tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post7048480436659806863..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: YES, Even Dead Fish Goes With the FlowUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-37732090339644409922010-05-24T08:12:40.138-07:002010-05-24T08:12:40.138-07:00Indeed business/economics is war. How many of you...Indeed business/economics is war. How many of you realize this? A 48-page document is not going to change our economic situation unless it was written specifically to do that. Has the proposed constitution been fashioned in such a manner?<br /><br />Why would anyone who read this post and commented on it think that anything other than economic independence matters above all? <br /><br />How can we claim to have political independence with economic independence? How can we aspire to prosperity without economic independence?<br /><br />Or maybe that's not what we really want?<br /><br />If that's the case what do we really want?<br /><br />Somebody please enlighten me.The Svengalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04923922208673735550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-46837722430446955742010-05-23T08:56:25.059-07:002010-05-23T08:56:25.059-07:00Nimesema,
No better idiot than an intellectual pre...Nimesema,<br />No better idiot than an intellectual pretender. You always mouth that intelectual paradigm praising Mwarang'ethe without showing us what you have in between your ears. I would excuse a tout for ass licking but it is difficult for you to gain anything by being an e-AIRHEAD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-77067655266301853622010-05-23T04:36:54.402-07:002010-05-23T04:36:54.402-07:00Anno 6:41
Jukwaa is not and has never been a Rail...Anno 6:41<br /><br />Jukwaa is not and has never been a Raila worshiping blog.It is very independent and authoritative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-39695314434538105822010-05-22T18:41:49.787-07:002010-05-22T18:41:49.787-07:00Mwarangethe, go on with your good cause opening th...Mwarangethe, go on with your good cause opening the eyes of the masses.<br />Ignore the dimwits and morons who can only fight you but lack intellectual capacity to debate issues thats why they stick to personalities.<br /><br />I can see even your article has been posted in that Raila worshiping blog Jukwaa. Hopefully, more Kenyans will grasp the strong message that you have consistently been sending here.<br />Now i agree being a genius is a lonely affair cause clearly Mwarangethe is a true genius of our times.<br /><br />NimesemaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-13222122890486382472010-05-22T15:56:35.669-07:002010-05-22T15:56:35.669-07:00Mwarang'ethe,
Ever head of LIVING IN YOUR HEAD...Mwarang'ethe,<br />Ever head of LIVING IN YOUR HEAD? Or better still INTUITION DIMENSIONS for REALITY? You are on such a grand ego expansion mission you will drop dead pleasing yourself. Stop your UTOPIAN self prerscription.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89964253145340250502010-05-22T03:05:20.539-07:002010-05-22T03:05:20.539-07:00Anonymous said...
this is a case of one transferr...Anonymous said... <br />this is a case of one transferring adam smith's theories in trying to lie about the constitution's provisions. how do you talk about being anti socialism wen you clearly have issues with employers being in unions??<br /><br />xxxxxxxxxxxx<br /><br />You seem extremely confused fellow. But, it is not surprising cos Fabian Society has done a very good job. <br /><br />In the 20th Century growth of democracy was helped by two things:<br /><br />(a) The extension of popular franchise (right to vote),<br /><br />(b) growth of the union movement.<br /><br />These two developments presented the corporations with potential threats to their power because, they were removing power from the minority. Why so?<br /><br />Corporations have been a successful means since they were charted by England's Kings, to MINORITY RULE/TYRANNY because they are a stunningly efficient means of accumulating and concentrating wealth and property, which can then be translated into political power. <br /><br />As long as the ownership of property determined eligibility to vote, minority rule remained intact, but as more people got the right to vote the threat of real democracy hung over minority rule like the Sword of Damocles. It had to neutralised.<br /><br />Under a constitution drafted by people who are well versed with human history, corporations have no constitutional rights. <br /><br />They should only have privileges granted to them by the people via their accountable governments. This is so because, there are only two parties to the constitution:<br /><br />(a) The people, who are sovereign and have therefore, constitutional rights, and<br /><br />(b) the government which must be accountable to the people and must serve the people.<br /><br />Essentially, you are talking of unions of corporations like Shell, BP, Vodafone, Nike, Equity, Blackwater (private armies for commercial corporations) etc. <br /><br />If you remember correctly, we defined socialism is for the rich and free markets for the poor. By entitling such corporations such constitutional rights, they stop being creations of the government which MUST SERVE THE PEOPLE and in effect, they become people entitled to the rights of the sovereign under the constitution. <br /><br />This is a charter for wealthy shareholders to continue minority rule which democracy was supposed to remove. Unknown to thee, we have it from J.D. Rockefeller that, "competition is a sin." <br /><br />More so, these ideas you are parroting here, are coming from a legally meaningless "obiter dictum" of Chief Justice Remick in the Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad (1886). Your professor of law who only knows precedent, will never put legal persons in such historical issues. <br /><br />So, bro/sis, keep on marching towards your serfdom.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6365387139720821542010-05-22T02:12:52.766-07:002010-05-22T02:12:52.766-07:00this is a case of one transferring adam smith'...this is a case of one transferring adam smith's theories in trying to lie about the constitution's provisions. how do you talk about being anti socialism wen you clearly have issues with employers being in unions?? and dont yolu think the rights of employees to be in unions needs equal rights for employers??? dont give us theories, quote the draft in context. you such a socialist since i dont know wen free markets became a safe guard for the public. YES YEEEESSS!! YES.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-90729350897311919642010-05-22T01:56:50.135-07:002010-05-22T01:56:50.135-07:00Raila is heading to Cairo to apologize for Kenya s...Raila is heading to Cairo to apologize for Kenya signing the New Nile Treaty. The bugger has no balls to tell off the Egyptians!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-10176596151334938562010-05-21T23:42:42.825-07:002010-05-21T23:42:42.825-07:00While you still at it, where are similar objective...While you still at it, where are similar objective questions for the "NO" Fish that is still floating with an ardent desire to remain in the murky waters of the old days doing business as usual, guarding the status quo and burying their heads in the sand beneath the sea of change for the next two decades?<br /><br /> xxxxx<br /><br />Please let us stop focussing on useless people like Jirongo and Ruto. Let us focus on the REAL ISSUES we have consistently raised here. As you can see, none of the YES guys dare answer any of them. Personalisation of universal issues/problems is what blinds us to the issues that should have been at the heart of constitution making project.<br /><br />Jirongo is not an American. Yet, we now know that, 32 states are bankrupt. We learn from Economic Policy Journal that, 32 states have run out funds to make unemployment benefit payments and that the federal governmant has been supplying these states with funds so that they can make their payments to the unemployed.<br /><br />In other words, Americans are printing money like Zimbambwe. Why is this happening? Simple. America like many nations has become socialistic/monopoly capitalism and we know where that journey will end. Read the story here:<br /><br />http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2010/05/32-states-have-borrowed-from-treasury.html<br /><br />U may also read another interesting story here: <br /><br />"$3 million in debt, Central Falls in receivership."<br /><br />http://www.projo.com/news/content/CENTRAL_FALLS_FINANCES_05-20-10_GQII8I0_v46.8c3a73f.html<br /><br />Now, if you analyse the latest figures in Kenya, u will see very disturbing signs. <br /><br />In 2009/10 yr. the GOK expenditure will be about Ksh 772.4 billion, or, 30.3% of GDP. After the enactment of this constitution with all the mps (remember ati Affirmative Actions) and other offices, what % of the GDP will the govt. be?<br /><br />In 2010, our deficit will be Ksh 168.2 b. This will require us to borrow externally Ksh 50.2, domestically Ksh 109.5b while getting Ksh 6b from "privatisation" (selling the goose) and some Ksh 2.5b by refinancing Telkom.<br /><br />In the first 8 month of 2009/10, public debt increased by 79.9b. It now stands at Ks 1133.3 billion, or 45.4 of GDP in Feb. 2010.<br /><br />Where will the wealth come to repay all these debts we are incurring? We answer. From the pockets of the poor. So, how will their lives improve when they are forced to relinguish much of their wealth so as to transfer wealth to the rentier class?<br /><br />Simply, as long as we retain the current monetary system, there shall be no change. It is impossible. Anyone who understands this system, cannot dispute this assertion. Very unfortunate, extremely few people understand this vampire for it is clothed in mystery. And, if you doubt, we shall meet here in 2013-15.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29348657274177301702010-05-21T18:26:06.580-07:002010-05-21T18:26:06.580-07:00Profesa Mwarang'ethe,
Those are worthwhile qu...Profesa Mwarang'ethe,<br /><br />Those are worthwhile questions that will have to be pondered by the <b>"YES" Fish</b> that is flowing within a steady stream from the Proposed Constitution river.<br /><br />Give them some credit due to the fact that the "YES" Fish are at least flowing in fresh waters. Call it "living waters" if you will.<br /><br />While you still at it, where are similar objective questions for the <b>"NO" Fish</b> that is still <i>floating</i> with an ardent desire to remain in the murky waters of the old days doing business as usual, guarding the status quo and burying their heads in the sand beneath the sea of change for the next two decades?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-66561026020730464342010-05-21T15:07:36.364-07:002010-05-21T15:07:36.364-07:00Wewe wacha porojo. the last time I checked Kibaki ...Wewe wacha porojo. the last time I checked Kibaki nor the late Gatiba were DOMO DOMO despite having 2 wives. Leta ingine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-90867381245692240762010-05-21T14:41:21.841-07:002010-05-21T14:41:21.841-07:00I heard some DOMO DOMO say how some money will be ...I heard some DOMO DOMO say how some money will be flowing from the Central Govt to their counties. Poor fellows, not a single time did they talk about the new responsibilities that will come along with that money. I hope they will not use it to marry second wives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-78536677784573754552010-05-21T14:34:10.515-07:002010-05-21T14:34:10.515-07:00I am voting YES for the katiba because my uncle ca...I am voting YES for the katiba because my uncle can keep his land in Rongai without being called a "foreigner." As you know the katiba dismembered RV into counties and Rongai is now part of the NAKURU County where the so called "foreigners" make the majority. I am hunting for land in the Turi (Molo) area where I will create a rural retreate I can call home.<br /><br />It appears that in the new katiba dispensation, there is a chance of a golden revival in RV by those who were the targets of PEV. So, peace, brothers & sisters, peace, and let us vote YES!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-72384106494374495982010-05-21T08:45:15.528-07:002010-05-21T08:45:15.528-07:00As i have said here this katiba is going to make u...As i have said here this katiba is going to make us poorer. but alas maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. We need to be thrown into the fire or the lions mouth to understand where the real problem lies.<br /><br />@ Mwarangethe. This is what is called a democratic process. It takes time for the masses to realize it. <br />The question should be what will happen 5 years from now when/if the masses will understand that they have gone from bad to worse. Thats the million dollar question.<br />At least there are some who tried to Warn about this( Mwarangethe) and hopefully history will be on your side. If not the whole world ceases to exists due to disaster the will not spare anyone or any country. Folks you can´t stop the inevitable.<br />Have a nice Friday.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11666897197125149906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-86131268734403451632010-05-21T08:29:34.890-07:002010-05-21T08:29:34.890-07:00Prof UTOPIA (Mwarang'ethe),
So what do you sug...Prof UTOPIA (Mwarang'ethe),<br />So what do you suggest we do in your infinite wisdom? Do we vote NO and start all over again hoping that we will HAVE A YES VOTE in November?<br /><br />You argue and very brilliantly so, but what do we do NOW?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-9928844493673488002010-05-21T08:10:41.905-07:002010-05-21T08:10:41.905-07:00Mwarangethe
You are so right, this document is no...Mwarangethe<br /><br />You are so right, this document is not perfect and never will. It's a middle ground compromise after careful analysis by patriotic Kenyans over a long and rigorous exercise. It's a modified document which is far better than the current rubbish we have, it's far better than Bomas, Wako, Kilifi et all. It's not cast in stone and amendments can be pursued later on or by future generations. Even those who oppose it say it's 75% good. For me the best YES case so far was from Njeri Kabeberi in K24's Capital Talk yesterday which I believe is available on their website. She rightly says the likes of Ruto, Arap Moi, Njue, Jirongo and many others in NO camp have a history of being anti reform since time immemorial. None of them has ever been clobbered when Kenyans defied dictatorship and demanded a new Katiba. Most of them are overnight billionaires scared stiff of losing their loot and that's why they are cowering behind the tribe and church. If only the NO side had some fairly decent folks from the political front leading it, maybe we could sit and argue..M. Pesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14168126497090037314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-32408264561980387222010-05-21T07:27:37.849-07:002010-05-21T07:27:37.849-07:00Mwarang'ethe,
Nice post. Just a reminder not t...Mwarang'ethe,<br />Nice post. Just a reminder not to kill your patients with your UTOPIAN prescriptions. YES but NO for you.<br /><br />Tupendane lakini.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com