tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post8251819239929358029..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Change ...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-44990669911213378082008-11-30T21:53:00.000-08:002008-11-30T21:53:00.000-08:00Some anonimous dude just said kaleo can't farm! Wh...Some anonimous dude just said kaleo can't farm! Who told u Kikuyus had farms in the rift [north rift], They don't, they only had plots u know know a quatrer of an acre, an eith etc....for doing the similar thing as they do in Cenrtal plant vegies n stuff! The real farmers in the North rift are pure kaleos, a few Luhyas, Whites , and Goans. I come from Eldie near chepkoilel campus. I know know that for a fact Kalenjins are the large scale farmers my guy! Not kikuyusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-83476200408835434072008-11-28T15:53:00.000-08:002008-11-28T15:53:00.000-08:00Only stupid fools cannot add one $ one and see a c...Only stupid fools cannot add one $ one and see a connection btwn the eviction of peasant farmers in the rift valley in january violence and the current food shortages we are having now. Now the kibera pple have to think twice next time be4 they riot..or at least riot against who....so far i havent heard of ant food shortages in " lesotho" ....but in kibera ..oh yeah ...and this is just the begining ...see wat happened in Zimbabwe after cjasing white farmers..same is happenning in Rvalley coz these Kaleos cannot farm .. if only KTN cud do a bit of journalistic reseach and connect their fanning of propaganda and now wat is happening. The IDPs are resettling elsewhere..hard workin tax paying kenyans and they lift themselves up the 92 violence saw the eviction of molo peasant and the subsequences rise of the convinient entreprenural Molo line shuttle services ..u knaw it isn't all abot farming at times. No wonder Masaais were not in a hurry to evict the peasant because a little memory had taught them better u rattle the peasant u STARVE.. So siasa mbaya maisha mbaya b4 u politic knaw ur interest and think hard ennuff ala moi ukipanda ovyo utavuna ovyo...now the farmers left in Rvalley wamepanda ovyo wanavuna ovyo kaw hiyo njaa kibera en the rest oAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59689275602824307962008-11-28T05:58:00.000-08:002008-11-28T05:58:00.000-08:00kk why not shed some light on the female NMP who's...kk why not shed some light on the female NMP who's divorced her husband after her boyfriend in ODM pentagon secured her the post in the 10th parliament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-75688028032309297522008-11-28T05:24:00.000-08:002008-11-28T05:24:00.000-08:00Thanks Joe ... he is aware.Thanks Joe ... he is aware.Sayrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042988569205356143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-80944395860479703922008-11-28T04:05:00.000-08:002008-11-28T04:05:00.000-08:00Sayra,Request send to Chris... Hope he is aware.Sayra,<BR/><BR/><BR/>Request send to Chris... Hope he is aware.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392614056876577737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-34802327714693048552008-11-28T01:21:00.000-08:002008-11-28T01:21:00.000-08:00The following is inscribed on the tomb of an Angli...The following is inscribed on the tomb of an Anglican Bishop in Westminster Abby (1100 A.D.) …<BR/><BR/>When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits, I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser, I discovered the world would not change, so I shortened my sights somewhat and decided to change only my country.<BR/><BR/>But it, too, seemed immovable.<BR/><BR/>As I grew into my twilight years, in one last desperate attempt, I settled for changing only my family, those closest to me, but alas, they would have none of it.<BR/><BR/>And now, as I lie on my deathbed, I suddenly realize: If I had only changed myself first, then by example I would have changed my family.<BR/><BR/>From their inspiration and encouragement, I would then have been able to better my country, and who knows, I may have even changed the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42496673324020140722008-11-27T16:45:00.000-08:002008-11-27T16:45:00.000-08:00sayraexcellent thoughts on change.UrXlncsayra<BR/><BR/>excellent thoughts on change.<BR/><BR/>UrXlncAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-56462513757971402402008-11-27T09:36:00.000-08:002008-11-27T09:36:00.000-08:00anon6:44 AMyes all we had you repeating is that KI...anon6:44 AM<BR/>yes all we had you repeating is that <BR/>KIBAKI WILL BE FROG MARCHED TO HAGUE.<BR/>for ordering the police to shoot and kill innocent kenyans in cold blood...<BR/><BR/>did you forget the MOU Kibaki signed with the Mungiki at Statehouse to go slaughter and behead other tribes??<BR/><BR/>here Read it:<BR/><BR/>http://www.scribd.com/doc/531730/Kibaki-Mungiki-MoUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-75197988860557260402008-11-27T09:31:00.000-08:002008-11-27T09:31:00.000-08:00ANON5:49 AMHa!!ha!ha!hee He!!hee!!Kibaki the Senil...ANON5:49 AM<BR/><BR/>Ha!!ha!ha!hee He!!hee!!<BR/><BR/>Kibaki the Senile fool is not ruling Kenya .. he is the fake President of Central Lesotho... Ogwambo is already ruling kenya... stop sleeping my friend...<BR/>Keep changing Kibaki's diaper's:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68177228954454997722008-11-27T08:21:00.000-08:002008-11-27T08:21:00.000-08:00Looks like we have a long hard road ahead.Most of ...Looks like we have a long hard road ahead.<BR/><BR/>Most of you guys are so off that you have literally sold your souls to ODM and PNU. So much that you have forgotten that Kenya belongs to you. This is not about ODM or PNU, its about us.<BR/>Well, I won't assume or underestimate most of you ... clearly the gate keepers and their fans have to do their work.<BR/><BR/>But am glad and very happy there are those that ready to work. Will keep you updated.<BR/><BR/>*****<BR/><BR/>Joe,<BR/>Need to discuss something with you, kindly get my mail address from Chris (umissedthis@yahoo.com).Sayrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042988569205356143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-81533845353507125352008-11-27T08:20:00.000-08:002008-11-27T08:20:00.000-08:00One thing that hampers any laeder in Kenya is part...One thing that hampers any laeder in Kenya is partly the constitution. <BR/><BR/>The president is hog tied to choosing ministers from characters elected by the people. He doesn't know half these chaps, some have never had such responsibilities, some are even uneducated and goat herders. That is a recipe for disaster.<BR/><BR/>The fact that we have ministers earning millions of kshs for basically being posters boys/girls is rediculous. We need to get rid of this minister post as it used as a carrot and stick. Let the PS run things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-14403792449082132362008-11-27T08:10:00.000-08:002008-11-27T08:10:00.000-08:00The kaleos thought they could threaten to walk out...The kaleos thought they could threaten to walk out and were surprised that agwambo the steady rock is unmoved - ever wondered why their ringleaders starting with the ruto clowns all seem to be crawling back to their senses?<BR/><BR/>Haters, you had better read Sir Alex's post. Raila is the best out of this sorry lot.<BR/><BR/>As for those like vikii that are thinking kalonzo - better ask yourselves why the coward never has a msimamo on anything, preferring instead to watch where the gema(okuyu) wind is blowing - what an empty suit.<BR/><BR/>By the way vikii, i hope you were not seriuos when you said you have great respect and admiration for uhuru. <BR/><BR/>Are these the change agents that you haters have in mind by anay chance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40471693633732297552008-11-27T07:58:00.000-08:002008-11-27T07:58:00.000-08:00Change in Kenya will have to begin with individual...Change in Kenya will have to begin with individual cultural change and responsiblity. <BR/><BR/>The people of Kenya are not interested in change but rather they are intersted in change through their choosen son/daughter ergo Ruto has RV, Kibaki has Central and Raila has Nyanza and Western and some parts of the Coast. <BR/><BR/>Try as one would, it is practically impossible to break the conditioning that kenyans have become accustomed to. Even when it is clear that their son/daughter has fallen short, we will gladly sweep that fact under the rug. <BR/><BR/>The only way I think one can affect change in Kenya is by starting at their own back yard. Go back to your village and start there. become a leader there and implement your vision of change. It has to start from the bottom up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-25519148853877439502008-11-27T07:49:00.000-08:002008-11-27T07:49:00.000-08:00anon 6.44,Please please be gentle with Phil. He ha...anon 6.44,<BR/><BR/>Please please be gentle with Phil. He had been on suicidal watch since Raila Odinga lost at the polls. Currently he receiving attention and good care. Kindly I ask you to be a little bit symapthetic towards him.<BR/> <BR/>Phil's MistressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61806363588320937462008-11-27T07:37:00.000-08:002008-11-27T07:37:00.000-08:00the messiah....who divides (the so-called 'sizable...the messiah....who divides (the so-called 'sizable' constituency)<BR/>...what....CRAP. Even the kale's are walking out....hehehe!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47210356162556241632008-11-27T07:34:00.000-08:002008-11-27T07:34:00.000-08:00.....the anointed one.....messiah!.....the anointed one.....messiah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89421876946992584382008-11-27T07:15:00.000-08:002008-11-27T07:15:00.000-08:00Well Ken point taken we are actually on the same p...Well Ken point taken we are actually on the same page.......If we were to fire 'bad' politicians then there would be no one left standing, all I'm saying is that RAO is the better of the lot, its not blind faith and its not a blank cheque, its about the hand that we have dealt ourself, its about the best permutation and combination with the current deck of cards......<BR/> Bad mouthing the likes of RAO and trying to group him with Kibs a board certfied thug is not helping. If we were to take your method of elimination maybe even KK may have to close down because we all stole some sugar to lick when we were kids.<BR/> Lets try and be practical and Honest, so far within the existing constraints its fair to say that RAO has been outstanding. What we cannot do is begin to pretend that we can somehow have a parliament full of saints or a cabinet for that matter.....RAO himself recognised this when he chose baba jim inspite of his dismal past record, but that was the only way to remove project Uhuru whom we all agree was going to be a disaster.<BR/> Pls remember we are coming frm 40yrs of looting. This country is in such bad shape that if the wanaanchi would get the correct picture the likes of saitoti would my lynched by a mob like yesterday...the challeng is how do we realistically begin to mend this? My argument is that while RAo may not be a saint he is clearly not the devil incarnate and he can be on our side, he can as you say influence a sizable 'constituency' one way or the other....anyone who knows about dealing with the public will tell you that it is always in your interst to rope in a popular individual if you seek to influence public opinion....sitting in a corner somewhere and calling names is not going to help, people can demonstrate and seek to influnce policy......RAO has shown that he listens, he is not all knowing and nobody is but he listens, he is not that beligerent,sloth at SH that does his own things trying to give us a constitution that he cooked with Amos....<BR/> Kura kwa RAO but he must also be advised and in formed because he has shown that he listens...that is the most impotant quality of a leader to listen to the people and take them where they want to go.....not to pretend like emelio that he knows and its us who don't.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68089046361564010422008-11-27T06:44:00.000-08:002008-11-27T06:44:00.000-08:00Phil, did you hear what anon 5.49 said?"Raila Amol...Phil, did you hear what anon 5.49 said?<BR/><BR/>"Raila Amollo Odinga will never Rule Kenya!!<BR/>Yeah! You heard it here first."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29712284959126163312008-11-27T06:43:00.000-08:002008-11-27T06:43:00.000-08:00My fellow country men and women, if you seriousl...My fellow country men and women, if you seriously think about bringing change to Kenya, then let us join the demonstration organized by Religious and Civil society leaders on December 12 and demand not only the taxation of MP allowances but the cutting of their salaries and allowances to a half.<BR/><BR/> BTW this is the best way and time to unite Kenyans and inform them the major difference between them is not tribal but poverty brought about by greedy leaders and poor leadership. Kenyans should know without unity they will not achieve any change and their future is doomed.<BR/><BR/> If we succeed and bring our MP to their knees then we have made change and taken the first step to a better Kenya.<BR/><BR/> If we can’t participate in the demonstrations then we can’t do anything to be proud of. We should expect no change to take place. May be the best we can do is Domo domo and crying over spilt milk as usual .<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/> “You must constantly ask yourself these questions: Who am I around? What are they doing to me? What have they got me reading? What have they got me saying? Where do they have me going? What do they have me thinking? And most important, what do they have me becoming? Then ask yourself the big question: Is that okay? Your life does not get better by chance, it gets better by change.” Jim Rohn quotesUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00872234586633599372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-15612700652467080052008-11-27T06:36:00.000-08:002008-11-27T06:36:00.000-08:00Ken said... People,We can see the change we were p...Ken said... <BR/>People,<BR/><BR/>We can see the change we were promised. Ruto is now incharge of agriculture but he is busy buying maize en selling it back at triple the price to get money for lawyers when he goes to the hague.<BR/><BR/>Our Comment:<BR/><BR/>We seek not, and we repeat, we seek not to defend anyone.<BR/><BR/>According to Ken, Ruto is in charge of Ministry of Agriculture, and as a result of his failure, he tells us, perhaps with a smile on his face, see the change we were promised.<BR/><BR/>A good thinker should engage both sides of the brain. It would have made sense if Ken had the courage to say as well, is this what it means let the work continue? <BR/><BR/>He forgets or choses to forget that Kibaki of the Kazi iendelee slogan, is still the president of the nation. Thus, how Ken can see Ruto's failure of change and at the same time fail to see the failure let the work continue, is beyond our imagination.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-5072696926395995512008-11-27T06:20:00.000-08:002008-11-27T06:20:00.000-08:00Anonymous 12:12 AM, you said this:"Vikii Waambiye ...Anonymous 12:12 AM, you said this:<BR/><BR/>"Vikii Waambiye tell them!!!<BR/>They killed to get into govt and now the prices keep on rising something they promised their Chang'aa frothing youths that their govt will address now even Kibera residents are up in arms throwing stones in protest at a govt suprevised by the messiah maajabu haya Phil, Sir Alex, Ivy, Taabu, Urxlnc leta ingine"<BR/><BR/>You <B>fraudulently</B> and <B>deceptively</B> avoid mentioning the real cause of the problems that Kenya is faced with and who played a major role in creating them. I shall refresh your memory - this is also for the rest of the clowns who think like you.<BR/><BR/>Kibaki was elected with a resounding landslide in the elections of December 2002 - genuinely. He did not STEAL the elections then, he won fair and square. <B>His primary duty and responsibility as the newly and genuinely elected president of Kenya was to tackle the three major problems that had messed up the country since the 1960's</B>, first during the Kenyatta administration and later accelerated during the Moi administration. These are:<BR/><BR/>1) <B>Endemic corruption</B>. Which even he, during his swearing in speech, said had sadly become a way of life in Kenya and that he would do all in his power to reverse this ugly situation.<BR/><BR/>2) <B>Poor governance</B>. All our institutions had collapsed and had failed to fulfill their role.<BR/><BR/>3) The cancer of <B>Tribalism</B>.<BR/><BR/><B>These problems arose and were fed by the culture of IMPUNITY</B>. Unfortunately, on all three counts, Kibaki's performance has been disastrous. He has failed spectacularly. In fact things have gotten worse. Tribalism, Corruption and Poor Governance have worsened. All these have been driven by the culture of <B>IMPUNITY</B>. This was epitomized in his (Kibaki's) blatant <B>STEALING</B> of the elections of December 2007 in broad daylight and his subsequent <B>HURRIED</B> and <B>SECRET</B> swearing in - only someone who has stolen the election can behave this way; <B>the post election violence was a direct consequence of this blatant THEFT</B>.<BR/><BR/>Had Kibaki provided proper LEADERSHIP since taking over at the beginning of 2003 all of these nonsensical and tragic events would have never occured.<BR/><BR/><B>Read what Judge Waki in his report says about him:</B><BR/><BR/>The Waki Commission report accuses Kibaki of <B>failing to exercise the required LEADERSHIP</B> that would have convinced the public and the international community that the 2007 General Election would have been free and fair. (This later came to pass: Kibaki <B>STOLE</B> the elections; consequently triggering the violence)<BR/><BR/><B>Kibaki's inability to provide leadership includes the failure to lead the National Rainbow Coalition (Narc) from the front when he took over power in 2003</B> after winning the December 2002 elections.<B>The post election-violence is, in part, a consequence of the failure of Kibaki and his first Government to exert political control (i.e LEADERSHIP) over the country or to maintain sufficient legitimacy as would have allowed a civilized contest with him at the polls possible.</B><BR/><BR/>The report also blames Kibaki's decision to renege on the memorandum of understanding (MoU) between the Kibaki’s National Alliance Party of Kenya (NAK) and Mr Odinga’s Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) before the 2002 elections as one of the major contributory factors that created the environment that made occurrence of post election almost a certainty. It eventually came to pass.<BR/><BR/>Even though the 2005 referendum was peaceful and results were accepted rather than contested, the parameters were nevertheless drawn. Worse was the decision by Kibaki to dissolve the entire Cabinet after <B>LOSING</B> the referendum and excluding Mr Odinga and his allies from the Government a month later when he reconstituted his administration.<BR/><BR/><B>The net effect, was further political polarisation</B>. Kibaki's turning away from Raila and removing from government the group of ministers associated with Odinga had the effect of increasing the polarisation of politics along ethnic lines.<BR/><BR/>By so doing, <B>the Waki report points an accusing finger at Kibaki saying that he failed to take actions (i.e LEADERSHIP) that would have bridged the escalating ethnic and political divide, which fueled the political violence</B>. It was wrong, the report argues, for Kibaki to fail to heed the advice of leaders from other communities.<BR/><BR/><B>Kibaki’s regime failed to unite the country, and allowed feelings of marginalisation to fester into what became the post-election violence</B>. He and his then Government were complacent in the support they considered they would receive in any election from the majority Kikuyu community and failed to heed the views of the legitimate leaders of other communities.<BR/><BR/>Under the agreement that Kibaki's NAK signed with Raila's LDP the post of PM was to be introduced after 2002 General Election and the Constitution reviewed to recognize the new position. <B>Failure to honor the MoU by Kibaki broke the trust that had been built between Kibaki and Mr Odinga, in the process splitting Narc</B>.<BR/><BR/>This (reneging on the MoU) was criticised by the public as an attempt by the so-called ‘Mount Kenya Mafia’ to keep power to itself rather than share it.<BR/><BR/>The Waki report also blames Kibaki for the way he handled the search for a new Constitution and the 2005 referendum and its aftermath. <B>His administration is accused of diluting some of the provisions of the Bomas Draft into what was later called the Wako Draft</B>. It is the latter that was put up for the referendum pitting Kibaki on the side of the “Yes” or Banana campaign and Mr Odinga in the “NO” or Orange crusade.<BR/><BR/>The Orange movement that defeated the government by rejecting the Wako draft was later to be transformed into a political party, the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM).<BR/><BR/>Former President Moi, who is now Kibaki's strongest supporter and defender, stands accused for allowing the culture of <B>IMPUNITY</B> to take root following the election violence of 1992 and 1997. As events have unfolded since early 2003, it clearly shows that Kibaki has faithfully followed the footsteps of Moi, no wonder they are on the same side now - <B>birds of the same feathers flock together</B>. What a big let down from someone from whom so much civilized and progressive leadership was expected...<BR/><BR/><B>Bottom line: Kibaki stands for the pumbavu status quo of massive corruption, mediocre leadership, tribalism and is completely averse to change</B>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-55835087495923536022008-11-27T05:49:00.000-08:002008-11-27T05:49:00.000-08:00Raila Amollo Odinga will never Rule Kenya!!Yeah! Y...Raila Amollo Odinga will never Rule Kenya!!<BR/><BR/>Yeah! You heard it here first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-67274950630040836162008-11-27T05:48:00.000-08:002008-11-27T05:48:00.000-08:00@ Sir Alex,You are so blinded by your loyalty to R...@ Sir Alex,<BR/><BR/>You are so blinded by your loyalty to RAO you fail to see even the very basic of things.<BR/><BR/>Firstly, no one said Saitoti is good. He was behind goldenberg and we all know.<BR/><BR/>If RAO was the "change" you claim he is, he would have been the first to volunteer to pay tax. Do you know what would happen if RAO volunteered to pay tax? Many ass licking MP's would follow suit and our public coffers would increase in size.<BR/><BR/>Baba Jimmy has failed this country time and time again and we are not trying to justify him.<BR/><BR/>Until people stop the blind loyalty I have seen in kumekucha for some "messiah", then we shall forever be crying foul in Kenya.<BR/><BR/>As for Ntimama, he is now good because RAO appointed him yet we all know the number of lives that have been lost in the past due to his actions and utterances. I am sure the only reason Ntimama is "good" to you Sir Alex is because RAO was the one who appointed him and he supports RAO.<BR/><BR/>This is pathetic. Kama mbaya mbaya... Lets unmask the rot on our government without bias.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03851005220829586928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3624558408226509522008-11-27T05:29:00.000-08:002008-11-27T05:29:00.000-08:00What is man like RAO to do? When he had NDP he had...What is man like RAO to do? When he had NDP he had mostly luo mps who where hoping that the Odinga legacy may make it easy for them to be re-elected if the identfied with his son.......in other words opportunist.<BR/> On the other hand other kenyans not wanting a kehii to rule them shunned his party...so he did the clever thing joined KANU..did a few tricks and emerged with Rainbow....it had the likes of saitoti and kalonzo perenial M01 goons who were just bitter that they were not annointed....we choose to look the other way for as long as the got rid of project uhuru....<BR/> So my dear kenyans why do you know look a gift horse in the mouth? The leaders like Ntimama represent a larg contituncey of kenyans and was legitimately voted in by kenyans.....I since some simpl minded, dictatorial tendancies in some voices on KK.....politics is not that clean ...we cheer saitoti and now chastise RAO for appointing Ntimama who we elected.....serious people with such limited understanding are causing us too much heart ache...kenya has very serious problems simply minded haters are a luxury we just cannot afford.<BR/> Politicains are not meant to be siants they are there to serve out current needs.....wasting time trying to paint RAO black is just stupid.....the guy brought down the project, instituted a sytem that was on its way to create a better kenya....and this is a kenya that for the past 40yrs was basically rotting where does he get the right people , people with clout and character? Its a balancing game, its about getting the best out of a bad situation.........<BR/> Sikply minded people are a pain and a burden.<BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29281797086034513922008-11-27T05:11:00.000-08:002008-11-27T05:11:00.000-08:00Now you guys agree that RAO is the supervisor........Now you guys agree that RAO is the supervisor.....Did i hear some one say that he is incharge? <BR/><BR/>The same people said he was a PM without clout....A lame duck, just give him the flag and he will be singing Kibaki......When the nation is at crossroads..he is incharge...What hypocrisy?Ivyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322325173956927941noreply@blogger.com