tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post5373335718635223054..comments2024-03-28T17:52:49.942-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Kenya: The Loss of Innocence.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger142125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61076423299945126522008-01-05T14:19:00.000-08:002008-01-05T14:19:00.000-08:00Can the Government resurect the Mau Mau who beat a...Can the Government resurect the Mau Mau who beat and chased the British from Kenya to deal with Prime minister in waiting OLD KANU Ruto`s militia in Eldoret?<BR/><BR/>Ruto should be taught a lesson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6923449212588469222008-01-05T14:07:00.000-08:002008-01-05T14:07:00.000-08:00Oh my goodness!!! Kenya is ablaze. Let us use this...Oh my goodness!!! Kenya is ablaze. Let us use this space for charting the way forward and not personal agendas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-34905375011615439302008-01-05T13:20:00.000-08:002008-01-05T13:20:00.000-08:00Hi, Briner aka Tamtam. The e-mail you sent Sam as ...Hi, Briner aka Tamtam. The e-mail you sent Sam as Mamma Toffee...and signed tamtam of kumekucha was recieved....thanks for trying hard! Now i believe you were once a spy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59166358987066217942008-01-05T11:44:00.000-08:002008-01-05T11:44:00.000-08:00Forgot the link, here it is.http://www.guardian.co...Forgot the link, here it is.<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2235785,00.htmlTamtamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640874738572547599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40316318195599267232008-01-05T11:43:00.000-08:002008-01-05T11:43:00.000-08:00Great piece Kalamari.An interesting piece by Binya...Great piece Kalamari.<BR/><BR/>An interesting piece by Binyavanga Wainaina on the threat of speaking in your mother tongue.Tamtamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640874738572547599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-20690352005909425052008-01-05T06:48:00.000-08:002008-01-05T06:48:00.000-08:00Paul @ 4.09, do not SHORT CIRCUIT HISTORY.Many Ken...Paul @ 4.09, do not SHORT CIRCUIT HISTORY.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Many Kenyans fought the British long and hard. The only reason some of them are not remembered much is because there were no television cameras as were present in the fifties.<BR/><BR/>I will mention the struggles of just three (1890 - 1925).<BR/><BR/>a) Remember Ebei? He was Turkana. They fought one of the longest resistance wars of any ethnic group in Africa against the British before their defeat in the twenties (c. 20 years).<BR/><BR/>b) Remember Mekatilili and Wanje wa Madorika. This female and male duos led the Giriama in their bitter uprising against the British - coast province.<BR/><BR/>c)Remember Koitalel arap Samoei: another great leader, another bitter struggle - The Nandi.<BR/><BR/>Kenya is for all of us, even the Luo (esp. Mboya and Odinga) were important in mobilising people for independence in the sixties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-66567663763593645782008-01-05T04:24:00.000-08:002008-01-05T04:24:00.000-08:00Anon 1:41 AM do not underestimate the ability of t...Anon 1:41 AM do not underestimate the ability of the other Kenyans to push for justice. Kibaki might decide to seat tight because he has the state machinery which he used to rig the elections and surround Uhuru park, but at the moment their is an uprising against the rule of law which if not taken into consideration by the clique around him will overwhelm the state machinery and by then most of us wont be alive to defend any immorality(stealing) as they do here. <BR/><BR/>The uprising might not be about Kikuyus per se, but about a push for justice and respect for the voice of the common man and a message to the ruling elite. Remember thugs and hooligans will of course taken advantage to loot.<BR/><BR/>Way forward: Kibaki should put Kenya first and make the toughest decision ever by ignoring the advice of the clique around him whose interests are paramount, then agree that there elections weren't free and fair(unlike what he read from his statement) as Kivuiti did, then allow the AG to file a petition to annul the results then order a general(or presidential) election within the next 18 months with a newly negotiated ECK.<BR/><BR/>But to dupe yourselves that Kibaki will seat at statehouse for another five years with the better part of Kenyans knowing that he is there illegitimately is a fallacy and a potential bomb whose consequences will surpass what we've seen so far because what is bound to build up is a citizenry which lack confidence in the justice system, rule of law and the constituition which unites us as a nation thereby anarchy will take centrestage. <BR/><BR/>Kenyans who are endowed with work in the major towns will of course report back to work and shrug they dont care whether its Kibaki or ODM in govt, but remember that most of the youths taking advantage to loot and kill are jobless and for sure looking for an opportunity to pay back to the society which instn't perturbed whether they exist or not.<BR/><BR/>Who should deliver the message of peace and justice to all: All concerned Kenyans, who trully believe that there is a problem which came after the vote-tallying and sitting on the problem want solve it but aggravate it, therefore as citizens we need to petition Kibaki to make the right decisions for all Kenyans. <BR/><BR/>What can you do? Jam all the media stations with a message of peace but end with a message of justice for all. <BR/><BR/>Concerned KenyanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27876368326951377142008-01-05T04:09:00.000-08:002008-01-05T04:09:00.000-08:00How comes ODM-OLD KANU GANGED UP with all the the ...How comes ODM-OLD KANU GANGED UP with all the the tribes to beat Kibaki`s PNU?<BR/><BR/>I think Kikuyu`s have to be very careful dealing with these other tribes from this point on, who even never fought for independence from the British.<BR/><BR/>They were just mating, fishing and throwing stones in the lake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47573227813335739552008-01-05T01:41:00.000-08:002008-01-05T01:41:00.000-08:00Bright Minds only attacking Kikuyu's and Kalamari,...Bright Minds only attacking Kikuyu's and Kalamari, a guy I detested long before the elections, comes up with an "excellent piece" which only serves to galvanize the wishful thinking and self affirming feelings of ODMers! If you dont like Kikuyu's, its your damn problem. They will always be Kikuyus, and they are also Kenyans like you. All of you here who are against the first post, please vote for Kimani when he stands for presidency as he has declared. Ofcourse you wont do that, because he is another Kikuyu trying to extend the Kikuyu dominance(a very petty subject by the tribalist Kalamari). Go back to work all of you, Kibaki has the wisdom to govern for the next 5 years. Unfortunately you may not like it, ODMers leaders may wreck havoc. But if you think Kibaki will give in, think again. Raila aliona Simba amenyeshewa na 2005 refurendum akadhani ni paka. Ameona cha mtema kuni VOTE07. Tuonane wasee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-87804361199250151342008-01-04T23:14:00.000-08:002008-01-04T23:14:00.000-08:00Kenyans cannot be fooled. A day before the result...Kenyans cannot be fooled. A day before the results were announced ECK called for agents of all parties and formed a verification committee led by ECK Commish Riunga Raiji which confirmed that there were problems with 48 constituencies. Why wasn't the verification report made public?<BR/><BR/>How were the results of those constituencies reported?<BR/><BR/>How come up to now ECK has not released the official tallies of all the polling stations and constituencies and how they add to the presidential totals? Is the cooking to arrive at the announced totals getting a bit tricky?<BR/><BR/>Now I know why Maths is not everyone's favorite topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-70681351930525273782008-01-04T22:31:00.000-08:002008-01-04T22:31:00.000-08:00Interesting story http://www.guardian.co.uk/kenya...Interesting story http://www.guardian.co.uk/kenya/story/0,,2235778,00.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84436857758139438502008-01-04T22:29:00.000-08:002008-01-04T22:29:00.000-08:00This is the weeping soul. Watch my youtube video c...This is the weeping soul. Watch my youtube video compilation of Kenya election pics...the truth unbiased. Includes some never before seen images<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XYDhgpYRiEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-12217305497553201782008-01-04T22:03:00.000-08:002008-01-04T22:03:00.000-08:00Annonymous @ 12.43pm has written a lot of nonsense...Annonymous @ 12.43pm has written a lot of nonsense. I think he/she is very idle. I cannot even give him/her my points coz he/she won't understand.mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12672990720588804499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-20071062697742294312008-01-04T21:47:00.000-08:002008-01-04T21:47:00.000-08:00Kimani, when were you in Kisumu Boys?OmanyKimani, when were you in Kisumu Boys?<BR/><BR/>OmanyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-4687139407317154612008-01-04T21:37:00.000-08:002008-01-04T21:37:00.000-08:00Yes Patriot Damu @ 9.20, "sober" is they word to u...Yes Patriot Damu @ 9.20, "sober" is they word to underscore in your P.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-78559468013016373602008-01-04T21:20:00.000-08:002008-01-04T21:20:00.000-08:00Thank you Kimani. You are a true Kenyan hero like ...Thank you Kimani. You are a true Kenyan hero like the many Kikuyus who voted for Raila. They are more than most Kenyans realize.<BR/><BR/>Patriot Damu<BR/>P.S. Long live my sober Kikuyu brothers and sisters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79115199440527984422008-01-04T21:16:00.000-08:002008-01-04T21:16:00.000-08:00Anon @ 7.21, your remarks offer a weird sense of c...Anon @ 7.21, your remarks offer a weird sense of comfort.<BR/><BR/>Kenyans are too capitalistic (relatively speaking - regional history) to fight for too long.<BR/><BR/>However, as Anon @ 6.22 says, we ought to be cautious. WE NEED LASTING PEACE and we need to ensure we don't push problems under the carpet or rush for band aid solutions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-30665653772610719032008-01-04T21:07:00.000-08:002008-01-04T21:07:00.000-08:00Anon @ 8.25, Raila has been up and about and has e...Anon @ 8.25, Raila has been up and about and has even toured City Mortuary.<BR/><BR/>Both sides seem to be making positive noises and since they are the leaders we have for now, all we can do is hope that they build on that momentum for the benefit of all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-53795452418673982152008-01-04T20:25:00.000-08:002008-01-04T20:25:00.000-08:00After this election and its aftermath i have come ...After this election and its aftermath i have come to the conclusion that both Raila and Kibaki are arrogant, self serving, egotistical,small minded people. i have no respect for them at all until they stand together and decry the violence and ask for it to cease. Neither "presidential candidate" can convince me that they care for the common mwanainchi. to convince me otherwise, they need to leave the statehouse and their luxury hotel suites and go spend the night giving aid to those displaced in kibera, kisumu and eldoret. touring the city morgue and releasing press statements are meaningless when you are sleeping in the cold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-32506660702438546532008-01-04T19:43:00.000-08:002008-01-04T19:43:00.000-08:00Kibaki is probably planning a G. Divide the countr...Kibaki is probably planning a G. Divide the country into 43 countries, because, after all, that is what they really are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3990851148563246292008-01-04T19:24:00.000-08:002008-01-04T19:24:00.000-08:00Kenya is in turmoil because 1. Kibaki is liberal &...Kenya is in turmoil because 1. Kibaki is liberal & an advocate for free speech but he is not a decisive "battle" commander; 2. Odinga is a radical & an advocate of lawlessness. Odinga has held speeches stating that no poor person should pay ANY rent. 3.The USA wants to have any Kenyan incumbent president as a puppet of Haliburton, World Bank, IMF et al.(read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins); 4.multi party-ism is never for Africa with its various ethnic groups bunched together in just one boundary...is this multi-ethnic cohesion working for Belgium too ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61387543015509998782008-01-04T19:21:00.000-08:002008-01-04T19:21:00.000-08:00IT will be over by the end of the weekend or by Tu...IT will be over by the end of the weekend or by Tuesday the latest. Too much economic pressure on both sides. After all a dollar speaks louder than a 100 votes (which in my opinion is immoral).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27269047764695499102008-01-04T18:22:00.000-08:002008-01-04T18:22:00.000-08:00Please Kenyans, let us not get too happy over ever...Please Kenyans, let us not get too happy over every positive step or despair at every footage we see on the TV. This issue will take long time to solve. And I pray that our leaders will address the root course of the problem so that we won't have a child being thrown into fire in a church again. We must address the Kikuyustan dynasty that many Kenyans feel is the course of all problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-91043744992304844712008-01-04T17:48:00.000-08:002008-01-04T17:48:00.000-08:00I`m a Kenyan and my family and myself were not dis...I`m a Kenyan and my family and myself were not displaced or killed.<BR/>But i`m imaging if we were displaced and right now in the cold with all our earthly belongings looted, what would i do.<BR/> 1. i would ask God for strength and then form a coalition to prosecute the perpetrators.<BR/><BR/>2. Ask for forgiveness before going out personally to confront Kivuitu, Raila and Kibaki for turning our life upside down for exercising our democratic rights.<BR/><BR/>My grand father once told me that after colonisation, what is happening in Kenya today is neo colonialism.<BR/><BR/>I believe him now.<BR/><BR/>Finally, if there is no change in Kenya now, we will be fighting and killing each other until the end of time because Kenya is a neo colonialist country.<BR/><BR/>IT SERVES THE INTERESTS OF THE WEST. 75% of our wealth is owned by foreigners.<BR/><BR/>eg. Britain, USA, and others.<BR/><BR/>We need to be independent and think as kenyans and not ethnic/tribal.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise the west is capitalising on our weakness of jaluo, kikuyu, Kisii cheap talk etc.<BR/><BR/>What happened to Turkana by the way?<BR/><BR/>Did they immigrate to Ethiopia or Sudan.<BR/><BR/>OR UK, USA and EUROPE?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3679880135618367632008-01-04T17:10:00.000-08:002008-01-04T17:10:00.000-08:00Just read the D. Nation story and yes, it is a ref...Just read the D. Nation story and yes, it is a refreshing read. We should keep moving forward from here.<BR/><BR/>However, the Anglican Church at home should stop calling for a re-count and re-tally. I think we have all moved beyond that. Even those who are non-ODMers will agree that the security of the ballot papers and tally sheets has been compromised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com