TO MB/SO. RESPECT. SORRY FOR ANY MISCONTRUED BELIEF.

PERSONAL TO PHIL (NO PARTY INVITED)---I AM SORRY ABOUT IT. I HOPE IT IS SETTLED. SAWA.

REGARDS
DEREK

Phil said...

Derek,

Let get serious for once and stop this mashada-ish type of commentaries on this blog.

As it is, this country is in a mess because of the attitudes that are so evident in this blog. It is as if some Kenyans do not have a right to democratically compete for political power.

How can you judge what I said about Musalia to be leader of a transitional government to be UNTRUE if the real agreement has not been released by Annan? Are you judging me on the basis of whats published in the Nation/Standard website. FYI, ever since Dec 30, I hardly bother to buy/read Kenyan newspapers (they are part of the conspiracy to defraud Kenyan citizens).

As I told you before, I have my sources that I trust whole heartedly..

Watch this space.

Omundu-khu-mundu said...

the only way out is to have a "lesotho", the sooner the better for the rest of us kenyans

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vipi said...

IT appears to me the PNU action Plan has not been full realised coz ODM-K itself is unraveling...

these guys think kenyans are fools proper jokers

ODM seems to be more media savvy and MK has not been seen in public for days at least RAO is visible...


give me a brake ati ...

"...This is serious business to be executed corporate style. No roadside or broadside statement declarations. No statement to be issued unless approved by the core think-tank. It’s a high stakes game by very senior management professionals...."

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Anonymous said...

When you have someone shagging a supposedly celibate priest leading the negotiations what do you imagine will come out of it. She does not even respect GODs property!

mrembowaodm said...

first and foremost odmers you do not need to respond to the likes of irene....you just get angry and move on....please stay above that!!

there are people who are here to demonise odm in anyway they can, they will post the most outrageous posts just so that you can respond to their insults....you will never win against such people!!!

anon 4.10 i absolutely agree with you if the maumau and others did not fight for the freedom of this country we would still be under colonial rule!! so it is upon odm to decide whether they are willing to accept a dictatorial thieving imposter or whether they are willing to make things right for this country.

atis at 4.30, i tell you theres no need to wait till 2012, martha karua and michuki are the presidents of this country at least by proxy...honestly kibaki?...does anyone think he can lead anyone?..aii...!!
secondly, dont even hold your breath, by the end of this year people will be asking 'kalonzo who?' it is the pnu way....use them and dump them!! it has worked so well in the past...tuju who? haha!!

lastly i agree with 6.16 on the demonisation of majimbo, even before the elections every single forum and interview martha karua attended in her 'presidential capacity' was about ethnic balkanisation...pnu demonised majimbo so much..especially that karua!! telling all kikuyus that they will be forced back to central province should odm come into power....the events after elections have just reinforced their evil plans...

sorry to say but i i will not be suprised at all to find out that pnu kikuyus in rv burnt their own houses to underscore the 'evilness of the majimbo system'

by the way what happened to kalooser's majimbo? si he was also pro-majimbo? is that dream forgotten? gone? dead and buried like his political career? oooo..pole kwake

mrembowaodm said...

anonymous 7.10 haha!!

Taabu said...

Derro you know as I do that you can better than joining in the ecstasy of one Irene Kondile. Not that she is any less a blogger but the juvenile excitement is inexcusable brother. You don't have to go personal on Phil, we come along way here haven't we?

Sometimes silenc hits harder than shouting and you are about polityical TOUTING, so why would you miss the gravy train? Well for teh records you have sorted it out with Phil but I think you need to do more and you know better how to. Your retraction is no better than a snide. I don't think you must tag a post Nyatanga even if you disagree. You have the opportunity to publish yours and why wait to critique without any original output for the same?

Finally shout and scream if you must but don't try to outdo the host lest.....It is no more than engaging in REVERSE LOGIC.

Anonymous said...

the PNU MP who passed on the master plan is indeed very scared so are others in the PNU party he said- some of then have relatives in the Rift Valley like he said and are not ready for another blood bath!!
one comment he through was that PNU hardliners told them to sing and repeat the ethnic cleansing slogan and genocide to their constituencies, but now too late he realised they created monsters!!what do next- I think you will see a break away in the KNU MPS FROM THE RIFT VALLEY WE ARE NOW SAYING UHURU USED THEM!!
WATCH THIS SPACE!!

Anonymous said...

US Warns Kibaki

"I want to emphasise that the future of our relationship with both sides and their legitimacy hinges on their cooperation to achieve this political solution."

She added: "In that regard, we are exploring a wide range of possible actions. We will draw our own conclusions about who is responsible for lack of progress and take necessary steps.

"We will also exert leadership with the United Nations, the African Union, the European Union, and others to ensure that the political solution the Kenyan people deserve is achieved."

US Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice

Dr. Rice's message in plain English:

"I want to emphasise that the future of our relationship with KIBAKI and HIS legitimacy hinges on HIS cooperation to achieve this political solution."

She added: "In that regard, we are exploring a wide range of possible actions. We will draw our own conclusions about KIBAKI'S INTRANSIGENCE and take necessary steps.

"We will also exert leadership with the United Nations, the African Union, the European Union, and others to ensure that the political solution the Kenyan people deserve is achieved." – In other words, KENYANS WILL GET JUSTICE KIBAKI APENDE ASIPENDE!

http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgnews.asp?categoryid=1

Anonymous said...

What PNU dimwits don't get is that if Kibaki did indeed win the 2007elections, why is he being forced to share power yet he was sworn in and is the head of state as per their beloved constitution.

Condi Rice's statement say it all, "We will also exert leadership with the United Nations, the African Union, the European Union, and others to ensure that the political solution the Kenyan people deserve is achieved."



Lionel Messi

Anonymous said...

GOOD POINT- BUT IF YOU READ THIER MASTER PLAN- THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO REPEAT - ON BLOGS- IN THE NEWS- IN INTERVIEW- TO THEIR CONSTITUENCIES- TO THE VILLAGER IT IS CALLED BRAIN WASHING PEOPLE HILTER STYLE REMEMBER HISTORY??

""SALUTE HERR HITLER""
repeat Germans are more pure and superior- kill the Jew's! this is what is happening in Kenya- YOU HAVE SEEN AND READ EVERYWHERE EVEN THE REPORT HANDED TO PRIME MINISTER BROWN STARTED BY THE KIKUYU DIASPORA IN LONDON THAT THE KIKUYU'S ARE MORE SUPERIOR OTHER TRIBES ARE JEALOUS AND LAZY OF THEM!!


Anonymous Anonymous said...

What PNU dimwits don't get is that if Kibaki did indeed win the 2007elections, why is he being forced to share power yet he was sworn in and is the head of state as per their beloved constitution.

Anonymous said...

kibaki should realise that this is not about him.

This is about the people of Kenya. We are tired of being ruled by a giant of an executive.

We need to ammend the constitution NOW for a better tomorrow.

Today it's Kibaki who is dictating. Tomorrow?

Anonymous said...

domo domo ODM domo!!

man u ODM guys neve get tired of running your mouths ?

Anonymous said...

no we dont get tired and we wont till your thieving relative is out of statehouse!!

Anonymous said...

ODM guys- u should look for a job blowing trumpets in the army band, your mouths will be put to full use.

Kibaki aint leaving statehouse, sorry, lakini mtazoea, vumilia tu for another 5 years, then you can try again in 2012, ok ?
sawa.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:13 ...LOL

No one is removing him fron statehouse he can stay there forever with the madwoman who will want to stay in a jinxed house anyway? Better half a loaf with peace than a full loaf that you can't eat
Ivy

Anonymous said...

tru @IVY

His woman is mad. I think she is drunk with power.

It's going to be a while before kenya gets a real respectable first lady.

My theory is that I think Lucy kibaki represents the old ways of thinking. she is not media savy at all and comes out as crude, belligerent and vindictive, a bad image for a first lady.

I'm a PNU supporter lakini let's be honest, that bibi does not help kibaki or kenya one bit.

But how the hell did MOI stay all those years without the wife? did anyone ever see her ? does anyone know how she looked ?
and why did he lock her up under house arrest?

I've heard rumors about some incident with kenyatta, but what are the real facts, anyone know ?

Anonymous said...

anon @ 11:00am Moi was man enough, that's only where I give him his due credit, plus the guy to a certain extent had a semblance of a heart despite his crude ways. He never stepped into a college classroom (Read-Makerere and LSE) but was from the school of hardknocks that taught him how to be a "gentleman" compared to this goon, if you ask me. How the hell does he think he will rule for 5 years from behind closed doors, guess that education never paid off that much in the end.

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