tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post4300275290943562555..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: The Nairobi Star: Raila to Become Kikuyu ElderUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-83724053899058545072008-07-08T20:04:00.000-07:002008-07-08T20:04:00.000-07:00the kikuyus and the luos on this blog may talk all...the kikuyus and the luos on this blog may talk all they want about their rivalry but deep down in their minds they should know which tribe can change or rule the agenda in kenya. most of the contributors talk about luo and kikuyu rivalry as though they are the only two tribes that exist in kenya. this mentality is what made Moi rule for a clean 24 years undisrupted. let the kikuyu and luo fight on petty issues while the kalenjin rule. same thing happened in the post election violence. Raila is the PM because of the Kalenjins not any other tribe. he should know that and he should take care not to loose their support because without them he is zero.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-72728228410244397992008-07-02T15:38:00.000-07:002008-07-02T15:38:00.000-07:00This whole discussion is totally meaningless to me...This whole discussion is totally meaningless to me.<BR/>The issues affecting the common mwananchi are not being highlighted by the media. People are suffering in Kenya with high inflation, making life unberable for many. Instead of the media assisting the common man by demanding that the prices of commodities whose import duties were zero rated be reduced, (traders are yet to do that) we are being told of useless stories. What will change in the lives of common kenyans whether Raila is made a tribal elder or not?<BR/>People should be discussing ways of allievating poverty and improving living conditions of kenyans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-4271219473132943322008-06-16T04:06:00.000-07:002008-06-16T04:06:00.000-07:00who cares if raila becomes a kikuyu elder or not? ...who cares if raila becomes a kikuyu elder or not? there will be no impact to the kikuyu voter after alienating the central people he figures he can use the same magic ward he uses on the backward kales and lunjes?.. that will never happened coz the central people use their heads and are not fooolish enough to believe in pies in the skies!<BR/>so he can go a head come to ruring'u act like a clown lakini kura hapati ng'o! should go to moi for a few lessons on the kikuyu mind...kazi inaendelee na itaendelea 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-35144413785528909192008-06-11T07:37:00.000-07:002008-06-11T07:37:00.000-07:00Whoever made the comment below (in quoatation mark...Whoever made the comment below (in quoatation marks) is the most primitive person the world has ever known. AIDS is not something to joke with and am sure yourself you are affected in one way or another if not infected. Can you honestly claim that your tribe is safe from the pandemic? Other than use abusive/primitive language, why dont you state facts? <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>""""An uncircumcised man cannot be an elder of the GREAT MUMBI clan. There is no way a man without six lower teeth can be an elder of my tribe. Never.<BR/><BR/>Does it mean that we shall be at par without fish-smelling morons from Luoland, the Aids ravaged community that adore one man."""""''Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-50371203638179082222008-06-08T09:14:00.000-07:002008-06-08T09:14:00.000-07:00If it is true that kalooser is letting out kuyo pr...If it is true that kalooser is letting out kuyo prisoners its no suprise, I knew something like this would happen.....PNU ministers have never been used to service to the people those posts are just for self interest and they are busy proving it...<BR/><BR/>Compare and contrast PNU and ODM ministers who is taking us foward and who is dragging us back?<BR/><BR/>....How can we move foward when kalooser is presiding over gross miscarriege of justice....and some mindless idiot is even hapily insinuating that RAO can do nothing about it....<BR/><BR/>You will find the same people claiming the no amnesty should be accorded to anyone....after all the kuyo prisoners have been let out that is...and armed for another round of mayhem and blame it on ODM.<BR/><BR/>There is alot of talk here about moving forward and so on but who is talking 2012? To PNU sucession is a major thing with kalooser in tow....yet some hate blinded people see ODMers as the problem....<BR/><BR/>Its the kind of things that kalooser is doing thats making it urgent to get ODM out so they can have the whole playground to themselves and screw kenyans...<BR/><BR/>We can see thru that. . . . As for RAo becoming a kukuyu elder.. much ado about nothing the less said the better.....<BR/><BR/>Kibz was a perennial looser until ge got the majic touch from RAO so give kuguru a break from what I get kuguru is a principled man whatever princples they are he is not willing to change them for political expediency and he does not need to, cause abviously he has his regular plate of githeri with out having a political post<BR/>Just the kind of people we need....<BR/><BR/><BR/>I wonder what those mps who have served before him have done for that community.<BR/><BR/>I find it unclever that some people keep complaining that nyanza is undeveloped and blame it on Luos.....this is common even amongst luos....In this day and age its suprising that people still don't know that without infrastructure even Bill Gates would not set up shop in luo nyanza.....Its just not ECONOMICAL and for all you un-informen luos and other retards. THE COST OF INFRUSTRUCTURE IS TOO HIGH FOR ANY PRIVATE CITIZEN TO INCURE. IT can only be done by government......for some of you who doubt go find out what it will cost you to have ONE electric pole added to bring elec next to your diggz...then come and complain that luo nyanza is under developed owing to the laziness of jangos....your ignorance is shameful to say the least.<BR/><BR/>I know a few jango's who have made a few coins and now think they have a right to pontificate on issues share this view....<BR/><BR/>I challange you to set the example...Obama did it, started as a community organiser..when did you organise anything lately at community level? Do you know your ward councilor?<BR/> Obama realised at some point that you need a higher office if you want to realy effect change but he first earned his wings as a community organiser. I still remember his Photo on a time magazine article....about a harvad lawer working with communities in down town chicago....befor he became famous.... now go establish you credentials before saying Luos out to do this or that.....<BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74954743250212240112008-06-08T06:09:00.000-07:002008-06-08T06:09:00.000-07:00Ruring'u-outskirts of Nyiri towniMukurwe-ini-some ...Ruring'u-outskirts of Nyiri towni<BR/>Mukurwe-ini-some rural place, a constituency in Rware. Kabando wa Kabando is the custodian.<BR/>Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga-Garden of Eden in present day Murang'a.Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29544684823946367812008-06-08T04:07:00.000-07:002008-06-08T04:07:00.000-07:00Anon 12.52...I did not mean white foreigners, I me...Anon 12.52...I did not mean white foreigners, I meant the wazungus born and bred in Kenya. This has been going on since colonial days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-7620493201693053702008-06-07T18:23:00.000-07:002008-06-07T18:23:00.000-07:00Bullshit!!! Do you know wheer Ruringu stadium is a...Bullshit!!! Do you know wheer Ruringu stadium is and mukurwe-ini wa Nyagathaga where kikuyu and Mumbi came from? You call that a few kilometers..You just plain stupid..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47097125624084800192008-06-07T14:17:00.000-07:002008-06-07T14:17:00.000-07:00Kibaki has totally played the politicial potentate...Kibaki has totally played the politicial potentates and pretenders from the following parties the most in terms of coalition government portfolios:<BR/><BR/>KANU<BR/>FORD-K<BR/>New Ford-K<BR/>ODM-Kenya<BR/>Shirikisho<BR/>CCM<BR/>Agano<BR/>Safina<BR/>others<BR/><BR/>only the secret players who founded PNU are the ones benefitting.<BR/><BR/>----------------------------------<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Uhuru, Saitoti and Karua to run in 2012 complicating Kalonzo equation<BR/><BR/> equationhttp://216.180.252.4/archives/index.php … ;catid=159<BR/><BR/>Narc-Kenya to de-link from PNU <BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/>Published on June 8, 2008, 12:00 am<BR/>By Gakuu Mathenge <BR/><BR/>Narc-Kenya will not go to the 2012 General Election under the Party of National Unity and will not seek mergers or a pre-election coalition. <BR/><BR/>Interim chairperson Ms Martha Karua says Narc-Kenya made a grave mistake in joining PNU. She said the move was a costly gamble. <BR/><BR/>"We should have resisted but things were done in such a hurry even the strongest were misled," said Karua. <BR/><BR/>Adding, "Indeed, all those who thought there was safety in an umbrella outfit got a rude shock, they all lost." <BR/><BR/>Soon after declaring that her name would be on the presidential ballot in 2012, Karua last week assumed Narc-Kenya’s interim chairmanship and immediately announced she intends to steer it to "the centre stage". <BR/><BR/>The party also marked the second anniversary of its creation with an announcement it would hold national elections in November to pick National Executive Council members to replace the current interim national management committee of 60 officials, some of whom have since decamped to other parties. <BR/><BR/>"Party positions are not birthday gifts for the most senior personalities. Individuals should earn their positions from their contribution to the party," Karua said, in an interview with The Sunday Standard.<BR/><BR/>Last year, the party conducted grassroots elections up to branch, but suspended the national elections and instead appointed all ministers vice-chairmen. <BR/><BR/>To begin with, Narc-Kenya intends to curve out an image independent of the PNU cluster, Karua said. <BR/><BR/>"Narc-Kenya has resolved never again to go into elections under so called umbrella outfits," Karua said.<BR/><BR/>She added: "Experience has shown that mergers distort party systems and create room for political thuggery."<BR/><BR/>In explaining the party’s position, the Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister said, "Narc-Kenya learnt the hard way by joining PNU last year, where we gave life to moribund parties at our expense. We have resolved it should not happen again." <BR/><BR/>The party has been doing post-mortem of last year’s election and concluded that joining PNU was a gamble. <BR/><BR/>In the current Parliament Narc-Kenya boasts the biggest block of MPs in the PNU cluster of parties, with 29 members out of the 43 PNU legislators. But the party feels it could have fared better had it gone solo into the elections.<BR/><BR/>Over a dozen strong Narc-Kenya candidates who joined PNU, among them several former ministers, lost their seats. <BR/><BR/>This time round, the straight talking minister viewed by many as one of the strongest defenders of the Kibaki administration, said her party intends to sort out the wheat from the chaff and prepare in time. <BR/><BR/>"Our party is still strong with grassroots offices, officials and membership at every polling station, not just districts and divisions," she said. <BR/><BR/>"We have updated our register and replaced officials who defected to other parties. This month we have a national convention to approve our rule book ahead of national elections in November," the minister explained. <BR/><BR/>The New Political Parties Act will become effective July 1, when all political parties regulation is expected to fall under the Electoral Commission of Kenya.<BR/><BR/>Among other things, all parties are expected to make returns for financial statements, membership registers, leadership structures, elected registered officials, among others.<BR/><BR/>The parties will be allowed six months to comply with the new rules, without which they would not be financed, through the Consolidated Fund.<BR/><BR/>Party funding has since been adopted by Parliament as part of new accountability and anti-corruption measures, among them to curb grand corruption that is usually driven by political leaders in government in search of campaign booty. <BR/><BR/>On several documented cases, grand corruption has bordered on compromising national security. <BR/><BR/>However, the funding for parties now comes with strict accountability requirements. <BR/><BR/>Among stringent rules some parties may find it difficult to comply with policy that requires a third of the national executive council (NEC) officials be from either gender, while failure for compliance will lead to automatic deregistration. <BR/><BR/>Political indiscipline, thuggery and disregard for laws and rules governing political activities had gone on too far and needed to be stemmed, Karua said. <BR/><BR/>Karua says rogue behaviour and disregard of rules and laws by parties was major source of political instability and indiscipline in the public life.<BR/><BR/>"Lack of internal party discipline, internal democracy, respect for the laws and internal rules has been transferred to national and public affairs," the Narc-Kenya party chair said. <BR/><BR/>She added: "We cannot entrench democracy in our country and government if parties lack internal discipline." <BR/><BR/>Refurbishing Narc-Kenya, whose bulk of membership and support is central Kenya — a region that overwhelmingly voted for President Kibaki and PNU last year — has cast Karua as intent on grabbing back the support base it had lent PNU last year. <BR/><BR/>PNU has since absorbed many warriors and ambitious souls under its armpit, among them Deputy Prime Minister Uhuru Kenyatta, who is Kanu chairman, with presidential dreams. <BR/><BR/>Asked how she intends to navigate around Uhuru, and the search of political unity in her Central home under the Gikuyu, Meru and Embu Association (Gema), Karua said: <BR/><BR/>"Politics is a market place of ideas. I have no problem with communities seeking to unite around common interests. But every aspiring leader must come out, submit themselves to democratic processes, and compete with others."<BR/><BR/>She added: "The days of a few fellows sitting down and imposing an individual, or individuals imposing themselves are long gone." <BR/><BR/>It will be the first time Uhuru and Karua, who is doing her 16th year in Parliament and sixth as Cabinet minister, are being involved in high profile political battles.<BR/><BR/>Karua was among Kibaki’s men and women who schemed to cannibalise Kanu in 2006, during the formation of the Government of National Unity, a move that severely weakened Kanu’s ranks and Uhuru’s clout in Parliament. <BR/><BR/>Then they met again in Upper Eastern during the by-election occasioned by the Marsabit air crash. During which Narc-Kenya made serious inroads into the traditional Kanu stronghold. <BR/><BR/>But even a she seeks the highest office of the land, Karua said women should also stand up to be counted, and resist attempts to put them down through what she called ‘oppressive and demeaning questions about whether they had husbands or money before running for public office’. <BR/><BR/>"No one asks men if they have wives, or how much money they have before they seek elective offices," the minister reiterated.<BR/><BR/>"Even if a woman presidential candidate had a husband it’s not him who is applying for the job," She interjected, adding, "It’s double standards that women should resist and insist on being rated on ideas and merit." <BR/><BR/>Whether she convinces the party to vote her the national chairperson at the end of the year or not, Karua has her work cut out in keeping the party together and recruiting new members. <BR/><BR/>Already signs of cracks in the party ranks have appeared with several founder members and leading defenders pulling out of active involvement.<BR/><BR/>For instance, youthful MPs and assistant ministers Mwangi Kiunjuri and Peter Munya recently declined to sign up in the party’s list of MPs in Parliament.<BR/><BR/>They cited personal reasons and "need to take a breather and consult my constituents", a coded way to say they were no longer enthusiastic about the party.<BR/><BR/>Several ministers have also not been keen on attending key meetings, including the anniversary last week. <BR/><BR/>But by Karua’s side is interim secretary general Danson Mungatana, who is all fired up and dreams of a national flower party that will lead the charge to the next General Election, on its own. <BR/><BR/>On Friday, Mungatana said Narc-Kenya wants to build a party whose members demand accountability from its leaders: <BR/><BR/>"Jomo Kenyatta reigned, in complete disregard of party rank and file, views and feelings of members. Retired President Moi revamped Kanu, made it his tool of governance. But even then, members and party hierarchy had little say but rubber stamp his will and whims like a military outfit implementing commands from the centre," said Mungatana. <BR/><BR/>The Garsen MP says President Kibaki has behaved more or less like Kenyatta, which he says is not good for democracy. <BR/><BR/>"After getting to State House, he abandoned the parties that got him there, never consults them and makes decisions alone," said Mungatana, who is an Assistant Minister for Medical Services. <BR/><BR/>He added: "The party has no influence on the President or his decisions whatsoever. That’s not how things should be. A leader’s supporters should have a say on decisions, through the party." Mungatana is one of the MPs who went to Parliament through Narc-Kenya. <BR/><BR/>"For a President to make decisions on his own without consulting is bad for democracy and governance. Kenyans should demand accountability from leaders," said Mungatana.<BR/><BR/>"At party level there are no presidents and ministers but members. Narc-Kenya is leading in reversing this trend." <BR/><BR/>Narc-Kenya activities and those of former Baringo Central MP Gideon Moi, who has lately become vocal about revamping Kanu, are putting pressure on Uhuru Kenyatta, to declare his colours. <BR/><BR/>Some sources say Uhuru may not be keen on Kanu any longer, and could be eyeing a deal to assume leadership of PNU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-49383094322085171982008-06-07T13:49:00.000-07:002008-06-07T13:49:00.000-07:00Anony 12.59, instead of engaging in empty DOMO, wh...Anony 12.59, instead of engaging in empty DOMO, why not just have the Government Inspector, that man who supposedly "supervises and coordinates" government ministers summon Kalonzo Musyoka into his office and demand an explanation about this "arbitrary release of kikuyu inmates". I thought he had some executive powers he can use to demand answers or is the VP outside his sphere of jurisdiction?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-78685275218663119952008-06-07T13:24:00.000-07:002008-06-07T13:24:00.000-07:00Knops, Ivy I'm very much around. You know where to...Knops, Ivy I'm very much around. You know where to find me. Taabu should be back on air most likely tomorrow. <BR/><BR/>It's our politics that are rather dizzying sometimes. RAO a GEMA elder? I thought it's these tribal groupings that we should be getting rid of first.<BR/><BR/>I'm with Fave. I hope there is a method to the madness.<BR/><BR/>Away from that, there are people in this century who still think of AIDS in terms of tribes? anon 4.46?Shiko-Msahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11220304153256382144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-71395053069703499642008-06-07T13:06:00.000-07:002008-06-07T13:06:00.000-07:00@ 12:52.You are a disgrace. Your thinking and misc...@ 12:52.<BR/><BR/>You are a disgrace. Your thinking and misconceptions defy any kind of tribal thoughts. <BR/><BR/>With the economic conditions in the country, coupled with the social setting that we find ourselves in, does it occur to you that prositution is a national matter, International mattaer and a universal one. Any tribe in Kenya can turn to prostitution.<BR/><BR/>Stop saying that only Kikuyus flock Florida. If I can make it bitter for you, in Switzerland, many of the Kenyan women married by Swiss men are LUO and they are hooked in Mombasa. (This is a FACT and as they say, FACTS are ARROGANT)<BR/><BR/>You mean to tell me that, if a white man hooks up with a Kamba/Luhya/Giriama/Digo/Dorobo lady in Florida, she automatically ANNOINTED to be a Kikuyu? If it is the lingua, some of us speak more than one fluently! <BR/><BR/>Far away from the discussion you people are having, the post in question talks about the LUO POLITICAL MESSIAH Raila Odinga being annointed to the world of presidents. <BR/><BR/>Incidentally, Mwai Kibaki has never been annointed and has served Kenya as a popularly elected president. Secondly, Kuguru's place of annointing is PAST RIVER CHANIA, while Moi was annointed on the other side of Chania and still failed to apply the midas touch that Uhuru Kenyatta long wished for.<BR/><BR/>Kwa hivyo, wacha DOMO chafu. <BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-86433580319839631262008-06-07T12:59:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:59:00.000-07:00kalonzo musyoka releases kikuyu prisoners from all...kalonzo musyoka releases kikuyu prisoners from all over the country prisons!!! shame!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>kumekucha?? did you check on the story on the kikuyu prisoners being released from all over the country at night?? sources on ground have confirmed to me it is true- after reading one of the posts here- i followed up and guess what that is what is happening as per some of the prison guards we managed to talk to!! <BR/><BR/>Kumekucha this is serious- and my question is why did DAILY NATION print lies?? they should be ask where they got their story to cover up the real truth on th prison releases- kalonzo musyoka should gives kenyans the answer to why??<BR/>when the same people are shouting no amnesty?? we need to know the truth?? where is ODM when all this is happening? they seem to be asleep on the job!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6174696943227341402008-06-07T12:52:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:52:00.000-07:00anon12:42 PMreally your ignorance amazes me- most ...anon12:42 PM<BR/>really your ignorance amazes me- most kikuyu's married to muzungu's are prostitutes-<BR/>do your homework- Florida night clubs nairobi- mombasa - if that what it means for kikuyu's to be special then i rest my case- other tribes in Kenya have more class- when they marry a muzungu it is because they attended the same universities or worked in the same organizations but not picked from the streets! prostituting!! <BR/><BR/>kumekuha please post i needed to answer anon 12:42Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47109299621802723312008-06-07T12:42:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:42:00.000-07:00Anon 6.29…it’s true, only one tribe in Kenya matte...Anon 6.29…it’s true, only one tribe in Kenya matters. Have you not noticed as well; in all Kenyan tribe including Wazungus marrying a Kikuyu woman is considered a cool move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-44024332802606277472008-06-07T12:32:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:32:00.000-07:00I feel very sloppy about this idea of adorning and...I feel very sloppy about this idea of adorning and anointing Mr Odinga as a Kikuyu elder.<BR/>If at all this ceremony is to go ahead, I will have to withdraw my support for Kikuyus.<BR/><BR/>Raila should first and foremost condemn the violence that erupted after Dec election, then apologise to Kikuyus for demonising them and take full responsibility for the violence that followed.<BR/>Then, we can begin to talk about him becoming a Kikuyu elder. At the moment I think this is a very impolitic decision taken by MEGA.<BR/><BR/>KwaleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-41305201573197880032008-06-07T12:31:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:31:00.000-07:00@ 10:47 Dead WrongThe big question here is, who is...@ 10:47 Dead Wrong<BR/><BR/>The big question here is, who is annointing Raila Odinga, NOT KIBAKI, but a perrenial election loser. One man who slaughter more goats than the votes he ammased in 1997. <BR/><BR/>While Peter Kuguru, son of the the Patriach of his clan, the Kuguru clan, Davidson, the life MP of the constituency cannot even feel the shame of annointing an outsider, let alone a man who called the entire tribe ADUI, I just wonder how desparation can reduce business acumen to punting.<BR/><BR/>On the flip side of it all, I would loudly wonder why, Raila Odinga has not made the homecoming in Embu where he should by all means be annointed an Embu elder by the Njuri Ncheke for awarding them with a ministry and rushes to hug the Kikyu he hates.<BR/><BR/>But his love for the Kikuyu runs deep. Is this not the man who boast of an MOU (This man with these!) with the Mungiki, flesh and blood of the same people he calls ADUI. The people he had vowed to wipe out of office and government appointments.<BR/><BR/>Me (Derek, yes me) thinks Raila's life is a PETRI DISH of sorts and he will try every trick in the book to become president. His experimenting will never cease.<BR/><BR/>Remember this one in 2012: He will say that he agreed with Kibaki that he leave it for him and told Peter Kuguru to announint him a Kikuyu elder. (The Muigai clain did one with Moi in Ichaweri in 2001 and flopped big)<BR/><BR/>Still loudly thinking, I wonder why RAO has not ammased the ODM troupes for a homecoming that should snake from the TOTAL junction through to Elburgon, to KIpkelion, all the way to Kisii, before setting for Malaba and Tesoland and then back to Nairobi through the Eldoret Road to say KONGO MISING (to the Kalenjns be used twice- to vote for him and to sustain the dialogu process through a reign of terror never seen before in East Africa).<BR/><BR/>Why Nyeri and why Kuguru and why the Kikuyu, a tribe he so hates that he makes his own secreatry announce economic sabatage against their businesses, a tribe he called ADUI, a tribe he and his cronies have called THIEVES.<BR/><BR/>Why Central Kenya and he has not even been made an Elder in Luhyaland, not South NYanza and not even the Ogada Clan in Kisumu. <BR/><BR/>This one shows desparation in the man. It might be planned for other reasons, maybe, because their business premises are close to each other in Industrial Area, but ooh NO!<BR/><BR/>Did he say something about TUMBILI one time??? Ndiyo hii sasa. Hekaya za abunuwasi!!!<BR/><BR/>...Ni ADUI YET...!!!<BR/><BR/>But do I say that Kazi inaendelea.<BR/><BR/>-Derek-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-9362797254021710092008-06-07T12:26:00.000-07:002008-06-07T12:26:00.000-07:00Anon 10:47 AM - "It would be only a foolish person...Anon 10:47 AM - "It would be only a foolish person who would not see through this cover-up....."<BR/><BR/>But maybe Raila is so foolish not to see the trap laid put for him or better, he thinks that becoming a Kikuyu Elder makes him more equal to the leading tribe in Kenya. Although he should also realize that this more than stupid ceremony would also demonstrate that he has decided to openly leave his Luo heritage behind, something he has in reality done a long time ago but never acknowledged in public. He only pretends being still a Luo when it suits him for political reasons knowing that all Luos will follow him blindly and vote for him. But deep down in his heart he has outlived his heritage when he left for Germany and studied there. And he never changed after this. He is a cosmopolitan in the best sense of the word. But since Kenyans are still living with the Tribal Sword hanging above their heads, he has to pretend to be still one of the retarded ones. What a shame - for him and for Kenya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6516466449708727132008-06-07T10:47:00.000-07:002008-06-07T10:47:00.000-07:00anon11:53 PMRaila does not need a kikuyu vote to w...anon11:53 PM<BR/><BR/>Raila does not need a kikuyu vote to win the presidency!! he already won it on 27th december 2007 but kibaki rigged and slaughtered innocent kenyans by ordering the police to shoot and kill for him to be able to stay in statehouse- <BR/><BR/>Get this straight Raila still does not need the kikuyu vote to proof that he won the last elections hands down- so stop spewing your nonsense here- if kuguru wants to remove the kikuyu voting bloc from central and join in the national way of voting in kenya by supporting Raila?? WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH THAT??<BR/><BR/>but if i were Raila i would caution that plan from kuguru- this people are very close to kibaki and cronies if i recall and look at past history- they maybe planning something terrible for Raila look at all those released murderers from nyeri prisons?? if one killed Raila?? who would be blamed?? si they will just take back the murderer to prison and make excuses meanwhile Raila is 6ft under!! if i was Raila!! I would not attend and many Kikuyu's have the same sentiments they are smelling a rat<BR/>they say gema and kuguru's group are one and the same group and some say they have seen this groups meeting together recently in Nyeri!<BR/><BR/>my question is why is Raila being foolish to except to be crowned in Nyeri of all the places?? KIBAKI'S BACK YARD?? DOESN'T THIS LOOK ODD TO HIM?? it would be only a foolish person who does not see through this cover-up and like i have said what is waiting for Raila odinga in Nyeri is not crowning of an kikuyu elder but sorry to say this his death on a golden platter planned and executed by the kikuyu mafia!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-1163713539686355162008-06-07T10:34:00.000-07:002008-06-07T10:34:00.000-07:00anon11:08 PMyour theatrics and hate belong to blog...anon11:08 PM<BR/><BR/>your theatrics and hate belong to blogs like mashada- why not move there or you are already a member there looking at your post!! maybe you should indeed stay in central Lesotho since you are not the type to cohabit with other tribes- buzz off!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40692697606143069382008-06-07T09:48:00.000-07:002008-06-07T09:48:00.000-07:00Anon 11:08 Poa mzee, you look a serious guy and ke...Anon 11:08 <BR/><BR/>Poa mzee, you look a serious guy and kenyans should heed your advise. I come from those people you say are lazy - i agree with some of your thoughts but on others you are wrong. Overall i think was a good post. My fellow bro and sis from nyanza lets seize the moment and invest back home. I was there last weekend and everyone is nolstalgic about what government will do and not what they will do. Am sorry guys from my region, but i think we need to do some civic kind of education on attitude change of our people. The expectation back there are just too much - we should stay in nairobi but at the same time lets bring our people together for meaningful development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-88950773455775131862008-06-07T09:36:00.000-07:002008-06-07T09:36:00.000-07:00KIKUYU NA UKABILA IS TOO MUCH. READ ON BELOW.http:...KIKUYU NA UKABILA IS TOO MUCH. READ ON BELOW.<BR/><BR/>http://breakingnewskenya.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/obama_primaries_kenya_reaction/<BR/><BR/>[b]Obama win gets mixed reception in Kenya[/b]<BR/>Posted on June 5, 2008 by kenyanobserver <BR/>Article posted on June 5, 2008 by nairobichronicle<BR/><BR/>Like everything else in Kenya these days, the victory of Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee has split public opinion into two even as the rest of Africa celebrates.<BR/><BR/>Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama. His win is drawing mixed reactions in Kenya due to ethnic politics.<BR/><BR/>The Senator from Illinois made history by becoming the first African American to win the presidential ticket on a major US political party. There was joy across the black diaspora, from North America, the Caribbean and the African motherland itself. In Kenya though, local political dynamics mean that close to half of Kenyans actually dread the prospects of an Obama presidency.<BR/><BR/>Senator Obama’s father was a Kenyan from the Luo tribe which resides around Lake Victoria. In Kenya’s general elections held in December last year, the Luo supported Raila Odinga and the ODM party against President Mwai Kibaki and the PNU party. Kibaki got votes from Central and Eastern Kenya mostly from his Kikuyu tribe. The elections were so close that disputes over the actual winner degenerated into political and ethnic violence that left 1,500 dead and half a million refugees.<BR/><BR/>During the worst of the violence early this year, Senator Obama who was engrossed in campaigning for the primaries issued a statement calling on Kenyans to unite for the sake of progress.<BR/><BR/>International mediation resulted in a giant coalition government with Kibaki as president and Raila as prime minister. Inspite of the peace deal, ethnic tensions still simmer.<BR/><BR/>Obama’s victory in the United States is being interpreted in Kenya for its possible implications on the political landscape. The Luo feel that an Obama presidency will help develop their area and provide jobs to the youth. They also believe that an Obama presidency will boost the chances for Prime Minister Raila to ascend to the presidency in the near future. Indeed, Raila himself has alluded that he and Obama are distant cousins.<BR/><BR/>Because of these hopes, the Kikuyu fear that should Obama win the US presidency, the Luo and Prime Minister Raila will gain a significant edge in influencing American policy towards Kenya. The US has veto power in the United Nations and controls the policies of the World Bank and IMF. The US provides Kenya with millions of dollars in military aid. Thus, a US president that identifies with Prime Minister Raila Odinga could portend declining fortunes for Kibaki and his Kikuyu tribe.<BR/><BR/>Senator Obama was in Kenya in 2006 where he criticized President Kibaki’s government for corruption. President Kibaki and his supporters viewed the criticism as an endorsement of Raila. Since then, Obama has kept mum over Kenya’s political developments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48486866711301959692008-06-07T08:38:00.000-07:002008-06-07T08:38:00.000-07:00By the way, I admire Kuguru's business acumen, and...By the way, I admire Kuguru's business acumen, and he was my hero as a kid. He wrote one of the Wamugumo story books I won in primo. That's personal, but you don't reward all of my heroes with political support. <BR/><BR/>Take note Knoppix!®, Phil described Kuguru as the 'perennial parliamentary candidate'. In other words, the always-runs, never-wins kind of guy hence my use of 'perennial loser'. Maybe that'll change in the future. <BR/>He does have economic might, but any business he transacts with or on behalf of Raila is political, no?Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-26315284350866922702008-06-07T08:28:00.000-07:002008-06-07T08:28:00.000-07:00Knoppix!®No offense taken. Politicized issues dese...Knoppix!®<BR/><BR/>No offense taken. Politicized issues deserve political responses. Do you think Raila would be Kikuyu 'eldernized' if he was not a politician? How many non-political Luo leaders are Kalenjin and Kikuyu elders.Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-8856635553897907222008-06-07T08:27:00.000-07:002008-06-07T08:27:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.com