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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Breaking News: Two ODM Ministers Die in Air Crash

Unconfirmed news just in indicate that Minister for Roads Kipkalya Kones and Assistant Minister in Office of the Vice President Lorna Laboso both of the Orange Democratic Movement are reportedly feared dead in an air crash together with pilot in the Narok area.

More information to be published as police releases more details.

Update 17h45 Kenya Time:

Kenya TV news channels flashing breaking news.

Kones and Laboso, together with their pilot are feared dead. Light aircraft went down in Enoosupukia 100km from Narok Town. The duo were in the area to campaign for ODM candidates in tomorrow's by-elections in Kilgoris and Ainamoi.

Update 18h00 Kenya Time

Kipkalya Kones and Lorna Laboso have NOW BEEN CONFIRMED DEAD.

Kenya Police also confirm that plane went down at 14h00 local time.

It is still unknown how many passengers were on the aircraft.

Salim Lone confirms that the plane left Wilson Airport for Kericho campaigns.

The incident is has thrown ODM into a spin and Lone has described it as a devastating blow to the party and too bad to be true.

Update: 18h14

Police are at the scene of the air crash. There are no survivors. There has been bad weather in the lower Rift Valley area and the aircraft is reported to have crashed on a hillside.

ODM Captain, Prime Minister Raila Odinga is reportedly at a unknown location and said 'to be badly shaken' and cannot be raised on his cellphone.

Update: 18h25

Narok Officer Commanding Police Division (OCPD) Patrick Wambani confirms from the scene of the crash that there were three passengers of African descent plus one white Caucasian. The fourth African passenger is being assumed to be Kones' bodyguard.

Country in shock as police confirm deaths. Police suspect bad weather or mechanical fault as cause of plane crash. Raila and his wife Ida are said to be badly shaken by the news.

There has not been official government statement as at the time of going to press.


Update by Chris


What Is Going On?

The first question Kenyans must ask themselves is why two cabinet ministers were riding in the same plane. Basic common sense tells you that you never do that.

Somebody needs to answer that question before we discuss anything else about the death of the two ministers earlier today.

Still what has happened has happened and cannot be reversed. The right approach now is to remain calm as we await answers.

My hope is that the ministers did not die in vain and that Kenyans will now wake up to the full implications of the Kibaki succession and what it entails, knowing our politicians and those who make money from politics.

Update: 20h05 Kenya Time

Raila has read condolences on behalf of the ODM. Raila was flanked by the ODM top brass including, Ruto, Ntimama, Mudavadi and others.

ODM is urging it supporters to remain calm.

The party is also saying the by-elections scheduled for tomorrow should not be postponed and that wananchi should come out it large numbers to vote for ODM candidates.

Update: 20h30 Kenya Time

ODM top brass, reeling from the shocking tragedy, are reported to be locked in closed-door meeting. A statement is expected later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Some party officials have been dispatched to go and console the families of the deceased ministers.

The ODM statement is expected to shed more light about the ministers' ill fated trip and also about the condition of the aircraft which this blogger has been informed has been previously chartered for campaign purposes by ODM officials, actually as recently as this past weekend.

Update: 21h00

Bodies of the deceased are still lying at the crash site nearly eight hours after the crash. A parliamentary committee led by Hon. William Ruto has been set up by government and are expected to accompany a high powered government security team that is expected to travel to Narok early tomorrow morning to commence investigations and retrieve the bodies of the ministers.

127 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh no OH NO! What the hell is going on?

Nyakamlago said...

What a major blow to ODM once again! This is becoming unbearable!

Anonymous said...

THIS IS UTTERLY DEVASTATING...WHY THE ODM MPS' I ASK!!!!

Anonymous said...

Condolences to family and ODM family. Indeed unbelievable at this juncture!

Anonymous said...

Not again! My heartfelt condolences to the families of Mr. Kones and Ms. Lorna Loboso RIP.

Anonymous said...

Not again! I'm still mesmerised to say the least. Haven't watched any tv yet but is really true? Believe me tiz very devastating

Anonymous said...

oh god what a disaster


UrXlnc

Anonymous said...

And it begins....!

Anonymous said...

This is a sad day for Kenya. We have lost 2 great leaders.

My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the departed at this difficult and shocking moment.

It is hard, but, this too will pass.

Anonymous said...

Malipo ni hapa hapa duniani.....

Anonymous said...

#1 Today 11:30:30- ex NSIS Insider

Do you know who planned to be at Wilson on hired plane leo heading for Kericho??

*** Original plans was some certain MP's to meet at Wilson headed to Kericho and just go hand shaking to show unity. plans were shelved Mon evenign for a different approach.

certain MP from Eldoret
certain MP from Langata
certain MP from Sabatia
certain MP from Kitui
certain MP from Mombasa

plans changed at last minute. that is why the certain people are badly shaken. somebody (unknown tribal forces) in govt wants to maliza kabisa.

dont quote me. i'm out.

Anonymous said...

BREAKING NEWS: Kibaki ordered Kenya Military to shoot down the plane. He feared the ODM candidate would win the by-elections.

Anonymous said...

I believe there is something sinister going on...FOR CRYING OUT LOUD ODM LEADERS DO NOT, DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE ANY OF THE "OTHER SIDES" FORM OF TRANSPORT OR ANYTHING OF THEIRS FOR THAT MATTER. THIS IS NOT BEYOND THEM...PLEASE!!!!

I REPEAT, I SENSE SINISTER ALL OVER THIS. THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!!!

Anonymous said...

hey anon 8:33 and 8:38, not doubting the credibilty of your resources and its also very strange that ODM should lose MPs like this but please lets not be seen as alarmist. lets find a way to bring irrefutable evidence so that its clear for all to see and not be assumed to be speculation

Anonymous said...

-Forwarded from ex-NSIS Insider-

kericho trip was to be delayed for the TEAM to leave together after KICC launch. On mon evening, plans were shelved. but this news did not filter to THE ENEMY OTHERS.

Anonymous said...

8:38...please emotions are very high right now, I do believe there's something fishy going on!!
Can you substantiate what you're saying....Ex NSIS you too please!!
Chris, Phil, plz communicate....

Anonymous said...

How many times has PHIL mentioned that there have been numerous attempts to finish ODM pentagon members?

Just 10 days ago, Phil revisited this issue. Why I'm I not surprised.

The people Kenya is dealing with are not a joke. Its not a joke that Phil had to run away/go under!

Anonymous said...

Someone made a comment...Malipo ni hapa hapa duniani..

It would be nice if he expounds on what he means by that.....

Anonymous said...

8:45 What is "THE ENEMY OTHERS"

Anonymous said...

how come no PNU MP has been hit by tragedy, hi ni uwongo

pnu is assassinating odm mps, and those who doubted chris had better rethink their rantings in light of this tragedy

Anonymous said...

were RAO and Ida supposed to be on that plane? or any other pentagon member? even tragedy is now selective just like justice has been served selectively against ODM

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 8.33... if members of the Pentagon were to be on that flight and they changed their plans at the last minute and the plane has gone and crashed killing all on board, then that explains why there has been no word coming from them (they must be extremely shaken to say the least) and also no word from the government - almost 5 hours later - they must be guilty as hell! This is TOO MUCH!

Anonymous said...

What are the chances that STRAY BULLERS and HELICOPTER CRASHES only meet one side of the political divide? What are the ODDs of that happening?

Some of us observers here are not fools you know. Phil is miles ahead in his analysis of Kenya. All some of us do is read between the lines, cross analyze with future scenarios and we conclude.

Anonymous said...

How could they shelve the plans and not let others know? That's fishy too. The Kipsigis should cut off ties with ODM and their dirty tricks. They were short changed in government appointments, and now this!

Anonymous said...

Those who shelved plans did so to do another strategy approach. Focus was to be moved to Wajir as Ainamoi had become secure in terms of votes. Everybody knew plans changed. But I think what the NSIS person is saying, whomever (if there was any) carried this heineous maintenance-rigging act was not informed that the PRIME targets they wanted were not going to be on board. Is this not what PHIL said indirecctly 10 days ago. PHIL, you must be privy to very sensitive information on what was going to happen. Somebodies were to be stopped before they make an important trip abroad where it would become clear who the powers that be side with. Fill the blanks!

Anonymous said...

This government of national unity should be disbanded immediately and fresh elections called... The current state of affairs cannot be expected to continue like this indefinitely! Some people will stop at nothing to achieve absolute power. WASHINDWE!

Anonymous said...

remember kibakis parting shot at the NSE when he told MPs who are fronting for opposition, he said "tomorrow you might be a minister"

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/Local/Parliament-resumes-work-after-break.html

as we know this article may be pulled down from the capital fm website so I've made a permanent image

I do not take this lightly because its the same nonchalant way he said elections will be over and life will continue

Anonymous said...

We have devils in this cabinet i tell you, attempting to get rid of the pentagon is something that should NEVER be attempted in this country. We the Kenyans will arise & shake every corner of this country should they attempt it again!!
Yes the panuers in this blog like a lot of domo what do they have to say now???
...A DAY & TIME IS COMING WHERE THEY WILL STAND THE GREATEST TRIAL OF ALL..BEFORE ONE GREATEST MAN OF ALL TIMES & EXPLAIN THESE KILLINGS, JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED, ONE DAY!!!

Anonymous said...

Guys,i know emotions are high and that nerves are on the egde,but lets remember one thing,moments like these will make or break our mnation.
Someone warned that the Annan brokered peace would not last and that only God would bring lasting peace in kenya.
Many of us have clearly sneered at such remarks but you never can tell.
So,if just a few of u who understand what am trying to say can just say a silent prayer for our nation,it would be much better than spreading messages that instill suspicion and fear among Kenyans.
My condolences to the families of all those who perished in the crash.
It would be really kind to acknowledge the fact that 5 people perish and that the families of the bodyguards feel as much pain and loss as the families of the politicians do.
God bless Kenya!

Anonymous said...

9:05 AM
I heard him say those words & took note of those words...
what the hell is going on?
Thank you for bringing that out...THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

9:08 am, Seconded.
May they rest in peace & God grant peace and comfort to their loved ones'

Anonymous said...

PHIL does a great job here as he gives us the raw meat for us to digest. Some of us look at if on face value. Others look at it deeper and immediately see patterns and trends.

My sixth sense tells me there is maddenning paranoia at somebody's delegation heading abroad next week. Something had to be done and it was to be done at all costs.

However, those whom are in the know are probably operating always with one side open for any eventualities. In this case, it was SIR GOD who saved them.

Heartfelt condelences to those others who have been.

Now lets make one assumption. Assuming PHIL is wrong and this was not targetting the PRIME crew, then we ask this question: The Minister was responsible for which docket? This same docket is know for which shadowy characters? What did the Minister do recently that made these characters mad and poor?

Looking at it deeper, you see the patterns and intents and understand what is happening.

Anonymous said...

Its true, instead of speculating and/or rushing to judgement without a whisker of a fact, it would be appropriate to condole with the affected families.
What a loss, and we had only just started to get to know Lorna Laboso. WHAT A LOSS!

Anonymous said...

NTV confirms story that the plane did not have enough FUEL to make the trip OR its FUEL leaked out as it was flying.

Ati it crashed on into a house and there was no fire after the crash since fuel tank was completely empty.

ngataa ilikatika

#2 Today 12:13:48
annonymous Member

Re: NTV Dennis onsarigo from kerich - Aircraft fuel tank was drainedGumzo, police man from Eld reconfirmed the story to me.

Anonymous said...

it is said that only a fool believes in coincidence

this is meant to scare ODM aspirants and MPs and cow them into submission.

it is no coincidence that kibaki said elections will be over and life is back as usual (with him at the helm) and after much trouble it has happened

it is no coincidence that kibaki said he will form a coalition govt of all parties and it has come to be

it is no coincidence that in order for PNU to garner majority in parliament ODM numbers need to be reduced through death and so far 4 ODM MPs have lost their lives through anything but natural causes.

somebody needs to tell us whats going on

Anonymous said...

@9:08, Amen to that! People need to calm down and pray for the families of everyone aboard that flight. Conspiracy theories won't take us anywhere. It is a sad day for all Kenyans.

Anonymous said...

NTV has confirmed. Just called home and got the news. The Plane Chopper had not enough FUEL to fly to Narok (15 mins by plane).

Did I not say PHIL is smart and to the point. He knows whats happening even before things take execution shape.

My question is: Will the PRIMe targets still make the trip abroad next week?

Anonymous said...

all you ODM guys are dunderheads. You are already running around like fools conclusively talking about assassinations without a slight inkling of what happened...sort of like you ran amok screaming stolen elections without a shred of evidence that elections had been rigged.

this is classic Karma, and more to come....

Anonymous said...

9:12 AM, either way some people are not comfortable with the ODM in government in whatever capacity.
Pentagon, ODM Mps' or councillors any plan to eliminate anyone of them based on their affiliation to the party, for whatever reason, is just as evil!!

Anonymous said...

and the pilot did not know there was no fuel? what are the gauges supposed to be for? or are we saying that someone punctured a hole in the gas tank? e.g like with a bullet

Anonymous said...

Does STRAY BULLETS and CHOPPER CRASHES only know one side of the politcal divide? PHIL, we agree with you. Most Kenyans (except from one place) are not FOOLS!

Anonymous said...

anon 9:20 you are a classic imbecile

Anonymous said...

How can a mzungu trained pilot not know there was fuel. It must have been there. But what he did not expect probably was the maintenance rigging that happened. Somebody may have added water to the fuel tank or other liquid. Or someobody may have punctured a small hole which when flying would enlargen and drain most of the fuel.

Anonymous said...

the second anon 9:20, not the first, is a classic imbecile

Anonymous said...

PNU wants to rig the elections, so they assasinated ODM MPs to divert attention from Kivuitu and his team.

Kibaki is pushing ODM to the limits knowing very well that they cannot cause any violence at this crucial moment in Kenyan history.

PNU fears an ODM majority in parliament and they will do whatever it takes to prevent ODM from capturing more seats.

The aim was to kill the pentagon team as you know the govt security team knows the pentagons every move especially now that they are in the govt. Since the govt security men are in charge of security, its very easy to plot an assassination. Thats exactly what happened.

Wanjiku Unlimited said...

Sad day for Kenya indeed. Sincere condolences to the families of those who perished and the ODM fraternity as a whole.

Anonymous said...

ANON 9:28 AM.

I agree with you. PHIL's post some days ago is what has kept me thinking. In one of the blogs, PHIL did ask: What one single action would reduce any intense pressure from Keguoya and THE OTHERS?

He did not answer himself but left it for us to Jijazie.

Take out the ODM Pentagon, and someone in SH can sleep fofo until 2012, someone in Harambee House will have an easy succession plan, and somepeople in Treasury will eat public resources like no tomorrow.

PHIL- yours is one of the most informative sites in Kenya's political history. Kudos to you!

Anonymous said...

May God give solace to their kith and kin.

My theory is that the same imps that went about preaching that everyone wanted kuyos dead are not done yet........loosing leaves a bitter taste.

I have info that kuyos have been arming themselves.....someone is creating a false sense of insecurity to trigger a war.....

many thoughts go to my head......
kalooser can only be preso if kibz dies in office......and RAO is silenced.

him or should I say those that are using him may have calculated that.......Kibz is a dead horse he is already past his sell by date. A kuyo may mot make it to be president.......other leaders seem like they can change their alligence depending on what is put on the table......

Start a war RAO dies, kibz is killed in revange attack...cost is clear

Watch out for Museveni you may hear something about uganda soon.

mungiki beheading someone in eldi the heart of kales was meant to start an uprising.....

I think someone is trying to trigger people to go out and protest then like they did before use thugs/police to quell the violence.......

kenya was settling and ODM ministers are showing the difference between them and PUN loosers who have no concept of leadership or service...

Another one year of ODM service and PNU ministers would be laughing stock....they needed to do something....

Its becoming too expensive to keep some people in this country and call them our people its time to make a decision and break away before we waste our lives dealng with animals.

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

THIS WAS A 6-SEATER PLANE. HOW COULD HAVE RAILA BEEN ON IT WHILE HE HAS ALREADY MINIMUM 6 BODYGUARDS ACCOMPANYING HIM PLUS ALL THE OTHERS NORMALLY BEING IN HIS ENTOURAGE. STOP THIS NONSENSE THAT HE WAS THE REAL TARGET AND SOMEBODY PLANNED ALL THIS. WHICH IDIOT HERE EVEN HINTED THAT THEY DRILLED A HOLE INTO THE TANK? FACT IS, THERE WAS BAD WHEATHER AND THE PILOT DID NOT MAKE THE NECESSARY CHECK-UPS BEFORE TAKE-OFF.

Anonymous said...

anon 9:44, how do you know that?

Anonymous said...

First of all, may I pass my sincere heartfelt condolences to the families that lost their loved ones. Poleni sana na Mungu awalaze mahali pema peponi.

Secondly, for those that are already reading sinister moves by stating that PNU caused this need to look at the various factors that.

Poor weather.- Hiyo ni self explanatory. Blame Maulana.

Sabotage.- For the last two weeks, the flights that have been leaving for Kilgoris and Wajir have had extensive pre-flight inspections carried out not only by both times (ODM and PNU) but also Wilson airport regulators. (They did not want what happened in Marsabit a few years ago to happen again).

Luck.- This doomed flight could have gone either way. With the many flights by both teams flying to those areas there was a fifty fifty chance that mkosi ukitokea, it would have either taken the ODM group or the PNU group. By the way, if you check statistics, flights are the safest mode of transport but also the most deadly in terms of fatalities. Waititu and Pasaris have higher chances of getting into a road accident than the doomed flight.

Lets not be quick to pass judgement. Let investigations be done and then we can decide based on the findings.

Anonymous said...

When Raila campaigns, he does not go with Govt boadyguards.

Anonymous said...

anon 9:49

under normal circumstances that would be credible, but this govt and its leaders are not credible. and this is not beyond their scheming, plus we know that any vague or ambiguous event can go on to eternity because we do not have the diligence to conduct investigations. we are still waiting on investigations on Were and Too. a little further back we have Mugo and Ouko

its a culture of reckless impunity with only one answer, massive civil response

Anonymous said...

ODMites are trully emotional wrecks or unredeemable paranoids. Before even the circumstances of these peoples' deaths are clear, ODMites are already running amok screaming murder. Yes, let us moan these untimely deaths, but let us not politicize them unless bare facts warrant it.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:49. Very good. At least one person with a thinking brain on KK.

Anonymous said...

Kikuyu ni Kikuyu.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:53.

I hear you. Am also sure you have read about the different emotions that one goes thru' when tragedy hits. Shock, denial, acceptance... but being that we're in Kenya, we can easily manipulate any info that comes out. Right ?

Anonymous said...

If as some people are suggesting that some Pentagon members knew something was amiss in advance and decided to sacrifice their collegues by not telling them, then that would be CALLOUS IN THE EXTREME!! Such Pentagon members do not deserve ever to be in positions which determine the fate of the country.

Anonymous said...

To 10:02AM

Nobody suggest Pentagon Knew. Dont twist words on behald of your kikuyu mafia. What people are saying is that this is not an isolated incident. Iko kabila fulani kenya that wants to maliza the others. And this time, watu wako chonjo. Wait for responses.

Phil said...

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10390305.htm


Kenyan minister, asst minister dead in plane crash
10 Jun 2008 16:03:39 GMT
Source: Reuters
(Adds details, background, bylines)
By C. Bryson Hull and Wangui Kanina


NAIROBI, June 10 (Reuters) - A Kenyan cabinet minister and assistant minister died on Tuesday along with two others in the crash of a light plane near the Masai Mara game reserve, officials said.

Roads Minister Kipkalya Kones, 56, and Assistant Minister for Home Affairs Lorna Laboso, 47, were aboard the plane with a pilot and a security guard, a spokesman for their party said.

"I am confirming that they were on the plane that crashed. I am not confirming that they are dead, but the police are confirming that all aboard died," Orange Democratic Movement party spokesman Salim Lone said.

Narok District police boss Patrick Wambani said all four people in the plane died. There was no immediate confirmation for the cause of the crash in a remote area called Kojonga.

"The plane came down on an unoccupied house and disintegrated, killing all four occupants," Wambani told Reuters in Narok, 120 km (75 miles) west of the capital Nairobi.

In Nairobi, police spokesman Eric Kiraithe said the names of Kones and Laboso were on the flight manifest.

Both politicians were members of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) party, which had opposed President Mwai Kibaki and advocated public protests after he won a disputed re-election in December.

The vote sparked Kenya's worst violence since independence from Britain in 1963, and deal to end the political impasse brought ODM into a coalition government with Kibaki's Party of National Unity alliance.

Kones is a five-term member of parliament and was first elected in 1988, after a career as a teacher and manager at a produce firm. He has held several other ministries throughout his public career.

Laboso is a first-term legislator, who has campaigned against the cultural practice of female genital mutilation in her Kipsigis tribe.

After a career as a secretary and accountant, she got her university degree in communications last year. (Reporting by Wangui Kanina, Helen Nyambura and Bryson Hull; Editing by Jon Boyle) (For full Reuters Africa coverage and to have your say on the top issues, visit: http://africa.reuters.com/ )

Mcheku said...

This is sad. Are we back there again? This is not normal! 4 ODM MPs in 4 months?

My heartfelt condolences to the bereaved.

Anonymous said...

9:49 AM
You must be a foreigner to "Kenyan affairs" here they do not do investigations to esablish any findings, if that is your argument, explain where the findings on; JM Kariuki, Pio Gama Pinto, Ouko, Bishop Okullu, Father Kaizer, Josephat Karanja, Mugabe were, Too of Ainamoi to name just a few are? Even after their very suspicious deaths we are still awaiting those ELUSIVE conclusive findings!!
Please get your facts right, thats OLD SCHOOL, DICTATORIAL, KAZI IENDELEE kind of nonsense that Kenyans have known for almost 50 years.

Your argument is highly erroneous.
P.s, if really we had a credible justice system, why would the same man expected to investigate electoral disputes, swear in an individual even before all objections of the election are adressed, which is what the constitution demands, funny the same individual in-charge of the courts breaks that very same law he is to uphold.

Again, your argument holds no water!!!

Anonymous said...

I don't know about Kones, but Lorna deserves to be moaned. The name Kones reminds me of one of the architects of the 1992 RV tribal crashes and the patron saint of the cowboy contractors at the height of Moi's lunacy. Anyway I leave it there since I don't want to be seen as beating up on a dead person. I leave the beating and laughing to TAABU who specializes in laughing at helpless and dead Kenyans (especially the IDPs).

May Lorna's soul rest in peace!

Anonymous said...

When kales burnt kuyos in eldi the munguki did not engage them there instead they went for luos in Naivasha.
It seems to me that after '82 fiasco MO1 made sure he had enough kales in strategic positions in the military. So an outright war between kuyos and kales would have easily gone one way or would be too expensive to win. as in causualties would be too high to make the fight worthwhile.

That anger has not subsided and this may be some sort of clever revange attack. Finish them silently.

The way kuyos were caught by suprise by the kale attacks goes to show that initially they had underestimated them. Thats why kibzs ruthlessly kicked them out of jobs given by Mo1.

They wrongly concentrated their efforts in kisumu based on their usual misplaced self created imaginary enemies the luos.

This is what happens when you base your modus operendi on a lie. You find yourself at the wrong place barking up the wrong tree.

The price you pay for dishonesty and failure to see the truth even when it stands infront of you and slaps you in the face.

According to their intelligence they wanted to face off with RAO thinking kenyans were too tribal to vote a luo....turns out only them and some kaos are the only remaining tribal neanderthals.

Seems to me they think they are now ready for a war with everyone. They have plan. have you noticed that while ODM seems to have taken the plough and gone to the garden PNU is still smarting over silly thing like who is who is more supriour and what the heck is orengo doing with land.......
They are getting ready for something they cant sit the arses for a few minutes to do some service to keyans....whats their problem?

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

Payback is on the way, do you ODMites think you can kill kikuyu and get away with it. Kones fuelled tribal clashes and he deserves what he got.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly why sensible kenyans, i.e ODM was against the return of IDPs' without proper resolutions & structures.

Word on the street; Rift valley is extremely tense at this moment. A blogger here has just mentioned some "arming" going on after a recent beheading of a pastor, lord rest his soul, by mungiki in Eldoret. IDP'S SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN FORCED BACK TO THEIR HOMES, UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCES.

Anonymous said...

1st 10:23 AM
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY...IT WILL ALWAYS COME BACK TO YOU.

P.S DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHO WAS BEHIND THE KILLINGS IN ELDORET? SWALLOW YOUR WORDS & READ AGAIN THE ARTICLE HERE IN KK ON THE LATE JOURNAILST, KEEGAN!!

Anonymous said...

All my optimism for this coalition is gone. In good time, I'm 100% sure the Kales will return the favor. And when they do, the political calculus will shift and swing hard. That is the day a certain Kabila from Mt. Kenya will wish it never had played with Kales. You can quote me on this. Patience pays. Kales are patient. But when it happens, you will know the mbio ya mgambo iliwika. Wait for the signs.

Anonymous said...

Kones and that assistant deserve what they got. ODM will never come close to power and those who fuelled clashes will be dealt with. no amnesty for kalenjin youths.

Anonymous said...

i think this was pre planned out well

kibaki on one side talking v2030 while in the meantime mayhem being rained on ODM , what i dont get is how helpless is ODM and its support, or even worse, how callous are the people participating in these crimes, when will it stop?

Anonymous said...

anon 10:23 10:40

as sure as the sun rises from the east, you will rue your comments. events will follow you in such way as to make you understand the value of life. no one should take life or delight when another life is lost.

Anonymous said...

If it turns out to be anything other than an accident, it will then be an ODM inside job. Begin by asking, "Whose interest do such deaths immediately serve (if indeed they are planned deaths)?" My honest take on this is as follows: You can see already the tread here at Kumekucha of trying to blame the deaths on Kikuyus. The Kipsigis in ODM were beginning to fight for their rightful share of cabinet positions after they were short-changed by Raila. They were even talking of shopping for a party other than ODM to join. The anti-Kikuyu glue in ODM was beginning to be overshadowed by intra-party betrayals. Faced with that emergency the question became: How do the pentaGOONS rope the Kipsigis back in the bossom of the ODM? Just do what has worked before - do some mischief on Kipsigis leaders and then blame it on the Kikuyus. And voila! ODMites are already talking of potential violence by Kalenjins on Kikuyus in the RV. If this turns out to be true, then we need a national programme to civilize the pentaGOONS. It appears human life means nothing to these people!!!

Anonymous said...

No amnesty for Kalenjin youth. End of story.

Anonymous said...

The commander in chief is a kikuyu

Misnister for justice-kikuyu

Minister for internal security -kikuyu

Chief justice -kikuyu

Head of intelligence -kikuyu

Head of anti-corruption-kikuyu

Human rights commision-kikuyu

Head of prisones aka kalooser-kikuyu arse licker.

Why do the kikuyu still feel so unsafe in this country? Why can't they get justice?

Why are they arming themsleves? dragging us back to the cave?

lets get this lesotho thing over with real quick I have run out of patience.

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

Yes Raila is responsible for this tragedy. He will blame PNU and try to incite Kipsigis against Kikuyus because Kipsigis were rebelling against ODM.

No amnesty for violent criminals !!!

Anonymous said...

anon9:44 AM

yes martha karua?? tell us how you knew this- shenzi wewe- kill kill kill and at long last you will be 6ft under too!! Kibaki must be removed- kenyans must stop this murderers now!!now!! not tomorrow now!!

The plan was sabotaged last minute- sources at Wilson say there were strange people around Wilson pretending to hire a plan then disappeared in the thin air!! who were they??

Anonymous said...

SIR ALEX...you are surely becoming my favorite here;)
P.s thats the 1st smile i've had since the tragic news..& thats a compliment!!

Hmmm, those other dirty 10:59AM10:23 & 10:40 anons/rats...
YO'LL NEED DOOM, YOU FILTHY EXCUSES OF HUMAN BEINGS!!!

Anonymous said...

ANON10:30 AM

KIBAKI AND PNU!!!!!!!!!! WHO ELSE

THIS IS NOT THE TIME OF OUKO!! MUTA CHUTA!! TAKE YOUR IDP'S ACK TO CENTRAL OR ELSE!
YOU WILL NOT KILL ALL OF US!! CENTRAL LESOTHO IS NOW THE ONLY OPTION~ ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

MP WERE ASSASSINATION
MP TOO ASSASSINATION
AND NOW THEY USED MUSEVENI STYLE- SHOOTING DOWN PLANES !!TAMPERING WITH PLANS BEFORE TAKE OFF

YOU PNU MURDERERS WILL SEE- WE WILL FINISH YOU ONE BY ONE!!

Anonymous said...

Someone has to wonder where those mungiki that were granted amnesty secretly under the cover of drakness are at this time.

Probably waiting for a kale reaction and then total mayhem.

This is all planned.......that power black out may be back sooner than you think......

can someone tell us the state of things in UG I think Museveni's thugs are already in kenyan soil or reading themselves to bomb kenyan positions lickely to be under non kuyo control.. with intelligence supplied by kuyos.

This is all a very likely scenario my fellow kenyans.

And some people have been preaching 'move on' mantra while they are secretly planning shady things.

I thinks RAO has done his bit as a gentleman let the gloves come off......

Sir Alex

Vikii said...

This is damn painful. It is getting scary right now.

I will pass my TRULLY heartfelt condoloscence to the families and friends of these two leaders. It is unfortunate that we are losing leaders and Kenyans for that matter at an amazingly high rate. May God grant comfort and strength to the berieved.

That said, this stupid characteristic ODM DOMO needs to stop. Why would anybody in this world want to kill Lorna Laboso? We need to pray that God is with us all the time and repent AS A NATION of anything we may have done to warrant this. It has absolutely nothing to do with ODM. These are not ODM Mps that are dying, these are fathers, husbands, mothers, wives, friends and loved ones. I do not understand the relevance of their party affiliations.
It reminds me of 2003 when the President was in bad health and close friends of his like Ahmed Khalif, geoffrey Parpai, michael wamalwa and Karisa Maitha died. In addition to these Joab Omino, JP Mutiso and other Narc legislators died. Were they being assasinated by Moi? We need not shout like brainless goons.

Anonymous said...

ANON9:55 AM

MARTHA KARUA SHUT UP IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOUR FILTHY MOUTH!! WE WILL GET YOU TOO !!! DO NOT TRIVIALIZE YOU MURDERING ODM SONS!! LET AS SEE IF YOU CAN HANDLE US NOW!! WATCH AND WAIT !!THIS IS BEYOND POLITIC'S !! YOU KILLED MP. WERE AND TOO!! YOU REFUSED FBI TO HELP CATCH THE KILLERS BECAUSE YOU KNEW WHO DID IT- THIS TIME WE WILL GET EVERYONE INVOLVED IN ALL THE DEATHS-

KIBAKI AND HIS GOONS BETTER GO BACK TO OTHAYA NOW!! OR ELSE!!KENYANS ARE TIRED OF KIBAKI AND PNU MURDEROUS RAMPAGE!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

Anonymous said...

No amnesty for criminals !!

Anonymous said...

ANON10:59 AM

you fool - you said the same of MP Were and Too and now we know different- your propaganda will not wash with kenyans
Kibaki has killed our sons and he will go down too!! you kikuyus think you can kill at pleasure and you actually believe you can get away with it!! not in this kenya today!!

some of us have never thought of killing anyone- but today you broke the camels back!! we are not going to wait for investigations no way!! this time it is an eye for and eye

kikuyu central lesotho from this day will be no more!!! watch and learn- yu murderers!!

Anonymous said...

It has taken close to 4 hours for the 1st 10:59 Anon & his/her ilk to come up with that propaganda!!!

Well we have been anticipating your uncouth, kazi iendelee rubbish...HOT AIR, NOTHING NEW!!!

Anonymous said...

It has taken close to 4 hours for the 1st 10:59 Anon & his/her ilk to come up with that propaganda!!!

Well we have been anticipating your uncouth, kazi iendelee rubbish...HOT AIR, NOTHING NEW!!!

Anonymous said...

anon11:11 AM

only murderer come out shouting like you!! you murdered and assassinated mp were and Too and now you want to convince who - shut up you murderers we will show you which cloth we come from!!! gloves off! ati kikuyu shiate!! now you will know what kenyans meant by voteing kibaki out!!

time out!! for the murderous house of mumbi!! a house full of the stench of innocent kenyans blood!!
this time there is no going back- and if Raila can't do it we will- it is bigger than raila now!! he can't stop s getting our revenge!! muta chuta!!!

keep shouting your domo on here! waste of time!! kenya is going to change forever and if ever a kikuyu opens its mouth - stench will come out from 6ft under!!

Anonymous said...

anon11:23 AM

why are you on the defense?? I thought kumekucha is for everyones opinion?? does the truth hurt you?? let people speak their minds here!

you sound like the fake Marianne that was trying to post or should i say fill this blog up yesterday!! with rubbish!!

Anonymous said...

11:10 AM, TAKE A CHILL PILL, COULD YOU READ AGAIN. YOU ARE SCREAMING YOURSELF HOARSE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING A THING I HAVE SAID....

COOL DOWN YOUR TEMPERS & REALIZE THAT I AM TELLING OFF THAT PERSON, 10:23 AM FOR ATTEMPTING TO BLAME THE KALES FOR THE ELDORET MURDERS.
THAT IS WHY I HAVE REFERRED THEM/IT TO THAT PREVIOUS POST HERE IN KK, THAT SAYS THE LATE JOURNALIST HAD INFO THAT THE ELDORET MURDERS WERE PLANNED BY NONE OTHER THAN KIBAKI & MOI...

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT...& I WOULDN'T BE WRONG IN DEMANDING AN APOLOGY AS I AM SOOOO NOT ACCEPTING YOU BLASTING ME FOR YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING!!!

Anonymous said...

11:28 am....YAAAAAAAAAWWWN!!
I wonder between me & you who is hurting from the truth, that your ilk will soon realize kenya is for all???
PNU RATS ARE SOOOOO PREDICTABLE!!!

Anonymous said...

Vikii @11:11
Are you kenyan ama you have just dropped from mars?

This is a blog probaly none of us is here is a trained investigator or even if someone was they may not be at the scene to determine cause of death.

What we can do here is speculate on all the likely scenarios and unless your just too tired to think, or to blinded by you affection to PNU you must admit that they are likey suspects.

Dimissing them before they are cleared is just as wrong as shooting them without evidence.

But you must allow us to investigate and think aloud as to the possibilities it scalled brain storming....hoping you have one.

Unless you have eveidence to prove otherwise anyone can be suspect.

Pretending to cry and sympathise does not a case make.

Somehow you list of dead has avoided Tom mboya, JMK. Fr, kaiser,Ouko......

Selective.....are you also for selective justice?

My feeling is that Wamalwa could have been killed too.....

Investigators must first have a hunch the follow it. In other word the must first assume that so and so did it and work by elimination.

Even our clever doctore have to do that.

They just become better and fasters at guessing.

Someone in your family owes me for educating you.....some people are giving us too much work..


Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

anon 11:28 AM and Phil...i have to dissappoint you. Whoever was posting repititive posts here was Marianne Briner. When you take it beyond Marianne Briner you make her day.

I have confirmed her IP address: Spain Malaga: Tel: 01134952669717...

In a way I'm glad she's no longer rubbishing Chris our own.

And I hope I shut her up by revealing her tel: no.

If she threatens Chris again, I'm gonna have to publish her physical address---both in Spain and Switzerland.

May God rest Kones and Lorna's soul in eternal peace...

How i wish it was Marianne Briner who perished. Ain't she just a pain?

deroo said...

PUT POLITICS AWAY FROM THIS ISSUE. VERY, VERY FAR.

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

We should be sad that a daughter of Kenya whose greatness was imminent has just passed on.
I dont see what the connection with PNU might be. In fact, it is likely Raila (who has absolutely no respect for human life) who did this heinous thing. Just think about it, he was faced and is faced with massive strife among the Kipsigis, whose support for ODM was not trivial. Rather than face a massive defection, Raila decided to derail that for a while. But its coming. This is the last straw for the Kipsigis and they are moving en masse back to KANU. Just you wait and see.

deroo said...

Honestly, it was a crash similar to the one in Marsabit some time back, and equally another one like the on ein 2008 and another one in Marsabit many years ago that claimed the lives many oncluding Ishmael Chelanga.

Why is there politics in this? Stop pricking the departed soauls and rest the mouring families. Period!

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

awwwwwww my bad...you people think i'm MB because i posted twice.
sorry to bust your bubble but i clicked twice on "pubish your comment", hence the repitition...try it. heck yo'll try it lets see how many "MB" there will be.

Sorry I killed someones excitement, jeez;)

Anonymous said...

Marianne briner aka, anon@11:41, leave our Captain out of your dementia.

You need to get lost.

To reach Marianne call: 01134952669717

God rest Kones and Lorna's soul in eternal peace.

Anonymous said...

Raira this, Raira that, Raira...damn....yawn..anon 11:44

R.I.P to the fallen comrades.

Anonymous said...

Another plane crash in Sudan. Not unlike a previous poster, I now see Raila's hand in all this. Sorry to offend you, Railamanics.

Anonymous said...

Marianne Briner @ 11:53. Stop insulting our captain. If you keep it up, we'll post your residential locale on this blog.

so be warned and stop.

God bless Kones and Lorna's soul
peace

Anonymous said...

ANON11:53 AM

KIBAKI KILLER, KIBAKI KILLER KIBAKI KILLER KIBAKI KILLER KIAKI MURDERER KIBAKI MURDERER AND GUESS WHAT HE WILL GO 6FT UNDER TOO WAIT AND SEE- MURDERS ENS UP IN A HOLE!

Anonymous said...

I'm now trembling in fear. I implore thee not to reveal my addresses in Malaga, Spain and Switzerland. Please dont! My lips are sealed--no more bad things about your bad captain.
Marianne Briner.

Anonymous said...

anon 11:44

Its funny how some people are sure its not PNU and then speculate that it could be RAO....

AT least don't be sure its not PNU it shows your thinking or at least have a brain.

THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT!!!!!!

makes you wonder if that was not the plan. kill them and then blame RAO.
Another brainless PNU scheme you constanlty miss read RAO thats why he beats you all the time.

If I was an investigator looking into this thing the first thing I would consider is what has been RAOs reaction been when faced with dissent? he simply lets it run its course then regroups.

His attacking style is alwayas a tack tical retreat than a tsunami.

Did it with project uhuru.
Did it with MOU, did it with Kalooser ODM-K. So far the kisigis revolt was not even in full gear.
there has been noise before but it never amounted to much.

However 'premptive' klling is a PNU mt kenya style. from Were. mbai, down to JM. Those are my prime suspects.

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

Sir Alex: why would PNU want to rock/destroy a boat that was docking in the KANU berth? Brains can be handy in times like these.

Anonymous said...

Sir Alex

dont even get drawn into that PNU crap

first off if you criticize PNU its said you are demonizing kikuyu,

but if you say PNU is a tribal party they tell you its national and then mention Wetangula.

if Kibaki is queried, you are demeaning kikuyu, if you say kibaki is a tribal president, they come up stories of 21 million votes and counting.

its pointless to engage these guys

Anonymous said...

Sir Alex: Just think, even a little, with the brain, not the heart, and you will see what I mean. For example, why were Kipkalya and Lorna the only ODMers in that plane? We have learnt that others shelved the idea of travelling. Why? What did they know? Just think, even a little.

Anonymous said...

I see your favourite subject MB is back all over the blog, at least in the sick mind of one Hellen Okello. I thought, Indiana is flooded and you have other things to do like preparing a meal for the new man in your life. I heard, Kambas are good lovers. At least that's what Chris published here some time ago.

Anonymous said...

12:09
PROPAGANDA!!!!

Anonymous said...

anon 12:04
They were not docking in kanu to join PNU.Why would they be coming to you when you want them dead?

I personaly know of kikuyus and some have said it themselves here shall be no amnesty for kales.

I happen to personaly know kuyos that are still very bitter about what happened in rift valley and its not just about the people burnt at the church.

lately they have been letting me know that the are armed and dangerous. I wondered what for, what present danger occassioned that?

The seemed to know something was afoot......

I was of the opinion that we were all trying to make this a livable country for all.....its dejavu I have been here before.....some mungiki prisoners are missing...something is up.

Some bitter folks ths PANuer are.

Thats makes you a suspect in the event of a kale death.

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

anon12:09 PM

aah! martha karua you said it? they shelved the idea to travel?? do you know why?? or it shocked you that they did and you were not able to kill more odm mps?? you murderer!

I guess domo always sells it self!!watch wait and see!! you will wish you were born a muzunga and you never originated fro central mavi land!! murderous will not get a life!! kibaki and cronies better hide under their wifes skirts!! cloves offf!!

Anonymous said...

Sir Alex

12:20 PM

someone kept reporting here that mungiki prisoners had been released from prisons around the country!! the psot suggested people call the prison guards for facts- now we know why they were being released?? to get ready to protect the mt kenya mafia when they bring the plane down!

the kibaki goons were expecting more MP's on that plane - but it didn't happen their way last minute changes saved the other MP's
this murderers will not be left in kenya to roam free no way!!

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:59 AM - it's true, I am trembling. But not with fear, with laughter about you and some other imposters here.

MB

Anonymous said...

anon12:09 PM

think a little?? the words of a murderer who didn't get to kill as many as you had planned- you will crawl in a hole like saddam hussien when you finish your kind!! murderer!!

Anonymous said...

MB
Ok, you caught me. For a moment it was fun, and now you've blown my cover.
But honestly, much as its been dismissed as propaganda, I saw the tea leaves this morning and I knew something was up. The tea leaves spoke and said, nah, nah, not PNU. Look to the west, look to the lake. Then I knew, and now its done. What a tragedy.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:35 PM - I am sorry to have taken the fun out of it. But maybe you can read the tea leafs again tomorrow? Let me know.

MB

PS. I think I not only blew your cover but I also know your identity. Continue having fun, my friend, with or without tea leafs. It's our Karma, remember?

Anonymous said...

MB
My teeth are now chattering in FEAR...and I know your identity too. Yup, tis our Karma indeed.

Anonymous said...

KIBAKI MURDERER KIBAKI MURDERER KIBAKI MURDERER PNU- PARTY OF MURDERERS
UHURU
MARTHA KARUA
SAITOTI
MICHUKI
ALL MURDERERS USING THE GOVERNMENT MACHINERY AND THE MUNGIKI GANG WHO THEY RELEASED FROM PRISON TWO WEEKS AGO!!

PLAN CRASH PLANNED BY KIBAKI AND HIS GOONS JUST LIKE MP WERE'S ASSASSINATION!! DEATH TO THIS MURDERERS! YES YOU BETTER SHIVER!!

Anonymous said...

Blame game kama kawaida !!!!

Anonymous said...

ANON1:11 PM
FACTS ARE FACTS- WHO GAVE THE POLICE ORDERS TO KILL INNOCENT KENAYNS??

KIBAKI KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO KILLED MP WERE AND REFUSED FBI INVESTIGATION

KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO KILLED MP TOO AND PAID OFF THE POLICEMAN THAT KILLED HIM

KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO TAMPERED WITH THE PLAN CARRYING KONES AND LABOSO

KIBAKI KIBAKI KIBAKI

ALL DEAD BECAUSE OF A GREEDY AND SELFISH MAN WHO WANTS TO STAY IN POWER AT WHAT EVER COST EVEN IF IT MEANS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT KENYANS LIFES!

Anonymous said...

ANON1:11 PM
FACTS ARE FACTS- WHO GAVE THE POLICE ORDERS TO KILL INNOCENT KENAYNS??

KIBAKI KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO KILLED MP WERE AND REFUSED FBI INVESTIGATION

KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO KILLED MP TOO AND PAID OFF THE POLICEMAN THAT KILLED HIM

KIBAKI KIBAKI

WHO TAMPERED WITH THE PLAN CARRYING KONES AND LABOSO

KIBAKI KIBAKI KIBAKI

ALL DEAD BECAUSE OF A GREEDY AND SELFISH MAN WHO WANTS TO STAY IN POWER AT WHAT EVER COST EVEN IF IT MEANS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT KENYANS LIFES!

Anonymous said...

really sad, and the worst thing is that these incidents have shot up in the last 6 yrs

Anonymous said...

anon 1.01 pls take your conspiracy theories away and get proof before you conclude such things. For you every kenyan who dies dies because of kibaki.

Anonymous said...

who told you that the pentagon was the target? And to be honest, the radar is on the government and if they did this? wow its been too well executed. Obviously the pentagon no better than to fly in the same planes , and they only need to look at kibaki's first few months as president where ministers died in the plane crash or even the marsabit one. But to be honest, Kibaki might not even know, sometimes the people who order these things are higher than the president himself. And he may never know them.

Anonymous said...

This marriage should just end. It has a bad taste in the mouth. When you have all PNU people sending their condolences when Iam sure they are laughing and plotting more of the same again is just vile. RAO better wake up before its too late. Hii Kenya kweli inawenyewe...And its not you and me.

Anonymous said...

There is one who fights for the innocent, the little defenceless souls who screamed to their final hour in that burning church in Eldoret.

as the wise ones of old were apt to say, what you send to others will in the fullnesss of time return to you. ODM sent death to hundreds of innocent people who had done them no harm

Its just coming back to them.

let Kones go and explain huko mbele while standing next to the little kids he killed in Eld and elswhere. let him go now and talk about mass action there and why innocent people had to die

Anonymous said...

My deepest sympathy to family, relatives, friends, colleagues, constituents and admirers of Hons Kones and Laboso.

Deepest symapthy to the families, relatives and friends of the pilot and bodyguard.

This is really sad for me. I was probably the greatest admirer of Hon Laboso.

Gentleman

Anonymous said...

Anon 9.04 PM Are you serious when you say this....'let Kones go and explain huko mbele while standing next to the little kids he killed in Eld and elswhere. let him go now and talk about mass action there and why innocent people had to die'
It shows the kind of differences we got in our country. Its all torn in the middle! What happened to brotherhood etc. This lesothotalk is n good at all as it is causing alot of people to feel hated. Its a time to mourn not call on imaginery angels to punish Kones and Laboso..Ohh my word!

Anonymous said...

Kibaki seems to be the cause of everything, even the earthquake in china... Nway..
I just wish we had all mourned for the more than 1500 kikuyus butchered in RV the same way we are mourning for these two leaders. RIP post election victims, RIP our great leaders.

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