tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post3981069539045010465..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: What Those Campaigning For 2012 Do Not KnowUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-83582498925522672832008-10-17T10:49:00.000-07:002008-10-17T10:49:00.000-07:00voting in Canada was peaceful; final results were ...voting in Canada was peaceful; final results were out the next day; disband ECK and hire Elections Canada!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-62446419408915477522008-10-15T15:39:00.000-07:002008-10-15T15:39:00.000-07:00Urxlnc,In short you have no faith in any of these ...Urxlnc,<BR/><BR/>In short you have no faith in any of these people. I agree. But we have to start somewhere. The issue of ECK can be fixed easily. 1st of we have to fire the whole crew. Next is we need to change a few business details. Why do the results have to be read at KICC? Why can't we have the results announced at the polling station to the media once all officials from all parties have signed on as verification? <BR/><BR/>Scare tactics and intimidation and disenfranchisement will forever be the bane of our system. May be what we need then is a combination of both popular vote and "electoral vote" that would be done by MPs. And we should change the MP elections from being held on the same year as the presidential. <BR/><BR/>I'd also like to see ministers be civil servants and not politicians. They should resign one post to be able to run for the other. MPs should be law makers instead of always campaigning and politiking and not deliverying services.<BR/><BR/>Am just for tinkering with the system to have something that is better than what we have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-30839066231713577442008-10-15T14:10:00.000-07:002008-10-15T14:10:00.000-07:00kalamarithats funny ==giving such responsibility t...kalamari<BR/><BR/>thats funny <BR/>==<BR/>giving such responsibility to our current MPs is like asking a hyena to store some juicy burgers in a refrigerator until Monday<BR/>==<BR/><BR/>back to the issue you and papa + raise, whereas it may appear prudent under the current environment, the big problem is looking forward and like our current constitution, once these "powers" are given, its a monumental task and near imppossble feat to reverse the process. can you for one minute imagine convincing all the MPs to give up their salaries and perks that they awarded themselves (including 1st, 2nd, 3rd and however many other ladies upkeep) so how do you expect down the road to have them relinquish the one single hold they will have over the executive. think about it.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-58732415148715713152008-10-15T13:45:00.000-07:002008-10-15T13:45:00.000-07:00Furthermore, it is clear that our own ‘credible EC...Furthermore, it is clear that our own ‘credible ECK’ is actually not credible at all. These people cannot or have refused to learn how to count. Even if we fire Kivuitu, the next appointee will face the same ruthless threats from current and future incumbents. <BR/>I do not foresee a prudent and independent ECK in the near future. So, in the absence of acceptable fairness, how can we justify a national presidential vote? I agree that giving such responsibility to our current MPs is like asking a hyena to store some juicy burgers in a refrigerator until Monday, but what choice do we have?kalamarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06170054004030521381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-34011253592638008492008-10-15T13:33:00.000-07:002008-10-15T13:33:00.000-07:00Papa Plus, I too kind of agree with Ruto. In the ...Papa Plus, I too kind of agree with Ruto. In the Kenya we live in today, the ideals of ‘one man one vote’ cannot exist. Even though this past election saw some ‘100%’ voter turnout in some areas, the reality is that our infrastructure does not allow equal representation at the ballot. Throw in bribery, threats to life, actual regional violence, regional logistics etc and you must agree that the opportunity to vote is indeed not equal in all parts of Kenya. If we cannot all go to the polling station under the same ‘general’ circumstances/atmosphere, why allow a popular vote for president? <BR/>Now if you put it to a constituency election, due to the size of the area, all voters will generally vote under the same weather, security, tension etc thereby making the exercise relatively fair for all MP candidates. Forgive me if I’m not making any sense here. This is kind of off the cuff, i.e. not total conviction so don’t skin me alive.kalamarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06170054004030521381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16118467191302009002008-10-15T13:29:00.000-07:002008-10-15T13:29:00.000-07:00anon 10:16yes, urban population densities will cer...anon 10:16<BR/><BR/>yes, urban population densities will certainly be a factor and i see and agree with your point. i also think geographic profiling (man made or natural) also plays a big role in effective service delivery. to optimize between efficient service delivery and bloated administration is always a touch predicament that must be tackled but on the other hand other issues such as if the administrative unit can provide sufficient resources/funding then that would certainly be a plus.<BR/><BR/>there always exists the possibility in our perennial culture of handouts for administrative units (boundaries) being set up and due to lack of funds, soon become hollow shells siphoning funds that could have been better utilised elsewhere through consolidation.<BR/><BR/>the best decisions are made if we can also evaluate by removing ourselves and present environment from the equation and genuinely consider long term needs/goals.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-90769679357394941532008-10-15T12:32:00.000-07:002008-10-15T12:32:00.000-07:0011:18 AMMzalendo do shut up start by cutting your...11:18 AM<BR/><BR/>Mzalendo do shut up start by cutting your own incest filled dick. kwani you can't get enough incest filled kikuyu dicks to chop off?? I mean castrate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59509552715639071222008-10-15T12:26:00.000-07:002008-10-15T12:26:00.000-07:00I think that Ruto's suggestion has merit. When you...I think that Ruto's suggestion has merit. When you consider that votes in Kenya now don't count on election day, then this is one way of dealing with the issue. It will demystify the presidiency and allow him or her to rule with a majority consent. The British use this system. The antics at Nairobi city counsel notwithstanding are better than the antics we saw post election, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-5418434106240929742008-10-15T11:18:00.000-07:002008-10-15T11:18:00.000-07:00Oo , somebody here need a CUT to shut up.I offer t...Oo , somebody here need a CUT to shut up.<BR/><BR/>I offer the service for free, in fact I forcibly CUT 2 in January this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-13414077385340706452008-10-15T10:16:00.000-07:002008-10-15T10:16:00.000-07:00Urxlnc,You appear to be the only voice of reason l...Urxlnc,<BR/><BR/>You appear to be the only voice of reason left on the ODM side in this blog. I wish we could discuss this issue about constituency boundaries peacefully away from the indecent noise going on here.<BR/><BR/>Your proposal that the boundaries be based on viability of service delivery among other factors is good. As a follow-up I suggest that the upper limits of population densities of urban constituencies be different from those of rural areas. It is easier for an MP to reach and listen to more people in an urban area than in a rural area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-35685412327725108982008-10-15T10:03:00.000-07:002008-10-15T10:03:00.000-07:00anon9:57 AMOnly a kikuyu malaya or a fagot like Kw...anon9:57 AM<BR/><BR/>Only a kikuyu malaya or a fagot like Kwale can congratulate him on here:) si you are birds of the same feathers:) what can I say.. keep clapping for your kikuyu brainless mungiki brother Kwale who confirm lack of education and an appetite on excelling in thieving and thuggery activities:) Bravo...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-63815706064374515312008-10-15T09:59:00.000-07:002008-10-15T09:59:00.000-07:00anon9:19 AMDo shut up and go tell kibaki to pay up...anon9:19 AM<BR/><BR/>Do shut up and go tell kibaki to pay up for burning his tribesmen in Eldoret church... ordering police to shoot and kill Kenyans and up to now he is still executing mungiki youth his own kikuyu tribesmen at his pleasure the old senile kibaki fool should face execution too.. mpumbavu sana..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-87121941573006673162008-10-15T09:57:00.000-07:002008-10-15T09:57:00.000-07:00Again, Bravo! Kwale,You really know how to put saf...Again, Bravo! Kwale,<BR/><BR/>You really know how to put safari ants in the pants of these ODMorons. For two days in a row you have singlehandedly defended yourself against waves of these hordes of intellectually infertile stone throwers. Yesterday, they were led by King Charles; today, even Taabu has decided to taste the bait. <BR/><BR/>I hope they don't miss their matatus again tonight. If they do they may have to spend the night among stray dogs because have been stripped bare by the nocturnal citizens of K-Street.<BR/><BR/>What is pitiful about these characters is that, for two days, none of them have discovered that you are enjoying baiting them. Did Kikuyus steal their brains together with their votes last December?? <BR/><BR/>Let them continue to bark at the full moon. What else can I say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-14812808236220998102008-10-15T09:22:00.000-07:002008-10-15T09:22:00.000-07:00chriswe have been enjoying some high level of matu...chris<BR/><BR/>we have been enjoying some high level of mature discussion here for a while now. there are some unfortunate comments above that have no place in upright society or in this forum and there is no reason to entertain the insults above which include those from mzalendo and the feedback generated.UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-82391822466552506902008-10-15T09:19:00.000-07:002008-10-15T09:19:00.000-07:00ODM planned violence!!!http://www.eastandard.net/I...ODM planned violence!!!<BR/><BR/>http://www.eastandard.net/InsidePage.php?id=1143997046&cid=418&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-68663647988911606912008-10-15T09:10:00.000-07:002008-10-15T09:10:00.000-07:00kimihaven't gone through the entire summary you've...kimi<BR/><BR/>haven't gone through the entire summary you've posted on the IREC recommendations, you've put in some serious thought<BR/><BR/>i agree that Ruto's "proposal" for parliament to elect a president is absurd. for years now we have watched the fiasco of councillors electing a mayor and many proposals have been forwarded so that Nairobi residents directly elect the mayor and almost all MPs have been for this arrangement, its therefore absurd that they turn around and want to introduce the same shenanigans in Parliament to elect a president. <BR/><BR/>as for constituency boundary review, i maintain that the review should be carried out, but the contention of basing it on numbers alone is a highly dicey proposition and could lead to tremendous abuse. remove from the picture all the MPs you currently know and picture this<BR/><BR/>suppose its based on numbers e.g 80,000 ceiling and 10,000 minimum. Lets forget for a moment Central province which appears to be the focus of boundary review, look at Nairobi with a population of between 3 and 4 M. Nairobi alone will now have 50 MPs up from the 8, but thats not all, some areas of nairobi (the affluent leafy suburbs) only have hundreds whereas adjacent ghetto/slum hoods have 100's of thousands, such that places like dandora, kibera, kawangware etc will have 15 MPs and drawing those boundaries will be require the services of a profound political surgeon. That sir is a recipe for pure anarchy and chaos.<BR/><BR/>lets put everything into consideration and base the boundary review on effective service delivery as well as societal and cultural harmony and integration which is the primary reason for administrative boundaries. this thrust for parliament supremacy will in the long run be counterproductive. <BR/><BR/>what are your views on that?UrXlnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975473173690337119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59215922150848602222008-10-15T08:23:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:23:00.000-07:00anon8:21 AMShut up you incest filled fagot... who ...anon8:21 AM<BR/><BR/>Shut up you incest filled fagot... who are you addressing? the filthy likes if you must be castrated- call yourself Kwale or Mzelando who cares... you are a filthy skunk of a human being- shenzi kabisa,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-2394074885717588352008-10-15T08:21:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:21:00.000-07:00Anon 8:08Come down! Stop tagging other people's na...Anon 8:08<BR/>Come down! Stop tagging other people's name on me. I have been posting here before anonymously many many times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-69417963536930514992008-10-15T08:20:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:20:00.000-07:00anon8:12 AMOh do shut up!! the whole world and Ken...anon8:12 AM<BR/><BR/>Oh do shut up!! the whole world and Kenyans know that first Kibaki and Moi paid for those kikuyu's to be burned in Eldoret church..<BR/><BR/>second the world and kenyans watched on national and international media POLICE SHOOTING DOWN INNOCENT KENYANS LIKE DOGS following kibaki's orders..<BR/><BR/>do shut up and get your ass back to kikuyu Lesotho central where you belong... kibaki's days are numbered the senile skunk will go 6ft under at the hands of the Mungiki murderous gang that he keeps executing at pleasure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-91304288585133291342008-10-15T08:16:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:16:00.000-07:00anon8:07 AMAll KIKUYU DICK INCEST MONSTERS WILL FA...anon8:07 AM<BR/><BR/>All KIKUYU DICK INCEST MONSTERS WILL FACE THE KNIFE - their dicks need to be cut off for filthy habit- too many disabled children at schools like Jacaranda from kikuyu families because of incest is unacceptable-" castration is what must happen to this kikuyu filthy skunks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-75523174505274501972008-10-15T08:12:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:12:00.000-07:00ODM,Its now official, the violence was planned and...ODM,<BR/><BR/>Its now official, the violence was planned and organised. Phil and Taabu do you get this. Could be among the 1500 names? Time will tellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-25563261464140304902008-10-15T08:08:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:08:00.000-07:00Anonymous Mzalendo said... Ivy, take your smel...Anonymous Mzalendo said...<BR/><BR/> Ivy, take your smelly pussy away from here, no-one want to have sex with you.<BR/> I can smell it as far as from Kajiado North. Take it to Nyanza, they f**k anything there.<BR/><BR/> 7:04 AM<BR/><BR/>The above infidel shiate called Mzalendo sounds to me like Kwale same type of rubbish posting here yani this un educated dog is on this blog??? shame shame!!! I think KWALE AND MZALENDO is one and the same person who is Kwale trying to fool coming out abusing people on this blog?? shame on him and by the way Mzalendo you stink just by being on this blog.. move to mashada there is where bloggers use such filthy language you do not belong on this kumekucha blog...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-69360580305871417202008-10-15T08:07:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:07:00.000-07:00All Luos must face the knife!! Agwambo alisema!All Luos must face the knife!! Agwambo alisema!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-22271797184024489162008-10-15T08:05:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:05:00.000-07:00mzalendo, you remind me of those village drunkards...mzalendo, you remind me of those village drunkards who after drinking themselves silly, display their MANHOOD by insulting women by making reference to their genitalia.<BR/>If you think you have scored by insulting Ivy, pole. She still remains cool calm and collected and unscathed(keep it up sister). While you, go on to confirm the idiot we have all along known you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-36948357189841359252008-10-15T08:03:00.000-07:002008-10-15T08:03:00.000-07:00Mzalendothis kikuyu fagot!shenzi type this skunk's...Mzalendo<BR/><BR/>this kikuyu fagot!shenzi type this skunk's mother must still be in pain for giving birth to a filthy smelly fagot since his birth was due to incest..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com