tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post7339964772298975057..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Kibaki Suspends Ruto in Debut Mashujaa JabUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger117125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-70911132332616614592010-10-24T23:54:27.276-07:002010-10-24T23:54:27.276-07:00@Philip,
Bw. Philip let me try and sort out your...@Philip,<br /><br /><br />Bw. Philip let me try and sort out your confusion. You are aware that the genesis of the land question begun with the colonial masters and further made worse by the subsequent Kenyatta and Moi regimes.<br /><br />Now why do I blame Kikuyus/ Kenyatta??? Not to bore you with Kenyattas history - we all know he is THE BIGGEST LAND THUG! In Kenyas history and Kikuyus ( GEMA - Is simply an assembled Kikuyu political machinery to maintain the status quo -atrocities committed by their leadership which they support , the EMA are just sheep) for supporting the KIKUYU aristocrats.<br /><br />Ruto's "cosmetic alliance" as I call it is for obvious reasons; POLITICAL SUPREMACY! You will agree with me that He is playing politics - Raila poses the biggest threat, and its easier to topple Uhuru and Kalonzo who on a one to one front cannot battle it out with Ruto - so why not blame Raila for all your woes to consolidate RV support, lest the Moi equation comes in. <br /><br />So Rutos 'cosmetic alliance' is for his personal political gain, but it also provides an opportunity for the Kalenjin to ascend to power.<br /><br />Philip, you have noted that we call ourselves "warriors" and we have a good reason why - we are not fools to give out our name like the Mungiki, Chinkororo, SLDF etc but we exist and we are also watching our leadership kinly (read Ruto) and shall deal with him if he betrays our cause - remember what gave rise to the 'Mungiki' menace.<br /><br />The government is busy cracking down on proscribed sects, but I can assure you they will not catch up with us.<br /><br />We have successfully adapted to almost every political climate, faced numerous difficulties and tough times, and yet we still come out on top. Our strategy departs from the status quo and resurrects subjugated knowledge and ways of being that were intentionally suppressed by the existing power structure.<br /><br />Thats why I have been met with severe "intellectual attacks" from the likes of Bobby6killer - thinking that the Lembus info that he got from wikipedia is of any help and one Shonde ya Ngamia who has no iota of idea of the composition of the military spit, I only but pity them.<br /><br />Those who have been following news know that the government lost the arms race long time ago, even when Michuki ordered a disarmament exercise in RV led by our "able" army they simply LOST! So the likes of 'Shonde ya Ngamia' who think that Electricity and Eldoret bullet factory will sustain the RV war are just but IDIOTS! Disillusioned with the KAF.<br /><br />We all want to bring about a better Kenya, a Kenya that is more equitable, loving and full of joy. Yet, when we seek to redress contemporary conditions through transactional politics, we do so within the existing cultural norms.<br /><br />On the Uhuru and Ruto "alliance" - Nothing concerns us more than for intelligent people to make decisions not on FACT but on illusions. This to us seems to be shortsighted even as it has the power to help some people in the moment.<br /><br />Philip the FUNDAMENTAL issue remains to be land, for arguments sake we must revisit these issue so that we may learn from them and hopefully posterity will judge our activities.<br /><br />I hope I have tried to make you understand why I hold this extreme ideological position.<br /><br />What would you suggest as a solution that would create a lasting structure or set of habits that prevent such dangers from resurging years, decades or centuries later???.<br /><br />The KK LAND expert is yet to offer any solutions which I hope wont be SUPERFICIAL to this deep-seated problem.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has Spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-28204688834859371002010-10-24T12:29:00.022-07:002010-10-24T12:29:00.022-07:00What's wrong with a Luo president
or a Teso, L...What's wrong with a Luo president<br />or a Teso, Luhya or a Kisii or even a Maasai? Must it be a Kale or a Kikuyu? Does it really matter.<br /><br />In the new constitution the governor will be more relevant to the people than the president.<br /><br />Suppose Ruto leads the Eldo County and steals 50millions. will you support him? Suppose Kirauti becomes Gov of Meru County and steal 1 Billion will Meru pple be proud of him?<br /><br />Suppose Kajuang becomes Gov of Rachuonyo County and steals 200 millions will Luos smile at him?<br /><br />Kumekucha Kenya! Kenya is more important than the tribes.<br /><br />Let's build Kenya and stop supporting THUGSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-12461310077380565352010-10-24T11:32:20.149-07:002010-10-24T11:32:20.149-07:00Oracle
I've read your comments and I'm co...Oracle<br /><br />I've read your comments and I'm confused and curious. The way you are speaking you seem to be blaming Kikuyus, or if I'm wrong, Kenyatta. If you believe they are the cause of the problems affecting Kalenjins now, then what is the reason behind Ruto fighting Raila and not Kibaki or Uhuru?<br /><br />Nonetheless my stand is that time has arrived where we need to understand our problems first, causes of these problems and then solutions to the problems, and not start with the leaders first, or tribe. Maybe, as someone said earlier, or as Mwarangethe normally says, we can go ahead and exterminate such leaders or tribe and still find that we still have those problems.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14320652530759368444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-25766821778173289042010-10-24T11:31:59.863-07:002010-10-24T11:31:59.863-07:00Kibaki suspends Ruto and Raila pays for it with lo...Kibaki suspends Ruto and Raila pays for it with loss of Kalenjins' votes. Isn't that beautiful domo-less politics by Kibaki?<br /><br />Now comes succession-management politics Kibaki style. And you, human worshippers out there measuring State House curtains, don't say you were not warned!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-82092841762591460222010-10-24T10:17:29.327-07:002010-10-24T10:17:29.327-07:00Wah, when was the last time a post on KK received ...Wah, when was the last time a post on KK received so many comments, Oracle though some of your comments are far fetched some make a lot of sense.<br /><br />Bw. Oracle if you simply move away and shun Tribalism and embrace nationalism am sure we can all work together.<br /><br />You seem intelligent enough and some of the guys here are unable to hold a candle against you. <br /><br />Why don't you use your intellect to preach peace! among your brethren, you have also exposed the ugly side of the likes of Bobby6killer, let it rest now.<br /><br />KENYANS FOR PEACEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54242380974105927442010-10-24T10:05:48.922-07:002010-10-24T10:05:48.922-07:00@ Oracle you mentioned Moi as a footnote yet his s...@ Oracle you mentioned Moi as a footnote yet his selling out is the cause of your woes. You should've lynched him when he was VP & saved us all from 24 years in the wilderness. Since you've refused to accept my modest proposal, I guess we just have to wait & see whether ruto is a phoenix or a spent cockerel.<br /><br />Truth be told I feel sorry for ruto. Back in march when he rode shoulder to shoulder with Kibaki in the CIC's ceremonial vehicle in eldoret, he must've thought state house was just around the corner. He had poked Raila in the eye & gotten away with it. He's learned the hard way that the sloth on the hill sleeps with one eye open.<br /><br />@ anon 9:22 & 9:33 as far as new leadership is concerned: <br /> <br />'Misitu tofauti, nyani<br />wale wale' - PLO Lumumba<br /><br />& going by oracle's following ruto "to the grave" comments, the same clearly applies to a chunk of the electorate. <br /><br />Bobby6KillerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-22445964120996216142010-10-24T09:33:51.246-07:002010-10-24T09:33:51.246-07:00I dont care who will be the next president of Keny...I dont care who will be the next president of Kenya. <br /><br />As long as he is patriotic, law obedient, democratic and development minded, non-corrupt. I wouldnt mind. And sure I dont care whether he/she is from West, East, North-Eastern, South or North. I wouldnt even mind if he is a homosexual, a lesbian or short, tall or a pigmy.<br /><br />We want straight people in this country. At the moment there are very few. And Ruto is the last I would vote for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-35603264628094369982010-10-24T09:22:34.093-07:002010-10-24T09:22:34.093-07:00Tribalism is the cancer under Kenya's skin. Ru...Tribalism is the cancer under Kenya's skin. Ruto is a thief, a known thief. He now runs to the Kalenjin for help.<br /><br />Wetangula is another sly crook. He is running to the Luhyas for assistance.<br /><br />Soon Otieno Kajuang will be running to hide behind the Luos just like Kimunyua successfully did.<br /><br />Fellow Kenyans how long will we remain stupid to realize that we are protecting the wrong people?<br /><br />We have a new Katiba but it will only function, if we stick to democracy and justice instead of the outdated tribal thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-71253345322447494512010-10-24T09:01:23.460-07:002010-10-24T09:01:23.460-07:00Anon 6.44 a.m
I haven't dealt with you so I...Anon 6.44 a.m <br /><br />I haven't dealt with you so I don't have your name but we can use "Fcuk Face" temporarily ama?<br /><br />You are another case of selective reading and amnesia.<br /><br />If you read my post on 10/21/10 6.37 AM.... I said..<br /><br />"what will STOP our warrior king from reneging against the alliance and still go for the presidency"..<br /><br />Plus I also said striking the belly of the enemy when the right time arrives. I would rather lose in a cause that I know will someday triumph. <br /><br />GEMA cannot take any action which will significantly change its image in the country until they are willing to sincerely and thoroughly examine their own past kapish.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84724092480027609902010-10-24T08:33:20.999-07:002010-10-24T08:33:20.999-07:00Ooooh! Is that you Shonde ya Ngamia as Anon 6.30a....Ooooh! Is that you Shonde ya Ngamia as Anon 6.30a.m.<br /><br />Woishe do I smell defeat, there is a lot I can teach you about war, you have not shown much sincerity on the part of my criticism, just noted that you are looking for some kind of excuse as you are in denial of the obvious truth.<br /><br />If you at first knew that you were not going to succeed, you should have destroyed all evidence that you tried ama?<br /><br />Here I was banking on you on Lt.Gen Karangi question regarding Eldoret and all you do is change the words NKT.<br /><br />I can sense your frustration, I also understand as it now brings hopefully to an end your unsuccessfull struggle with me. I can now comfortably write your post-mortem.<br /><br />R.I.P Shonde ya Ngamia.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-28605657545704431122010-10-24T08:21:39.552-07:002010-10-24T08:21:39.552-07:00@Bobby6Killer... I had requested you provide a via...@Bobby6Killer... I had requested you provide a viable solution to the LAND question...am still waiting so STFU! - let the KK LAND expert come to your aid.<br /><br />Mmmh! Lembus & Essageri... Plus "Does his (Moi) being Kalenjin make it any less of a "land grab"? Siasi gani hii! I mentioned Moi alongside the Biggest thug Kenyatta.<br /><br />You still don't understand or seem to comprehend the mission of the warriors bwana KILLER. If you have followed my comments you will note that I mentioned Jean Marie Seroney, unless you are practising selective reading.<br /><br />As you are aware Moi was guaranteed and rewarded his promotion by Kenyatta when he stiffled RV's constitutional aspirations, he shifted the resources to the North rift for the benefit of the Tugen.<br /><br />All this as a result of the compromises he made with the Kikuyu over Nakuru bwana KILLER.<br /><br />Bwana Killer you of all people you know its not possible to swallow medicine without the knowledge of the throat.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-25788395217895086212010-10-24T07:37:48.340-07:002010-10-24T07:37:48.340-07:00@ Oracle I wonder why you give Moi a minor mention...@ Oracle I wonder why you give Moi a minor mention yet he was instrumental in ensuring the Tugen got large tracts of land in Lembus Forest & Essageri Salient. He was VP & could've put a stop to it if he liked. Does his being a Kalenjin make it any less of a "land grab"? Like it or not these plots were bought inspite of a valiant effort by Seroney to protect Nandi interests.<br /><br />A tiny portion of the $2 billion (KES 180 billion) looted by Moi's men would be better used in buyback schemes than languishing in offshore numbered accounts which can be easily frozen & thus lost to wazungu bankers. Your leaders past & present need not part with much of their "savings" to accomplish this. Investments in Mobitelea, Air Kenya & the like can easily finance RV's return to the decendants of the orkoiyots & they wouldn't feel the pinch. <br /><br />Bobby6KillerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68903575828484605172010-10-24T06:50:28.686-07:002010-10-24T06:50:28.686-07:00Just taking a peep on this dying blog called Kumek...Just taking a peep on this dying blog called Kumekucha.<br /><br />Bw. Oracle why not cross over to Jukwaa, we need people who are able to produce and arouse hits and responses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-88317500640663603432010-10-24T06:44:04.699-07:002010-10-24T06:44:04.699-07:00So now Bw.'Oracle' admits there is an alli...So now Bw.'Oracle' admits there is an alliance between Uhuru and Ruto in the making, albeit eti a 'cosmetic' one according to him. This after categorically declaring 2 days ago such an alliance will NEVER happen. LOL! What an ar.se.hole. You have no idea what is going on even in your backyard and your siasa radar is even lower than Sirma's, bloody ghasia! LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-87369931823945120712010-10-24T06:30:10.776-07:002010-10-24T06:30:10.776-07:00Like i said Bw.'Oracle', you cannot tell m...Like i said Bw.'Oracle', you cannot tell me anything about warfare. A few questions and i could tell you are just another shirtless, ignorant hothead chestthumping his kakifua ya kuku. Wewe ni nongwe tu. There is no point arguing with a guy who has no idea that his dick is being played with, and it ain't him. What a waste of a human being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59445848570412402192010-10-24T06:18:19.703-07:002010-10-24T06:18:19.703-07:00Bobby6killer said...
"Let him & his cron...Bobby6killer said...<br /><br />"Let him & his cronies foot the bill for legal & peaceful buyback shemes. It will cost you nothing at all".. Ahaaa!<br /><br />"Give out loans to enable your people to buy back the stolen / sold land"... Lahaula la kwata. You may afford to buy stolen property but it will never cease being an illegal purchase - how about I acquire your LAND illegally, and sell it back to you, as you also service the LOAN borrowed from the barons huh! You should just have STFU!!! - LET THE KK LAND EXPERT ASSIST.<br /><br />Let me share with you a quote by Ernest B. <br /><br />He aptly says ..."Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly & applying the wrong remedy"<br /><br />You have duly & correctly so, named Moi & cronies but you have forgotten the BIGGEST LAND THUG! In Kenya's history - JOMO KENYATTA!, others like Delamare, Brooke Bond, Davidson, Moi deserve a notable mention.<br /><br />But just a reminder, history is very clear, the Kalenjin and Kikuyu do not see eye to eye. The "cosmetic" alliance to be, between GEMA and Ruto notwithstanding, will be just that COSMETIC. We are aware of the GEMA divide-and-rule-dictum.<br /><br />We know GEMA chief Aristocrat - UK 'abandoned' Ruto during the referendum and ofcourse 'Kuku in Chief' Kalonzo, who thinks that he will use the Kalenjin as a springboard to his political ascendancy.<br /><br />The requisite land reforms require a political solution just like Nakuru was a politicized settlement plus we credibly know that GEMA has no political will.<br /><br />Plato correctly said: Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.<br /><br />If Ruto leads the Kalenjok to reclaim what is ours -we are prepared to follow him to the grave, if not, Kiboko yake iko.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spoken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-77129788491829913352010-10-24T03:32:34.803-07:002010-10-24T03:32:34.803-07:00@ Oracle. That depends entirely on how your people...@ Oracle. That depends entirely on how your people want to go about it. In my view, those barazas your wazees & "warriors" use to plot mayhem & eviction of the "madoadoa" in your "ancestral lands" & attacks on your neighboring communities to redraw boundaries could be used positively. Why not invite the Ruto's, Moi & sons, Biwot, Kulei & all other Kalenjin mafia players who have become super wealthy to provide your people with seed capital to set up companies to buy back land sold to "outsiders" at market rates? Give out loans to enable your people to buy back the stolen/sold land. <br /><br />These tycoons owe you & your people that to get them started since you have been willing foot soldiers & unquestioning pawns in their power games since 1992. Moi's self fulfilling prophecies of chaos due to multiparty politics were engineered by him. Let him & his cronies foot the bill for legal & peaceful buyback schemes. It will cost you nothing at all. <br /><br />Bobby6KillerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-49500340765552167262010-10-24T03:03:01.083-07:002010-10-24T03:03:01.083-07:00LOL! Ati Mr. Shonde ya Ngamia, seems the Oracle ha...LOL! Ati Mr. Shonde ya Ngamia, seems the Oracle has beaten you in this philandering game.<br /><br />My advice to you is to ignore this ORACLE BASTARD! Lest he continues exposing your shortcomings, the more you give him attention, the more he sweeps the floor with you.<br /><br />But your GEMA pride won't let you.<br /><br />The Whore-racol hash sipokeni.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-1937455661412109702010-10-24T02:08:10.039-07:002010-10-24T02:08:10.039-07:00@Bobby6Killer,
You see we have to face the fact t...@Bobby6Killer,<br /><br />You see we have to face the fact that either all of us are going to die together or we are going to learn to live together after injustices have been corrected.<br /><br />You seem like a sober man Bobby6Killer, probably more sober than I, how would you propose that we engage in land injustices??? Seeing that TJRC is now a circus, do give a satisfactory answer that will appease my people or just STFU! <br /><br />@Shonde ya Ngamia as Anon 11.06pm it seems that I can talk and piss you off at the same time. Please, don't take life too seriously; you won't get out alive.<br /><br />Mmmh! It seems that you have realised that the gravity of the situation after looking at the military composition and the ratio of KA:KAF.<br /><br />You seem to be avoiding my question, i guess coz you have no idea. Why didn't Lt.Gen Karangi not blow up Eldoret? He he he ha haaa. NKT. <br /><br />And why are you so obsessed with Eldoret bullet factory? and who said all illegal arms come from Somalia?? Damn why do people who know the least know it the loudest.<br /><br />The Kind of ammunition that has been stock piled allows us to make war at pleasure Mr. Shonde, seems you can't follow what I write.<br /><br />Moving on swiftly, RAO should prepare to settle the Mau brothers in 3 months. GEMA needs us more than we need them, NO KIKUYU for 2012 PERIOD!<br /><br />Shonde ya Ngamia did you say hi to your mother, wished she used birth control pills before she got you, but she's learnt her mistake.<br /><br />Have a shonde day will you.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-82435176906161214882010-10-23T23:06:47.832-07:002010-10-23T23:06:47.832-07:00Oracle, kweli wewe ni mharo wa shoga. Hehehe! eti ...Oracle, kweli wewe ni mharo wa shoga. Hehehe! eti warriors operate in the dark, so what? You can operate all night it won't make a single difference, and if you think you can arm yourselves with smuggled weaponry, you are a fool. Where will you smuggle them from in large enough quantities since you cant get them from Somalia as that route is blocked? Will they be rusted, poorly maintained guns from Pokot or Toposa land? Even if you get guns, you still need bullets, millions of rounds to conduct effective war!<br />When you claimed you will siphon fuel from trucks to run your war machine is when i knew you have no clue what the demands of real warfare are. That kind of fuel supply will probably last one or two days, and then?<br />When you decide to quote Sun Tzu, make sure you understand his lessons because you obviously have no idea what he was talking about. Una akili ndogo kama ya kuku! Sasa nenda ukapanguse mkundu, haraka! Ghasia hii!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54514181776569080712010-10-23T19:31:33.832-07:002010-10-23T19:31:33.832-07:00Oracle, we know from the nazi experience that just...Oracle, we know from the nazi experience that just because you do not target my neck today it doesn't mean that you will not cast your net wider once you have neutralized your current perceived enemy. All communities in this country have a positive role to play if you look beyond stereotypes & xenophobic arguments. There is strength in diversity afterall. I would hazard a guess that if you uprooted GEMA & non Kalenjin folk from the former RVP, the economy there would actually nosedive. <br /><br />"I object to violence because when it<br />appears to do good, the good is only<br />temporary; the evil it does is<br />permanent.<br />"<br />Mahatma Gandhi<br /><br />Bobby6Killer (I am a commentator on the blog. The bloggers have left us without a new item to discuss)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-20804390988714422812010-10-23T17:11:07.021-07:002010-10-23T17:11:07.021-07:00I am sick and tired of Ruto blaming everyone but h...I am sick and tired of Ruto blaming everyone but himself for his fuck-ups as well well as whinging constantly. What an idiot. And those that believe his whinging are even more Pathetic! NKT. Give ME a break Ruto, you call yourself a man? what a sorry excuse of a human being. Go back to RV and cry there. Stupid piece of shit. Afadhali Moi. He took shit like the man he was. Go back to your messiah Moi and learn a thing or two from him. YOU are not going to drag kenya back to the kanu days. Gasia wewe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-8141522702111876062010-10-23T16:43:45.487-07:002010-10-23T16:43:45.487-07:00All these "leaders" are full of crap.Fro...All these "leaders" are full of crap.From the top 2 up there to these other buggers.Let not lingual affiliation pull us apart.It's the only thing dividing us.DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.Shaking my head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-80002383880843475222010-10-23T15:24:41.293-07:002010-10-23T15:24:41.293-07:00Bobby6Killer,
Now now what do you expect Maina Nj...Bobby6Killer,<br /><br />Now now what do you expect Maina Njenga and Kamlesh to do?? We have Rev. Mark Kariuki, Cannon Peter Karanja, Bishop Margaret Wanjiru, Father Wamugunda all enjoying the trappings of power.<br /><br />The GEMA elite are busy dismantling the Mungiki because Maina Njenga and Ndura Waruinge aint playing ball, while the Kalenjok are busy "stock-piling"<br /><br />What should they do just chill and Max out???<br /><br />The Oracle has spokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16426993648943193172010-10-23T15:08:05.486-07:002010-10-23T15:08:05.486-07:00@Anon 12.38 pm
Woof! Woof! I can already smell yo...@Anon 12.38 pm<br /><br />Woof! Woof! I can already smell your footprints and my crystal ball tells me, you ain't a warrior!<br /><br />I smell your defeat which is a sound for victory for the Kalenjok, dont pretend to be what you are not.<br /><br />The GREATEST THIEF in Kenya's history, hint hint lies somewhere in a Masoleum sandwitched between parliament and Intercontinental hotel.<br /><br /><br />The Oracle has spokenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com