tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post8000986991153197334..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: ODM Refuses to Endorse Kibaki's PresidencyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42140200329011276422008-01-02T15:28:00.000-08:002008-01-02T15:28:00.000-08:00While Kenya continue to in chaos, this is what som...While Kenya continue to in chaos, this is what some bloggers are writing on jaluo dot com.<BR/><BR/>It`s a pity...!<BR/><BR/>THEY ARE NOT IN CONFIRM PLEASE BUT FORCE IS THE WAY NO DIPLOMACY AT THIS TIME 50 ARE DEAD<BR/><BR/>Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:05:02 -0500<BR/>From: Maurice Nyaware<BR/><BR/>It’s right to keep each one of us in Diaspora who has access to our beloved web “”jaluo.com’’.As you know we are all astonished with the self declaration of Jaraboun’s win.What I can say is that some of the reliable source back from home says that, the peoples President is not locked in and his fellows like Ruto and Orengo Jimy is also not in,they are all expected to hold THE PEOPLE’S PRESIDENDT INAGURATION at the venue that have not been mentioned at 2pm, so far it is that the deaths fom Dagoreti.Mathare, Kariobangi, Kayole and some other estates in Nairobi may be 50 in number’s there have been fights through out the night since Kibaki imposed him self yesterday .The forces are also devide and this is said to couse more havoc scince the majority of the foces are wakale and this are pro Aguambo. Otherwiase this is the time when force should be implemented to achieve the demand of the people as it is said when diplomacy fails Force should be implied, the reasone why am saying this is for the reason that the Court will not solve this situation and if some body is thinking of international community this still will fail couse Okuche as you know they are nincompups who do not look at this as a national concern but away of making more “”Mbesha”” .this is way I say lets find a way of making use of our forces THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OUT.<BR/><BR/>Listone OAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-33268923398587379732008-01-02T00:25:00.000-08:002008-01-02T00:25:00.000-08:00The day Kenyan people will wake up one morning and...The day Kenyan people will wake up one morning and think they are Kenyans, will be the day they will start thinking what neo-colonialsm is doing in Kenya at the moment.<BR/>As my friend from the Caribbean told me, black people suffers from the effects of slavery, colonialism and its the high time "21st century" that we address this issue and stop thinking Jaluo, Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Kamba, Kisii the list goes on to Ibo`s and Zulus etc.<BR/>Election only took a day, and the stupidness of uneducated in Kenya sorry to say and Intelectuals abroad have been compromised by two people, Kibaki and Raila "millionaires". They are now spilling poor people’s blood for their own selfishness, greed and power hunger. What do you think they want to accomplish? Protect their ill gotten wealth some of which have been stashed in foreign banks (safe deposits) while poor Kibera voters slaughter one another and others in Eldoret and Nyanza burn their loved neighbours houses, because they are from different tribes. And as we speak, Kibaki and Raila are tossing champagne and shouting loud "cheers". Probably with UK, US and Canadian Ambassadors. They all go to bed together. These guys are crooks, I quote John Kerry when Bush was declared the USA President the second time. After rigging Florida votes where his brother was Governor.<BR/><BR/>KENYANS, I PLEAD WITH YOU. LET US WORK, STUDY AND GO BACK TO KENYA AND DEVELOP OUR NATION. KIBAKI IS 76 YRS come on, RAILA 62 YEARS hihi getting there, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK. These people have never experienced poverty and the people dying are hardly 30 years old. ARE WE BUILDING OR DESTROYING OUR FUTURE?<BR/>These guys are senile, and the reason i`m saying that is because of the lifestyle they have. Ordinary Kenyans should come together as brothers and sisters and oust these guys out of office and out of our way and take charge of our country.<BR/><BR/>They have so much money; they can live wherever they want in this world without working until they die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-90836070931816543692008-01-01T20:08:00.000-08:002008-01-01T20:08:00.000-08:00The day Kenyan people will wake up one morning and...The day Kenyan people will wake up one morning and think they are Kenyans, will be the day they will start thinking what neo-colonialsm is doing in Kenya at the moment.<BR/>As my friend from the Caribbean told me, black people suffers from the effects of slavery, colonialism and it high time "21st century" that we address this issues and stop thinking Jaluo, Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Kamba, Kisii the list goes on to Ibo`s and Zulus etc.<BR/>Election only took a day, and the stupidness of uneducated in Kenya sorry to say and Intelectuals abroad have been compromised by two people. Kibaki and Raila "millionaires" They are now spilling poor peoples blood for their own selfihness, greed and power hunger. What do you think they want to accomplish? Protect their ill gotten wealth some of which have been stashed in foreign banks (safe deposits) while poor Kibera voters slaughter one another and others in Eldoret and nyanza burn their loved neighbours houses because they are from different tribes. And as we speak, kibaki and Raila are tossing champagne and shouting loud "cheers". They all go to bed together. These guys are crooks, i quote John Kerry when Bush was declared the USA President the second time. After rigging Florida votes where his brother was Governor.<BR/><BR/>KENYANS, I PLEAD WITH YOU. LET US WORK, STUDY AND GO BACK TO KENYA AND DEVELOP OUR NATION. KIBAKI IS 76 YRS come on, RAILA 62 YEARS hihi getting there, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK. These people have never experienced poverty and the people dying are hardly 30 years old. ARE WE BUILDING OR DESTROYING OUR FUTURE?<BR/>These guys are senile, and the reason i`m saying that is because of the lifestyle they have. Ordinary Kenyans should come together as brothers and sisters and oust these guys out of office and out of our way and take charge of our country.<BR/><BR/>They have so much money; they can live wherever they want without in this world without working until they die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29716356790888200012007-12-31T05:16:00.000-08:002007-12-31T05:16:00.000-08:00Go to Google News David Miliband says he has 'real...Go to Google News <BR/>David Miliband says he has 'real concerns' over the election<BR/> <BR/><BR/>AFP - 18 hours ago<BR/>Full coverage »<BR/>Miliband concerned over Kenya vote<BR/>18 hours ago<BR/><BR/>Britain has appealed to Kenyan politicians to avoid further bloodshed after its president was re-elected in a poll marred by violence over accusations of vote rigging on both sides.<BR/><BR/>Foreign Secretary David Miliband said he had "real concerns" about reported irregularities which have sparked violent protests that have left at least 15 people dead.<BR/><BR/>Mwai Kibaki was sworn in after being declared the victor over rival Raila Odinga who immediately rejected the result, leading to further clashes.<BR/><BR/>In a joint statement with International Development Secretary Douglas Alexander, Mr Miliband said: "This is a pivotal moment for Kenya, a time when the democratic process and election outcome has to be seen to be fair in the eyes of the Kenyan people.<BR/><BR/>"We congratulate Kenyan voters for conducting their vote in an orderly and dignified manner. But we have real concerns at the irregularities reported by the EU observers and others.<BR/><BR/>"We call on all Kenya's political leaders and democratic institutions to work together to address those concerns, seriously, in a spirit of unity, and in a way which will bring the respect and support of the Kenyan people.<BR/><BR/>"Those leaders must also ensure the safety of Kenya's people - the tragic deaths this weekend have marred an otherwise peaceful election.<BR/><BR/>"That violence must not be repeated. We urge all sides to pursue their disputes peacefully through dialogue and the appeals process."<BR/><BR/>They went on: "Britain looks forward to working with a legitimately elected government of Kenya, which commands the support of the Kenyan people and which wants to advance the economic, social and democratic interests of the people of Kenya.<BR/><BR/>"We will be discussing ways forward with our European and other partners in the coming weeks."<BR/>Hosted by Copyright © 2007 The Press Association. All rights reserved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-7912295376793757892007-12-31T05:10:00.000-08:002007-12-31T05:10:00.000-08:00The ONLY way is to organize a Ukranian version of ...The ONLY way is to organize a Ukranian version of Kenya ORANGE revolution.<BR/><BR/>This is what is supposed to HAPPEN today at UHURU park rally.<BR/><BR/>Can u kill one million kenyans who come out to Uhuru park?DALAHOWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14009387214727360152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16740501400543319022007-12-31T01:22:00.000-08:002007-12-31T01:22:00.000-08:00All sed n done, can I av the last say? Thank You1!...All sed n done, can I av the last say? Thank You1!!<BR/>Guyz love ur neighbour do this n all will fall into place. Am in Timor-leste and the destruction the loss that they r xperiencing now is more than 20 yrs' work. We suffered 24 gd yrs whats 5?<BR/>Dont send inflammatory msgs hiding behind the pc. Can you guys say this face to face?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-19924861570780875082007-12-30T18:26:00.000-08:002007-12-30T18:26:00.000-08:00Although I am no longer proud to be a Kenyan, I to...Although I am no longer proud to be a Kenyan, I totally agree with the standard statement.<BR/><BR/>That Kibaki stole the elections is obvious. That Kibaki will find it hard to be welcomed anywhere except Central and Eastern is another fact. That Raila is the legitimate president of Kenyan is also a fact. <BR/><BR/>But now what? Burn the country? No. Please pray for peace. Look at Somalia, Rwanda, Ivory coast and the likes. We don't want to be like that. Lets protest but only peacefully. Let peace prevail. Kenya is bigger than any individual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42372050382846775452007-12-30T17:30:00.000-08:002007-12-30T17:30:00.000-08:00Found this inspring from the Standard Editorial:"....Found this inspring from the Standard Editorial:<BR/><BR/>"...But for now for winners and losers on the one hand, and the electorate on the other, Kenya must come first. Despite the fact that this General Election may now rival the massively rigged 1988 poll in notoriety and infamy and despite the fact that millions will feel cheated, the protagonists must not cause the country to burn.<BR/><BR/>Kenya is bigger than all of us."<BR/><BR/>-SOSIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-60420223716854573482007-12-30T17:11:00.000-08:002007-12-30T17:11:00.000-08:00As I write this many innocent lives and hard earne...As I write this many innocent lives and hard earned property are being lost in the Rift Valley while the Kibaki and his allies prepare to enjoy the powers of state. This is not right! He should talk to the opposition or else many people will lose their lives and property and this will lead to many dire consequences never seen before due to ripple effect and cause- reaction scenarios. Guns cannot pacify a people who think that votes were topped up to ensure legitimacy of a prefered canditate!<BR/>God bless our country and save us from self-destruction!<BR/>Bwana Kibaki show us the democracy we fought for.You cannot wish this away sir!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3402964485176730332007-12-30T17:05:00.000-08:002007-12-30T17:05:00.000-08:00There is a lot of to-and-fro bickering here that d...There is a lot of to-and-fro bickering here that does not help the very serios situation on the ground. Each of us has an opinion of what happened with the just concluded electoral process in Kenya. Any non-partisan view would agree that the process was not seen to be concluded fairly. This especially in a situaton where the difference in votes between RAO and MK was very small. While the letter of law states that the winner by whatever margin should be declared, the ECK failed to recognize that by hastily announcing the results, over 4.5m Kenyans felt cheated. It is the delicateness of this process that required that all concerned parties bend over backwards to ensure that the process is seen to be fair. This did not happen.<BR/><BR/>Now to the future, yes, MK may rule Kenya for the next five years. It should be remembered that in the next 5 years more millions of kenyas will be of votting age. These past few days they witnessed what happened and will remember this next time. While it is possible to massage results where the difference is small, it will not be possible to do so where the difference is in the millions. Kenya will get its hero whether Derek, Vikii, Deroo or anyone in this blog likes it or not. I dare say that there are even more people of Gema who today decided that they will not again vote the way they did, on tribal basis. They will not want to align themselves to a party known to grab power through un-democratic means. As one blogger here said, let us all take a deep breath and think. We must all arise from tribal politics that some peopole here preach. <BR/><BR/>TRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84384398215078262602007-12-30T16:46:00.000-08:002007-12-30T16:46:00.000-08:00ok kids, I think its time for you two to go to bed...ok kids, I think its time for you two to go to bed. This is a zone for mature debate. who cares whose mom is a whoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27210719070784950832007-12-30T15:31:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:31:00.000-08:00John Maina that is what I talked about. You choose...John Maina that is what I talked about. You choose to drag my family in the mud and I choose to call your promiscuos mother a whore because that is what she is.Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54783964573012939222007-12-30T15:21:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:21:00.000-08:00John Maina, language. Please, Chunga hiyo maneno. ...John Maina, language. Please, Chunga hiyo maneno. We are in a celebration mood and dont want a fight today. <BR/><BR/>The highest turnout in election has given us a new administration and we want to start kazi. Tomorrow is holiday. Then on Wednesday, Kazi iendelee<BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-46532139501056166352007-12-30T15:20:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:20:00.000-08:00Derek:If you seriously believe that things will be...Derek:<BR/><BR/>If you seriously believe that things will be back to normal tomorrow, then I want what you are smoking. And if you are not smoking anything then you must be living in a cocoon (or somewhere very safe).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47023341084262983912007-12-30T15:19:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:19:00.000-08:00Chriso,Mazee, mimi na wewe tunajua Kenya. Jamaa wa...Chriso,<BR/><BR/>Mazee, mimi na wewe tunajua Kenya. Jamaa wata riot siku tatu. hawana food, Mtoi ajaenda chuo na Mhindi anakutaka job. Uta DO.<BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27325285242571196482007-12-30T15:18:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:18:00.000-08:00Fact 4.5 million Kenyans voted for Kibaki. Fact, R...Fact 4.5 million Kenyans voted for Kibaki. Fact, Raila said he will accept the people's decision. Close to Kibaki's figures were raila's figures and our Kalonzo is not even complaining at all. That is why we want people like Kalonzo.<BR/><BR/>Yeye, job atapata. Atajichagulia job anataka.<BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-38437403935355356002007-12-30T15:17:00.001-08:002007-12-30T15:17:00.001-08:00my last comment to vikii. I didnt know you are 25...my last comment to vikii. I didnt know you are 25 yrs old. Now i understand. Its definately your parents you have directly benefitted from corruption and for you indirectly but you are directly intelluctually corrupted.<BR/><BR/>You do come across as educated but obviously through your parents corrupt money thats why you will vigourously defend the status quo, kibaki and kalonzo, moi, biwott etc.<BR/><BR/>But remember if you dont already know this deep down in your heart, that your parents ill-gotten wealth will haunt you guys and will be paid back regardless how long it takes.John Mainahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540452621698572923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-8916956362785276702007-12-30T15:17:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:17:00.000-08:00my last comment to vikii. I didnt know you are 25...my last comment to vikii. I didnt know you are 25 yrs old. Now i understand. Its definately your parents you have directly benefitted from corruption and for you indirectly but you are directly intelluctually corrupted.<BR/><BR/>You do come across as educated but obviously through your parents corrupt money thats why you will vigourously defend the status quo, kibaki and kalonzo, moi, biwott etc.<BR/><BR/>But remember if you dont already know this deep down in your heart, that your parents ill-gotten wealth will haunt you guys and will be paid back regardless how long it takes.John Mainahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540452621698572923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-1140759970453993502007-12-30T15:13:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:13:00.000-08:00It will be back to normal. Tomorrow, the landlord ...It will be back to normal. Tomorrow, the landlord will knock the door asking for rent. Next week kids are back to school and a new year start at work. Will you go to the ODM rallies or what? <BR/><BR/>It will back to normal. Maybe TRUST among the communities Helen, but the real thing is that naturally, Kenyans are not a fighting society. Kenyans witness bloood and run many miles away. <BR/><BR/>Do you see what happened in Molo the other day, even after assurances by the government, nobody want to go back. They will not startve for long. and the drought season is just around the corner. <BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-85399831135015727862007-12-30T15:11:00.002-08:002007-12-30T15:11:00.002-08:00Derek fikiria bana; tumia akili, juu intimidation ...Derek fikiria bana; tumia akili, juu intimidation has no room in a politically enlightened country like kenya today. I tell you that the whole mess created by Michuki and fellow homeguards is gonna boomerang right on their face in a matter of days. The thing is, the country is settling to absorb the magnitude of the echoes of downright mischief and blackmail. Time is ticking for a time bomb. we cannot slide back several light years ago just withing the blink of an eye.<BR/><BR/>watch this space, you may laugh now, but some will do it last and do it longest!<BR/><BR/>Much peace brother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59656955761822811332007-12-30T15:11:00.001-08:002007-12-30T15:11:00.001-08:00Derek, Kibaki stole the election. That's a fact. K...Derek, Kibaki stole the election. That's a fact. Kibaki cannot govern Kenya. That's a fact. There're too many disenfranchised voters out there who will not accept a Kibaki presidency. That's a fact. <BR/><BR/>He stole in broad daylight. He manufactured 500,000 votes. This is a sad day for Kenya. I'm crying for my country.<BR/><BR/>God bless her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-50913842922807441552007-12-30T15:11:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:11:00.000-08:00Gentlemen, Ladies ... let's attempt to transcend t...Gentlemen, Ladies ... let's attempt to transcend the petty bickering back and forth. Helen Okello has a good point. Certain facts observed at this election are quite un-characteristic conclusions of free and fair elections:<BR/><BR/>1. Credible observers are casting doubts,<BR/>2. Tallied results are not Tallying,<BR/>3. Loser is not conceding,<BR/>4. Recall the colorful mid-morning swearing ceremonies?<BR/><BR/>I insist that a a free-and-fair election must not only be free-and fair, but must also be see to be so.<BR/><BR/>So, let's all quit the bickering and address the facts that are blazingly glaring at us. Let's try to objective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-21191371326407749862007-12-30T15:08:00.001-08:002007-12-30T15:08:00.001-08:00Kivuitu said there was suspicious activity coming ...Kivuitu said there was suspicious activity coming From both ODM and PNU. Why are people only talking about PNU rigging. In Alego the winning MP got 99.3%, in another Western constituency one candidate got 0 votes ( didn't even vote For himselF? Unlikely!) <BR/>both PNU and ODM are all recycled crooks, hooligans and thieves. they all with very Few exceptions have been corrupt. IF one crook steals From another one I don't care because belive me those ODM holier than thou twerps were not going to to nada diFFerent. Many oF them are where they are because they had a connection with another crook. <BR/>There is no change these people would have brought do not be deceived!<BR/>I am also concerned at what would have happened to kikuyus when the Luo/Kalengin rich ODM takes over. these are two tribes that HATE kikuyus bitterly. No one has addressed that concern. Already the casualties who are standing out as reported in this blog are....Kikuyus. <BR/>Imagine a situation where ODM Formed a govt with only kikuyus in the opposition. SCARY!<BR/>however LET THERE BE PEACE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-8155612717510137352007-12-30T15:08:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:08:00.000-08:00Mwizi Kibaki epitomises everything that is wrong a...Mwizi Kibaki epitomises everything that is wrong about our prison system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-62546944780024539712007-12-30T15:07:00.000-08:002007-12-30T15:07:00.000-08:00Nothing will be back to normal, Derek. People who ...Nothing will be back to normal, Derek. People who delude themselves dance when their house is burning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com