tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post7597757677820171078..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Secret Agenda For Uhuru Succession Team?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-64404281719543275682010-08-23T12:41:35.135-07:002010-08-23T12:41:35.135-07:00lest notforget Naivasha PEV,this man belongs to ha...lest notforget Naivasha PEV,this man belongs to hagueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-13302491417657916752008-08-13T04:44:00.000-07:002008-08-13T04:44:00.000-07:00Kalamari and Vikii,You are right on the population...Kalamari and Vikii,<BR/><BR/>You are right on the population factor. It is in fact in the constitution - read the chapter on parliament.<BR/><BR/>Shifting power to parliament thru' Bomas or whatever will obviously require a review of the constituencies. Any one saying "no" wants power thru' unfair means. But I do not see an agreement on the distribution of new constituencies happening. So the presidential sytem will probably remain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-41876655340161935922008-08-11T23:25:00.000-07:002008-08-11T23:25:00.000-07:00Urxlnc, that is besides the point. I am not the on...Urxlnc, that is besides the point. I am not the one to prioritize programs for constituencies. I already tackled this subject when I told you that 2% of the fund should cater for "office expenses". Talk to your member of parliament or the chairman of your Constituency Development Committee and ask them why one is missing. My constituency has an office.<BR/><BR/>My point was that providing MPs with offices at Continental house has absolutely nothing to do with lack of offices at the constituency level. It is not a question of "either or". They are not mutually exclusive! <BR/><BR/>2.22, I will not waste my confirming or denying that I am a tribalist. If having a serious dislike for Raila is the true measure of a tribalist, then I want to be made chairman of that club of tribalists. I will proudly put that hat on.<BR/><BR/>2.31, you are very right. I prefer Kukubo to Raila. His party is in fact an affiliate of mine.Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84429670333986975642008-08-11T21:35:00.000-07:002008-08-11T21:35:00.000-07:00Bwana Kumekucha, obviously, you cannot live up to ...Bwana Kumekucha, obviously, you cannot live up to your name and it has yet to DAWN on you that Kenya is about to change. Being a dedicated ODM lightning rod whose job it is to spread negative propaganda, the fear, frustration and sheer terror within ODM ranks coming through from your post is palpable. <BR/>There is now an apparent REALISATION, to ODM's horror, that Kibaki is indeed crafting a strategy for making Kalonzo his successor in a strategy that makes sure that the interests of the GEMA communities are taken care of post 2012 through a partnership with Uhuru. The focus by blogs such as this one and newspapers like the Standard on Uhuru and insisting on lies that he will be a Presidential candidate in 2012 is but a cynical attempt to sow mistrust in the increasingly potent alliance between the Akamba and GEMA. The other stories by the media that Kibaki is working on a joint succession plan for 2012 with ODM to handover power to Raila, the Bondo Bumpkin, are just that, stories. Even if they were true, Kibaki would be left alone by the GEMA rank and file with his "project". How ironical that would be? mmh? <BR/>Uhuru himself has said repeatedly that GEMA should not have a Presidential candidate in 2012 but should back someone from another community, and so have many GEMA MPs, the latest appeal being over the last weekend. <BR/>The attempts at sowing seeds of discord are therefore no surprise and are a mere expression of the REALISATION that the path to the ultimate prize for the Bondo Bumpkin will be extremely difficult, even more so than in 2007.<BR/>Also, the sudden REALISATION that the insistence on equal parliamentary representation by GEMA communities whereby we must have as equitable representation as possible across the country based not only on population size but also on land expanse, is bound to advantage the PNU alliance far more than ODM. Those insisting that there will be no such constituency review are wasting their time farting in a hurricane. The boundary review WILL happen, or you can forget about a new constitution. Whether there is a parliamentary system or a Presidential system, its advantage PNU alliance. As we have repeatedly said on these pages, the Bondo Bumpkin WILL NEVER win the absolute power he craves. What a relief.Kimi Raikkonenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746369867832618011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-51903399933321476262008-08-11T16:16:00.000-07:002008-08-11T16:16:00.000-07:00vikiiwould you be so kind to point me to any examp...vikii<BR/><BR/>would you be so kind to point me to any example of a local MP office built with or without CDF fundsUrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-58410881102438967122008-08-11T14:31:00.000-07:002008-08-11T14:31:00.000-07:00Heeeheheee Vikii,Between Raila and Kukubo, I bet y...Heeeheheee Vikii,<BR/><BR/>Between Raila and Kukubo, I bet you would choose the latter for president. Loathe him with a passion, the man is igniting flames where non existed before. Understandably, RAILAPHOBICS like you are panicking because - it's business unsusual. <BR/>It's okay he won't bite....hard (GRRRRRRRR)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-18603109858700341232008-08-11T14:22:00.000-07:002008-08-11T14:22:00.000-07:00Vikii,You mean Uhuru can make a better president t...Vikii,<BR/><BR/>You mean Uhuru can make a better president than Raila? Please share some of these qualities that some of us have been looking for since 2002. <BR/><BR/>Again, rather than dismiss others' views and fears, why not first admit that you are a tribalist to the core.<BR/><BR/>Anon 12:42, am always suspicious of those that call others malaya - are you in the same trade? Have you been Raila' client? I understand you people are very organized and do not despise or call each other names unless one encroaches into the other's territory.<BR/>Whatever the case, keep your dirty secrets to yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3535869977162861142008-08-11T13:57:00.000-07:002008-08-11T13:57:00.000-07:00Vikii - do not mislead us from the obvious fact th...Vikii - do not mislead us from the obvious fact that politics is played both in abstract and public domain. Kibaki doesn't have to make public pronouncements supporting Uhuru. By mere making of gestures to the effect of re-aligning political under-currents does not help exonerate him. Moi did it and we all know the end result yet people like tried very hard to mislead the electorate away from the ultimate goal of project uhuru.<BR/><BR/>Personally I believe it is within uhuru's democratic right to harbor leadership ambition as from 2012 but on the same premise it's justified for people contributing to this post to express their misgivings about his leadership abilities. After all I thought that is what politics is all about and that gives people like Karua the right to play their political trumpets.<BR/><BR/>At least I respect you because you justify every observation you make unlike many of anonymouses here who are outrightly dismissive and slanderous without without showing cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-88060580806458299262008-08-11T13:48:00.000-07:002008-08-11T13:48:00.000-07:00andy capp @ 1:33 why do you need list of athletes ...andy capp @ 1:33 why do you need list of athletes for???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-45829326743607024872008-08-11T13:33:00.000-07:002008-08-11T13:33:00.000-07:00Can somebody tell me where I can find a list of al...Can somebody tell me where I can find a list of all the Kenyan athletes in Beijing including their respective sport?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68598135063615398882008-08-11T13:03:00.000-07:002008-08-11T13:03:00.000-07:00There is nothing like a behind-the-scenes maneuver...There is nothing like a behind-the-scenes maneuver that is not within the acceptable democratic space of every leader going on anywhere. I am yet to see anything that Hon Kibaki has done to unfairly grant Uhuru an edge in the coming polls. He is a kenyan who has preferences like all of us. Unless he uses his position as president to undemocratically propel Uhuru, then I will say he is entitled to his choice. I am also sure Raila Odinga has a preference (probably himself). Everybody else does.<BR/><BR/>I honestly do not understand the flack that UK has been getting. Martha Karua and her people have been demonising him left, right and centre and he is yet to declare interest in the presidency. In fact he doesnt criss-cross the country as much as Raila, Kalonzo and Martha do. He is not campaigning for anything. Even if he were, what would be wrong with that? The fact that his father was president does not disqualify him from beng one as well. Let us not selectively put "dynasty" tags on people. If we want to do that, then let us understand what it really means first.<BR/><BR/>Urxlnc, any constituency that does not have an office six years after the inception of the CDF, then it has a very valid case before the KACC or the AG. Otherwise, where should the publc meet the MP? In their homes/bar/marketplace? All I am saying is, this is not a problem created by the central government. The treasury has released money for that role. It is up to the respective Constituency Development Committees to get their act together.Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-24354120758179480782008-08-11T12:42:00.001-07:002008-08-11T12:42:00.001-07:00Anon 11:14 Raila ni shetani, asindwe toto ya malay...Anon 11:14 Raila ni shetani, asindwe toto ya malaya mbaya!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-33609744197588658792008-08-11T12:42:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:42:00.000-07:00vikiiyou know as well as i do that most MPs do not...vikii<BR/><BR/>you know as well as i do that most MPs do not have consituency offices, which is where they should spend a considerable amount of time complete with an appointment calendar. the more proactive MPs who also run businesses will typically see those they can from their business offices<BR/><BR/>as for the exact ammenities and comforts of the offfice, i would leave that to the constituents to decide, its their money. but my point is that MPS should be mandated to sit in a local office for at least 30% of the calendar year to meet with constituents, spend another 30% in parliament and the remaining 40% between public functions, vacation and other ad-hoc duties and committees.<BR/><BR/>cabinet ministers of course can adjust these %ages.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-32525407052694737752008-08-11T12:35:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:35:00.000-07:00we are not a monarchy/dynasty and so the issue of ...we are not a monarchy/dynasty and so the issue of succession should not arise. <BR/><BR/>people who want express interest to lead, need to present their case to the electorate, i quite agree with vikii on that. <BR/><BR/>if there are behind the scenes lobbying and leveraging or otherwise manipulating incumbency resources then that is not a succession fight, its dictatorship and electoral fraud. i think all kenyans are aware of the implications and are not ready for that, no matter who is involved. its the same stupidity as wekesa announcement in the newspaper that PNU and ODM are working on a grand coalition 2012, these are the empty politicians who want to fool people so that they remain in govt/MP till death.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-44698134979710747702008-08-11T12:33:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:33:00.000-07:00Anon, 11.14, is it my personal preferences you wan...Anon, 11.14, is it my personal preferences you want? Well, I will give you that anytime. The answers to your three questions are as follows:<BR/>1. Uhuru<BR/>2. Kalonzo<BR/>3. Kalonzo.<BR/><BR/>If you have any other question, feel freee to ask.<BR/><BR/>Urxlnc,my understanding of the cdf act is not puncture-proof. But one thing I know is that MPs are authorized, by law, to spend 2% of their budget allocation on their local offices. Taking the average of kshs 30 million that every constituency gets, it means any constituency that does not have an office running already should seriously consider its priorities. I do not get what your point on this is and I want to hope you are not suggesting continental-style wall-to wall carpet and state-of-the-art offices in isiolo and Mwea.Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68729729444021307712008-08-11T12:12:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:12:00.000-07:00talking about the constituency reviews. in this co...talking about the constituency reviews. in this context we will be lying if we ignore that the primary push by kiraitu and co is purely for numerical parliamentary strength (read control of PM post and any other parliamentary business). but having said that there probably is some good cause to review constituency boundaries whether it means add new constituencies or reduce.<BR/><BR/>to understand this better it needs to come from the MPs and the constituents. i.e the purpose of these admin boundaries is first to group or cluster these communities whether by culture, geography or other criteria but most important is the service delivery and a word being used loosely i.e representation.<BR/><BR/>if an MP has been heard to claim that he is unable to effectively serve (represent) his constituents and then list the reasons such as reach (geographic or cultural limitation) or time (too many requests perhaps due to large population) then this would certainly among other criteria justify evaluation the administrative boundaries. at the same time this needs to be evaluated against efficiency of representation as well as service delivery methods and explore alternatives. for instance for a resource rich constituency (generating sufficient revenue) it may make more sense to channel some of the resources towards establishing more admin boundaries. it would be foolish to create more admin structures just because of geography or whatever other criteria if there isn't sufficient resources to sustain such and this would lead to even more expenses on an already over-burdened central govt.<BR/><BR/>we all know for a fact that by improving on efficiencies and where possible making use of fairly basic technology, service delivery (and representation) to a very large population is easily achievable and with increased technology geographic boundaries are no longer an insurmountable obstacle or limitation. i have always wondered why a lot of effort was made to provide MPs with offices adjacent to parliament building and almost no effort has been made to construct or provide offices in the local district or constituency offices. so wananchi usually try very hard to catch the MP either at home, public functions, roadsides etc. no wonder psycophants rule the world as they grant or block access to these guys.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-43243012434467086702008-08-11T11:33:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:33:00.000-07:00Anon 11:24, you just took those words from my mind...Anon 11:24, you just took those words from my mind. yes, I share the same sentiment with you, why do people here like using caps. Is that how you were taught to write in school? Whenever I see any comment in caps, i just jump over to the next comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-4225003407172758582008-08-11T11:32:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:32:00.000-07:00Anon@11:17- At times exhibiting fear is appropriat...Anon@11:17- At times exhibiting fear is appropriate if there is a concern that your reason to exist is being challenged. How you address the challenge is what will differentiate you from others.<BR/><BR/>Talking of hate hear is unprecedented because the gist of the post is a serious matter that must be addressed. Mere dismissal of it with telling us where you are coming from and heading to does help. It is men who can discuss their differences and reach a compromise but being dismissive is just worse as the hate your strongly dislike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59247896071596046242008-08-11T11:24:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:24:00.000-07:00For the jamaa that writes in caps. Me and a whole ...For the jamaa that writes in caps. Me and a whole lot of people would really appreciate if you tone it down. Your comments however seriously make us think u r shouting and while it's yr democratic right to shout, you are not the only one in this blog. Tone it down kidogo and we might take you more seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54334659563516558952008-08-11T11:23:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:23:00.000-07:00It is noble to make an argument for considering al...It is noble to make an argument for considering all aspects of potential effects dividing the so called populous constituencies. I still stand by my point that we should desist from making such a serious decision based on how an MP can give individualized attention to his constituents but on how best he/she can lobby for resources that would enhance the whole community's development.<BR/><BR/>We should not forget that by electing an MP, constituents are finding someone who can represent their voice on national agenda but if we are looking for micro-representation, then we better find other ways to enhance local representation that would feed into the MP's role at the national level. As someone once said here, if we were to consider all the different interest groups in the name of democracy then we may end up with 1000 MPs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79565714726222576122008-08-11T11:17:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:17:00.000-07:00I guess Kumekucha will do and say anything to rema...I guess Kumekucha will do and say anything to remain in the light. This article is the lowest version any blogging site can allow. Fear....fear..... fear is all you preach. Now I must hand it down to the site for creating an avenue during for information sharing during the post election period. But nothing solid has come from the site since.<BR/><BR/>Stop preaching fear and hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-36541453886180080162008-08-11T11:14:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:14:00.000-07:00Vikii,Who would you vote for if you had to choose ...Vikii,<BR/><BR/>Who would you vote for if you had to choose between <BR/><BR/>1.Raila and Uhuru<BR/><BR/>2. Raila and Kalonzo<BR/><BR/>3. Uhuru and KalonzoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48447026917593054222008-08-11T11:09:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:09:00.000-07:00Vikii - don't be dismissive of people who are expr...Vikii - don't be dismissive of people who are expressing their dislikes of Uhuru's leadership qualities because that is the same thing you have always done against Raila. <BR/><BR/>Everyone here has a right to discuss the pros and cons of their potential future leaders. Don't play monopoly of ideas with usAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61131514874971319072008-08-11T11:08:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:08:00.000-07:00Vikii,Good arguments,In your last statement you as...Vikii,<BR/><BR/>Good arguments,<BR/><BR/>In your last statement you asked what the big deal is. Well, i would like to tie this to your beginning headline - fear of the unknown.<BR/>We are all aware that without strong systems and institutions in place, we have to have a real fear about th outcome of any election. I'm an optimist, but also acutely aware of the possibility that we may have a leader 'shoved down our throats'.<BR/>My fear as I wrote an earlier post is that, what if this 'leader' happens to be Uhuru,should we just live with it because it was his democratic right to stand and he 'won and was declared winner?'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-82121630200930814632008-08-11T10:55:00.000-07:002008-08-11T10:55:00.000-07:00Fear of the unknown.As far as I am concerned, the ...Fear of the unknown.<BR/><BR/>As far as I am concerned, the clamour for the review of constituency boundaries has not been started by UK.We have had our constituency boundaries reviewed (read number of constituencies increased) every 10 years. The last time that happened was 1997. It was due again last year, but due to the same fears about electoral defeats, the same insecurities Chris and his students are raising here, combined with Mwai Kibaki's weak leadership, that never happened. My opinion is that Kibaki has spent way too much time trying to appear good.<BR/><BR/>When Kiraitu Murungi rekindled this debate last year, he talked about two criteria being followed; the population as well as geographical vastness. Nobody is suggesting that population should be the only guiding factor in the reviews (although it is the most democratic). We all should agree that Embakasi deserves a split pretty much the same way Turkana central and North Horr do.It does not make sense when the MP for North Horr represents a constituency the size of Western province (represented by 24 members of parliament). On the same breadth, it does not make sense for Hon Waititu to represent 50 times more people than the MP for Wajir west.<BR/><BR/>If you look at the election of 1992, you will agree that it was a very close rae between President Moi and ken Matiba (1.8 M vs 1.3M). Now look at the number of parliamentary seats their parties got. Moi got 109 and Matiba got 31 seats. Is that what anybody would consider representative democracy? The same thing happened again between then president Moi and President kibaki in 1997. All this while the opposition kept complaining that they were getting a raw deal due to the skewed nature of the constituencies. It is why Moi kept getting less than 40% of the national vote but still controlled large majorities in parliament. The argument the opposition had in 1992 and 1997 was valid then, it is valid today.<BR/><BR/>The fellow that gives the example of Embakasi and says the population should not matter because the job of an MP is to line the pockets of their constituencies, I have one thing for you, buddy; Yours is a ridiculous argument. If they are building a dispensary, a school or a mortuary in any constituency, dont they look at the number of people expected to be served by these facilities? Do you honestly think a waste disposal facility in Embakasi should get as little attention as the one in Kitui? How many wards should a health centre in Kikuyu constituency have vis-a-vis the one in Garsen?<BR/><BR/>About the leadership qualities of UK and his 'dim' chances of ascending to the presidency, if we trully believe what we say,why do we spend all our time talking about it? Kenya is a democracy and Uhuru has the democratic right to position himself for any electoral leadership role he wants.It is upto the people to vote for him or to reject him. people talk as if he is a Somali national seeking office in Kenya. Go ahead and vote for whoever you think will make a better president than uhuru. Uhuru has not declared he will be running for president but if and when he finally does, those who consider him good will vote for him. Please dont if you dont approve of his leadership qualities. The same thing goes for Kalonzo, Martha, Raila and whoever else you have in mind. What's the big deal?Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.com