tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post4814278914560143813..comments2024-03-28T17:52:49.942-07:00Comments on You Missed This: The New Constitution is Void AB INITIOUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74309928000475552962010-01-24T15:48:32.935-08:002010-01-24T15:48:32.935-08:00I understand what you are saying Mwarangethe. So w...I understand what you are saying Mwarangethe. So what is the solution, we need the PSC to be informed. Can we get someone to talk to Agwambo and some few others like PSC chairman? At the moment they are the only people that can dramatically try to change this process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74659518090145953562010-01-24T08:19:56.675-08:002010-01-24T08:19:56.675-08:00Anonymous said...
Mwarangethe, how many people kn...Anonymous said... <br />Mwarangethe, how many people know this information? I bet almost none. You can't blame those fixing the constitution since am sure most of them are well meaning. <br /><br />xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br /><br />You are right. Not many people have investigated these matters. And, as a matter of fact, the schools, media, pulpit, govts. ensure these matters remain hidden from the masses who then blame their "bad" leaders for their poverty. <br /><br />However, the COE cannot claim to be ignorant for we gave them a dossier on the same matter. <br /><br />We even promised to get them very qualified persons from all over the world, to help devise a well designed policy. For "unknown reasons", they chose to ignore this offer.<br /><br />More so, if they asked or, if Kenyans were to be interested, Mwarang'ethe can within 48 hrs. draft a comprehensive law on:<br /><br />- Declaration of The Natural Law Relating to the Acquisition and Ownership of Private Property. <br /><br />Now, there is one thing that should be clear. On the surface, this looks like a land issue. It is not. It is more than that. <br /><br />It is this: <br /><br />(a) who shall work/toil and who shall pocket the BULK of the national wealth?<br /><br />Under the current arrangements, which we are about to entrench, the BULK of wealth produced in Kenya by those who toil, shall end up in the hands of few idlers who constitute a landed aristrocracy which in turns controls the politics of the nation.<br /><br />Seen this way, if we enact this law as it is, we would have entrenched the appropriation of national wealth by a few. So, if the national wealth will still end up in the hands of the few, what was the purpose of the reforms?<br /><br />Now, given the road we have taken to reach here, reopening these matters will prove to be very very difficult. It is this serious.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29912945779622186992010-01-24T07:07:52.649-08:002010-01-24T07:07:52.649-08:00Mwarangethe, how many people know this information...Mwarangethe, how many people know this information? I bet almost none. You can't blame those fixing the constitution since am sure most of them are well meaning. I doubt if Raila knew this he will oppose it, why not sell this idea to the people who are able to move it through. Am sure they will need a thorough lecture to understand what you are getting at. However, since we are already deep into the process, why can't we mend this system the way it is then immediately start working on a land policy which we will take time to do but will do it right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-845573652984215722010-01-24T00:24:45.950-08:002010-01-24T00:24:45.950-08:00Anon 2.18, you have nailed an excellent observatio...Anon 2.18, you have nailed an excellent observation i.e. we have problem with our education system; laziness and ignorance of the so called middle class... (refer to Philip Ochieng's recent article on our education system)<br /><br />Mwarang'ethe,<br />what you have written deserves all the kudos, if only most ppl will spend some time reading, understanding and truly digesting this information... that said, a second reading is in order... <br /><br />Ken ThumbiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-90303059400120415532010-01-23T08:17:30.579-08:002010-01-23T08:17:30.579-08:00BREAKING NEWS!!!
Eric Wainaina (musician) has fat...BREAKING NEWS!!!<br /><br />Eric Wainaina (musician) has fathered a child with his mpango wa kando Valerie Kimani.<br /><br />The cheating couple are thought to be v. delighted with the news!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89637345865503453822010-01-23T07:43:29.453-08:002010-01-23T07:43:29.453-08:00Kenya needs a stable executive, legislation and ju...Kenya needs a stable executive, legislation and judiciary totally independent from one another.<br /><br />1) The president should be a national figure voted overwhelmingly by Kenyans with over 50.1%. A re-run is a must and must be stated clearly in the constituition. If he is a member of a political party, his party must be of a national character AND NOT a coalition of TRIBES, RELIGION, REGIONS, ETC.<br /><br />His cabinet and all other appointed officials must be ratified by the parliament and the senate.<br /><br />He must fire any of his officials who is involved in corruption or crime, otherwise the senate and parliament must impeach him. This will enable a culture of impunity to be done away with.<br /><br />2)The parliamentarians should serve for 3 terms only and earn a fixed amount of not more than 30-times amount earned by a P1 teacher. The Speaker should be named President of the National Assembly (PNA) and should be in charge of the smooth running of the house. Once elected, an MP should NOT be a member of the cabinet (to avoid MPs supporting the President to be "rewarded" after election).<br /><br />3) The Senate should consist of 8 elected Provincial leaders, and representatives of the counties. The provincial leaders should be named Provincial Presidents (PP). There should be no gender discrimination NOR seats reserved for women and men.<br /><br />4)All positions of judges should be advertised. The Law society or any law professional body should forward the names to the parliament for ratification after which the president will sign their contracts. A judge's contract should not exceed 10 years.<br /><br />5)Political parties must be based on ideologies ONLY. Their numbers must be reduced to 3. The ideologies should be Socialist, Capitalist, Environmentalist, Tradition conservationalists, communists, etc.<br /><br />Names like ODM,PNU,should go. Independent candidates should get at least 10000 signatures to vie for parliamentary seats.<br /><br />Let's wish Kenya success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61121089023351681332010-01-23T06:54:03.573-08:002010-01-23T06:54:03.573-08:00PHEW!!! Pure screed Vikii. Wondering where the PAR...PHEW!!! Pure screed Vikii. Wondering where the PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM brigade went toderoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05968699916143647335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40831395536167525332010-01-23T04:36:31.535-08:002010-01-23T04:36:31.535-08:00....and just to add on to this, land is not a prod.......and just to add on to this, land is not a product of human labour, so it would be wrong for anyone to claim title to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-81112522296955399502010-01-23T04:24:50.360-08:002010-01-23T04:24:50.360-08:00Anonymous said...
The whole question of land is b...Anonymous said... <br />The whole question of land is bit overblown. It does not matter who owns the land, what matters is how do we get maximum productivity. <br /><br />xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br /><br />Read the history of great civilizations and what led to their fall. If you do, you shall have a better and well informed understanding of what land is.<br /><br />Yes, it does not matter who owns land, but, this is only true if we have in our laws this one simple and essential condition. <br /><br />There must be distinctions between:<br /><br />(a) Natural right of property, and<br />(b) property as the product of labour.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the above distinction is totally missing and is deliberate mechanism so as to appropriate wealth of those who labour by those who do not labour via the soil.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42839783551186900582010-01-23T04:13:06.904-08:002010-01-23T04:13:06.904-08:00The whole question of land is bit overblown. It do...The whole question of land is bit overblown. It does not matter who owns the land, what matters is how do we get maximum productivity. <br /><br />My contention is that we have adequate laws in that country. All we need is implement them where appropriate to ensure more productive use of land.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-45292052733606212302010-01-23T03:33:50.626-08:002010-01-23T03:33:50.626-08:00A number of issues have been raised. Firstly, for...A number of issues have been raised. Firstly, for those who find it difficult to understand the article, they only need to read the first two paragraphs.<br /><br />Someone noted that middle class invest in land. This is true. They do so in the believe, but, a mistaken one that increase in land values represent an increase in commonwealth. It does not for whatever a land owner gains by higher prices the tenants or buyers who must pay them will lose. Likewise, the common wealth would not increase if some are enslaved for whatever the enslavers get, the enslaved must lose. Therefore, land is a relative wealth and not actual wealth.<br /><br />Thus, real wealth is this. It is what labour has impressed upon matter in such a way as to store up the power of human labour so as to minister to human desires. This therefore, automatically disqualifies land/natural resources as man’s property.<br /><br />Someone mentioned freehold and leasehold. Well, as a matter of fact, free hold is what was called tenant in chief (in capite) as we noted above. The leasehold is what was called mesne in England. <br /><br />Now, what it means is that, the leaseholder, just like the mesne of the old, is still paying his rent to the tenant in chief. However, the tenant in chief i.e. Baron, is not passing this rent to the King. This forces the King to tax the labour. <br /><br />Thus, we are just reminding the tenant in chief that we have not forgotten he has not been remitting rent which he collects from the mesne. It is so simple and straight forward.<br /><br />Having said the above, let be noted that, we have three factors of production. We discuss them in a very brief manner, so, we will leave a lot of details. These factors are land, capital and labour. For the land, the returns are rent. For capital, the returns are interest and for the labour is wages. <br /><br />Now, the big issue is this. If the nation’s annual produce is KES 100, you will find that, about 80% of the wealth produced, is pocketed by rent and interest. <br /><br />This means that labour, the creator of all wealth pockets about 20% of the annual wealth created in a community. They do so because, under the law rent, all incomes above that is necessary to maintain labour will accrue to the owners of land without the expenditure of their labour. <br /><br />Thus, the labour only gets that income to enable it to just survive if at all they are able to survive. The rest is soaked by rent. This means that those few who hold land under the current corrupt system, pocket almost all surplus of a community WITHOUT DOING ANY WORK.<br /><br />If labour consists more than 95% of the population it pockets around 20% of its produce. This means that, less than 5% of the population who control land pockets over 60% of the annual produce WITHOUT LABOUR. The rest is captured by other pirates calling themselves bankers and financiers. <br /><br />It is therefore, from this perspective we insist, even if you have the best constructed presidency in the world, it will only preside over this rotten system and the fruits will be the same, i.e. poverty, ignorance and attendant conflicts. <br /><br />This must be so cos those who do not work, will still prosper at the expense of those who work/labour. This will not produce a vibrant middle class necessary for development of a viable democracy. <br /><br />Thus, land seen in this wider context, is at the heart of the mess and not executive as Wanjiku has been led mischievously and deliberately misdirected so that she does not see the truth. You can see the same efforts in this blog.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-62376258177679216882010-01-23T02:24:25.470-08:002010-01-23T02:24:25.470-08:00What a screed!What a screed!Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6296494345032975612010-01-23T02:18:01.011-08:002010-01-23T02:18:01.011-08:00I am disappointed in the fisrt five commentaries....I am disappointed in the fisrt five commentaries. But I think we can lay the blame squarely on our education system and laziness and ignorance inherent in most Kenyans and more so, middle class Kenyans (much to my devastation)......Do you know that most well educated Kenyans will tell you the best to invest is by buying land and then selling it for a profit read speculation....please do tell me if things can get more ridiculous than that? All said and done, I find this a very intellectually engaging and enlightening piece that needs preservation for future reads.....well done Mwarang'ethe!!!!<br /><br />This post is great only if you can try to understand......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-37949657348891996722010-01-23T02:06:47.850-08:002010-01-23T02:06:47.850-08:00This is how I get your arguement in another perspe...This is how I get your arguement in another perspective.<br /><br />Land is very important however our government has not been able to come up with a good land policy which will enable it to use all the land it owns in a productive way.<br /><br />Maybe I need to be corrected, what I know is that there is freehold land and leasehold land in Kenya. Freehold being referred to land one can own for 999 years. While leasehold is mostly less than 99 years.<br /><br />I know the government policy is so bad that one can acquire freehold land and live it idle for the entire duration - I mean 999 years. So that in the end it's not only the government, but it's people also who loose.<br /><br />Yes, there are rates that people pay annually but it's so little it doesn't relate in any way to the value and the output that land can provide.<br /><br />The government can create so much wealth from the land when it comes up with a policy that will make people to make good use of the land they have acquired. <br /><br />The policy should discourage forever acquisition of land and keeping it idle by ensuring one pays tax over the land one "owns" - In other words land should not be owned by people, but by the government, so that people should be renting the land from government and not acquiring it for life, and they should be paying the "rent" to the government, this can be monthly or annually.<br /><br />At the moment most people are complaining of poor economy of the country yet there are a lot of idle land owned by the government which can be "rented out" to people for productive use.<br /><br />I once wondered whether it's possible for me to rent land from the government.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14320652530759368444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-23481872286178667612010-01-23T01:00:15.875-08:002010-01-23T01:00:15.875-08:00How simple can the writer be? He has tried his bes...How simple can the writer be? He has tried his best to bring a very important point on what to look for when writing a constitution especially on land issues. If you can be able to log into a machine and load Kumekucha on your browser then your brain should be able to synthesize this essay. Stop your laziness, read this piece again, engage your gray matter then make a positive contribution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-13160198566156445712010-01-22T21:55:04.565-08:002010-01-22T21:55:04.565-08:00You have a major point but how many ordinary folk...You have a major point but how many ordinary folk understand it?<br /><br />Your points are based on political theory and they do make sense to a political scientist but you have to find a way of sending the same message to the man on the street, the "plebs /proletariat" who at the end of the day have the numbers to decide how our country will be governed.<br />Great article!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-83619751835904472592010-01-22T16:56:17.077-08:002010-01-22T16:56:17.077-08:00Be brief, be brilliant, be done and be gone.
Then...Be brief, be brilliant, be done and be gone.<br /><br />Then ... <i>andika kwa Kiswahili, tuelewe</i> (@11:19 AM) ... in the same way our distant ancestral cousins - <b>Rwandans, Ethiopians, Israeli, Indians, Arabs, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Turkish, Germans, French</b> - proudly do (translate) for their patriots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27227679522250490942010-01-22T11:19:42.944-08:002010-01-22T11:19:42.944-08:00Sasa andika kwa Kiswahili, tuelewe!Sasa andika kwa Kiswahili, tuelewe!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-56175601729500606892010-01-22T09:50:07.041-08:002010-01-22T09:50:07.041-08:00Mwarang'ethe
I don't have time to read yo...Mwarang'ethe<br /><br />I don't have time to read your drivel (did they not teach you how to write short or summarized essays in school?) <br /><br />But do you know who owns the biggest chunk of land in Kenya?<br /><br />Well, they are:<br /><br />Delamere Family<br />Kenyatta family<br />Moi family<br /><br />What do they have all in common?<br /><br />They are all former presidents of Kenya (Delamare being the founder of the country under colonial govt)<br /><br />The truth is, Kenya's land question has it's roots in the colonial administration. Prior to that, Kenya has had no clearly defined laws on how to manage land, and this is what has lead to a breakdown in land administration. Moreover, lack of land policy has also opened the door to environmental degradation. e.g. mau issue.<br /><br />Phil's MistressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89458736586366538282010-01-22T09:09:43.323-08:002010-01-22T09:09:43.323-08:00ODM, in their "headless-chicken" dance, ...ODM, in their "headless-chicken" dance, were no match for the rigors of constitution-making and ended up helping PNU propagate a constitution geared for the daytime robbery of the weak. ODM did not believe in parliamentary democracy, they just wanted the easiest way of sneaking into power. They are chicken-eating mongooses. Washindwe kabisa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com