tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post3700327569783172779..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Tell Them off Lucy, Tell ThemUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-30590650924606373492009-02-04T22:41:00.000-08:002009-02-04T22:41:00.000-08:00Cabinet ministers can and SHOULD answer to private...Cabinet ministers can and SHOULD answer to private citizens. Ha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54435468157111009802009-02-04T18:25:00.000-08:002009-02-04T18:25:00.000-08:00Sir Alex, you might want to scroll up to top; I be...Sir Alex, you might want to scroll up to top; I begun by saying,<BR/><BR/>"I can understand her being outraged as a private citizen.." <BR/><BR/>Contrary to your claim, I have no idea what the political implications of Lucy's outbursts are. You are pretending to read too much into my simple observation that Lucy Kibaki has time and time again overstepped her boundaries and the country needs to know exactly what her role is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42423255279635596762009-02-04T01:11:00.000-08:002009-02-04T01:11:00.000-08:00Anon @ 10:53 PM Gett off the politics people have...Anon @ 10:53 PM<BR/> Gett off the politics people have died here...!!!School children<BR/> I really do not understand your problem......RAO or no RAO public servants are accountable to private citizens......My reaction would be the same....for your information RAO has been booed several times by his so called fanatic supporters when he did not appear to represent them as they wished so whats you point.......?<BR/> U c vikii and cicero are looking at the political implications of mama lucy's 'outburst' that is a no brainer its a political blunder.....and forgetting what the rest of us are highlighting....that;<BR/>1)site should have been secured,<BR/>2) Satoiti's comment on learning was immature and irrelevant<BR/>3)Explanations are awed or heads should roll...this is a grave matter<BR/><BR/>The last incident prior to that happend 10yrs ago in nyanza....how are kenyans to learn?, the school kids for example in another farway place they were not even born then its not like they waylayed the tanker they were busy doing what kids do playing the naturally the were attracted to an accident scene...like any normal person....the procedure in such sitioutions is to secure the place by armed forces, that did not happen! Blame the minister for security? makes sense to me. That lucy did it...well politically not clever but when people are dying politics and protocol be danmed. and she is even being very nice some people have been slapped for less offences.<BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48623292282332017612009-02-04T00:51:00.000-08:002009-02-04T00:51:00.000-08:00She missed her pills I tell you...with Mzee some m...She missed her pills I tell you...with Mzee some miles away..appears we had no one to trigger her daily routine to take the tablets..True madness this one..A Written Expl(r)anation..Whats in it for me?https://www.blogger.com/profile/09706572093966683678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79712078688529381492009-02-03T23:31:00.000-08:002009-02-03T23:31:00.000-08:00No amount of name calling will minimize the legiti...No amount of name calling will minimize the legitimacy of Mrs. Kibaki's comments. She has stated facts. <BR/><BR/>The idiots and morons are those who refuse to see beyond their short, flat noses, hiding behind rather dated and evidently unworkable notions of retrogressive bureaucracy. <BR/><BR/>Spare us the nonsense. <BR/><BR/>Great points Sir Alex, I am compelled to say.<BR/><BR/>I'm bored with this. What's the next bit of controversy Chris? Anglo-"Maizing"??!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-65635952985450013122009-02-03T22:53:00.000-08:002009-02-03T22:53:00.000-08:00Sir alex. am following the debate above and am wai...Sir alex. am following the debate above and am waiting for you to say what would be your reaction to similar demands being made to rao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-18816591044290921342009-02-03T22:44:00.000-08:002009-02-03T22:44:00.000-08:00Cicero. very well put.Cicero. very well put.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-26224225850494018602009-02-03T22:41:00.000-08:002009-02-03T22:41:00.000-08:00cicero,You have an amazing ability to enter into l...cicero,<BR/><BR/>You have an amazing ability to enter into lucy's head and examine her motives........but my point is private citizens have the right to question public servants.....thats the whole point. . . . . I do not have an office and desk for Saitoti to report to but I can make such 'claims' the whole idea is to highlight the issue. . . . .<BR/>protocol is just a tool to help but if the same protocol is nothing but another bottle neck then protocol be danmed.....what protocol for example do you use to address a guy trying to rape your daughter?....ask him is name and number? his favourite night spot?....no you clobber him hopefully to death.......<BR/>The only thing Lucy did 'wrong' was make a political blunder by doing that,..but as a private citizen she has a right to question just about everybody for herself not for the general intesrest of the public....<BR/><BR/>then take another look at what b-carotene said @6:13<BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-41292438802026461512009-02-03T18:33:00.000-08:002009-02-03T18:33:00.000-08:00Thank you Cicero. And if I may finally hammer this...Thank you Cicero. And if I may finally hammer this point to this moron and others; if we all demanded that government ministers or anybody else working under them explain themselves in writing about anything we are not happy about or are in need of answers, then we need to hire more supporting ministers and officials because there will be a lot of letter-writing to do. Dude, we are a country of 35 million. If all citizens demanded the minister writes to us, then both ourselves and those who attempt to defend such an outrageous outburst need to be told exactly what we/they are; idiots!Vikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-73004113344736638682009-02-03T10:38:00.000-08:002009-02-03T10:38:00.000-08:00Sir Alex,According to your reasoning, we need not ...Sir Alex,<BR/><BR/>According to your reasoning, we need not have a government then. Let me introduce you to a concept that seems alien to you...protocol.<BR/><BR/>Picture Michelle Obama getting on TV and roaring for Hillary Clinton to provide a "written explanation" of a matter that pertains to her office.<BR/><BR/>Picture Lucy demanding the same kind of subservience from Raila Odinga...? See?<BR/><BR/>You know enough to understand that Lucy was not making demands on behalf of mwananchi but rather as a Queen that she believes she is. When she prances around slapping men and raiding news stations, she does it because she believes that she has the power to do so. It has nothing to do with her believing that she represents the interest of the private citizen.<BR/><BR/>Kenya "will not go anywhere" with people like you who ignore common sense even when it spells itself on your forehead like a stigmata.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-25058403025173113502009-02-03T06:13:00.000-08:002009-02-03T06:13:00.000-08:00I pursue this for the final time, for very obvious...I pursue this for the final time, for very obvious reasons. <BR/><BR/>I don’t really care about the (lame) reasons that have caused some to ignore and/or viciously discount Mrs. Kibaki’s comments but just thought I’d list her concerns here, just for the record. <BR/><BR/>Following are the questions that this private citizen is asking of a certain category of our public servants:<BR/><BR/>“why they failed to secure the scene of the incident.”<BR/><BR/>“avoided if the Provincial Administration took a step to caution the residents of the danger in scooping oil from a fallen tanker.”<BR/><BR/>“Prof Saitoti and his ministry officials of failure to learn from similar incidents in the past.”<BR/><BR/>“demanded an explanation in writing to be presented before her on Tuesday by officials of Internal Security ministry on their reasons for failure to cordon off the area before the explosion.”<BR/><BR/>These are legitimate concerns and the brouhaha totally unfounded if not outright malicious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16940078975649577262009-02-03T06:11:00.000-08:002009-02-03T06:11:00.000-08:00Vikii":It is only the President of Kenya who can o...Vikii<BR/><BR/>":It is only the President of Kenya who can order minister Saitoti to explain himself. Mrs Kibaki does not have an official....'<BR/><BR/>Thats my problem with you...get it?<BR/><BR/>I think I should order any public servant to explain themselves.....this are elected people they REPRESENT US! Where and how do we hold them accountable?<BR/>Pray tell......<BR/>What is the role of a private citizen on such issues?<BR/>Just to get pissed..then what?<BR/><BR/>Heads have to roll dear and they don't until the private citizens like you and lucy ane me demand explanations...it is YOUR CIVIC DUTY....jamani/....ulienda shule gani?<BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-64625352622188846342009-02-03T06:10:00.000-08:002009-02-03T06:10:00.000-08:00Guys i think madam 1st Lady has a point which some...Guys i think madam 1st Lady has a point which some of you are missing.flashback,(was it 10 years ago?)at the GSU roundabout and a trailer currying legal tender(chapaa!)overturned.place was secured in less than two minutes!thats what mama Lucy is talking about au sio?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-20881664272910079982009-02-03T04:45:00.000-08:002009-02-03T04:45:00.000-08:00Anon 1.34am Perhaps you are right. But some people...Anon 1.34am Perhaps you are right. But some people think it is paid for and in fact the way you have put it I would say it can probably only happen when it is paid for. And you know the guy knows a thing or two about the value of propaganda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-24439176903389924832009-02-03T04:33:00.000-08:002009-02-03T04:33:00.000-08:00Sir Alex, you are the exact kind of fellow I would...Sir Alex, you are the exact kind of fellow I would rather not "argue" with. <BR/><BR/>First of all, I need to tell you this; if you want to know what my stand is regarding Prof. Saitoti's ineligibility for any public office, go back in history. Since Feb 2007, I have written an untold number of comments in this blog and in those comments I have made it clear that I have no time for a murderer/thief of the George Saitoti mold. Once again, your little mind tells you I am defending him for political/tribal reasons and that is just dumb. I am trying to make this clear; I believe Saitoti belongs in jail and not in the cabinet.<BR/><BR/>What, however, my comment is doing is to slam a first lady who clearly struggled to make sense. It is time we supported/attacked ideas rather than persons. Her rants did not make sense to me. May be both you and her neeed to tell me what the national security minister should have done to save those lives. How can he prevent accidents? And why would we blame him on road accidents and cushion the Roads and Transport ministers from blame? If you are talking about muttonheads, sir Alex, please look in the mirror.<BR/><BR/>Mwarang'ethe, Mrs Lucy Kibaki is free to express her opinion however stupid that opinion is. What she cannot do--and both you and I can't-- is to demand that governmental officials write to her desk explaining why civic education was not done. Let me be very clear; It is only the President of Kenya who can order minister Saitoti to explain himself. Mrs Kibaki does not have an official government job. She therefore has no business issuing idle threats to government ministers. And that's the whole point about my reference of her as a "private citizen" dangerously lacking in powers. <BR/><BR/>And I think we need to read and understand before hitting the keyboard.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing defensible about this first lady's utterances yesterday and there is nothing blamable on Saitoti about the tragedy. Do you now understad or we should I spend a little more time teaching you this obvious fact?vicmutati@gmail.comVikiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12856714528491258384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-73867971725019539042009-02-03T04:02:00.000-08:002009-02-03T04:02:00.000-08:00Blogger Anonymous said... Anon 12:38 AM,Raila doe...<I>Blogger Anonymous said...<BR/> Anon 12:38 AM,<BR/><BR/>Raila does not seek publicity. Publicity seeks him. Dont you Know that all the country's major newspapers have a squad of reporters and photographers whose sole mission is to "follow" Raila all over the place to get a "story".<BR/><BR/>Once again, Raila does not seek publicity. Publicity seeks him. If you have a problem with his very huge and impressive publicity, train your anger at those who give him publicity.</I><BR/><BR/>I agree entirely.<BR/><BR/>Newspaper daily sales index, web hit counters and even general TV viewership is indeed determined on whether you have Raila on your lead story or not. And that has been the case in Kenya since the days he had turf wars with Kijana Wamalwa in FORD-K. <BR/><BR/>Not surprisingly, the same bug has caught up with international press. CNN, BCC, Al-Jazeera and all major networks were last week chasing Raila all over the place in Davos - for he was seen to be the representative of the African continent thought several Heads of State and Prime Ministers from Africa were in attendance.<BR/><BR/>People like Abiola refused to accept rigged elections and they were killed - period! Others like Bisigye next door have been jailed and hounded. One Tsavingaria was denied a passport and literally had to live in exile. Not the ODM Party Leader who refused to accept a stolen election but was graceful enough to make concessions that returned this country and the entire Eastern Africa region to normalcy.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006931396497105956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47993431715959591112009-02-03T01:46:00.000-08:002009-02-03T01:46:00.000-08:00Vikii, it is now official. Your inferiority compl...Vikii, it is now official. Your inferiority complex has hit the roof. As a private citizen you hate yourself so much, and you think you are useless. I suggest you have a chat with Dr. (Morinho??!), but the first step is to own up on this site that you have a very low self esteem. Daktari, you could do with some pro bono work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-26933472121916264062009-02-03T01:34:00.000-08:002009-02-03T01:34:00.000-08:00Anon 12:38 AM,Raila does not seek publicity. Publi...Anon 12:38 AM,<BR/><BR/>Raila does not seek publicity. Publicity seeks him. Dont you Know that all the country's major newspapers have a squad of reporters and photographers whose sole mission is to "follow" Raila all over the place to get a "story".<BR/><BR/>Once again, Raila does not seek publicity. Publicity seeks him. If you have a problem with his very huge and impressive publicity, train your anger at those who give him publicity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-61895750619303299042009-02-03T00:38:00.000-08:002009-02-03T00:38:00.000-08:00Odmers and especially taabu are only happy because...Odmers and especially taabu are only happy because she took on a pnu minister. She also appeared indrectly to be taking on rao for his love of publicity. I wonder what we would be reading here if she had actually directly refered to rao. That said this is pure kibs succession politics. The statement was not extempore: it appeared very well rehearsed.<BR/><BR/>Taabu: when are you going to post about ruto?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-59581824088592108212009-02-03T00:26:00.000-08:002009-02-03T00:26:00.000-08:00Vikii said... Mrs. Libaki is an embarassment to bo...Vikii said... <BR/>Mrs. Libaki is an embarassment to both the country and the President. This first lady needs to be told the truth--and I believe that the best placed person to do that is Prof. Saitoti himself--that she is nothing, but a private citizen.<BR/><BR/>Our Comment:<BR/><BR/>We did not know that you hold the private citizen with such contempt. <BR/><BR/>You could have said all you wanted to say about Lucy and her useless opinions without implying that a private citizen in Kenya is useless.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-64351419466398928392009-02-03T00:11:00.000-08:002009-02-03T00:11:00.000-08:00C'mon guys--I dont see what Mrs. Kibaki has done w...C'mon guys--I dont see what Mrs. Kibaki has done wrong. At least she speaks on my behalf--I need an explanation too. Go get em Lucy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-20503112436308655262009-02-02T23:29:00.000-08:002009-02-02T23:29:00.000-08:00Vikii and company Have just prooved themselves wor...Vikii and company <BR/><BR/><BR/>Have just prooved themselves worse that any RAO manic they have denigrated on this site day in day out........you have just gone and committed the unpardonable sin.....<BR/>Ati just a private citizen.....shame shame.....you so willing to denfend Saitoti.....to the extent that yo make a complete fool of yourselves.....this same saitioti of Goledenbag?.....What other reason could it be other than he is either you tribes man or he is at least not that other tribe that you hate so much......<BR/>leo mumepatikana.....<BR/><BR/>Given Lucy could be wrong....in who to blame...but surely a private citizen is no small person surely hapo...mume noa....<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-88699514376154491952009-02-02T23:15:00.000-08:002009-02-02T23:15:00.000-08:00cicero...vikii'''Saitoti himself--that she is noth...cicero...vikii<BR/>'''Saitoti himself--that she is nothing, but a private citizen. '''<BR/><BR/>You all the reason this country will not go anywhere.....you calim to fight for justice and the common man but Alaas your colonised DNA lets you down.......If the president is the chief servant...the who is the minister of internal security......these guys report directly to the 'private citizen.' thats the most powerfull guy and the end of that command structure.... Ole wetu......<BR/><BR/>Its because of you rotten attitude that this sick man of africa called kenya is headed nowhere fast.....Ati she is only a private citizen....shame on you....did you even think.....so a private citizen should just be outragged and then waht?.....I join Lucy is asking for a written statement on my desk now! And saitoti should present it kneeling.....Where death is involved we must go beyond 'feeling outragged as a private citizen' what shithead thinking is that?!!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sir AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29474201251343847392009-02-02T22:54:00.000-08:002009-02-02T22:54:00.000-08:00I did not agree with the first lady reading the ri...I did not agree with the first lady reading the riot act to Saitoti, it made no sense to me. In any case Saitoti said people should learn from that incident....obviously Nakuru residents did not! What more could he have done? Tena the way she said Saitoti's docket needs to go to a woman member of parliament makes you wonder what that was really about.<BR/><BR/>If she really wanted to shout at someone for not doing their work then it should have been the Minister of Public Health coz surely she should have been the one doing civic education telling the public to stay away from hazards. Or even the Minister of Local Government or whoever is in-charge of safety in public buildings. This one of Saitoti she was just settling a score in my humble opinion. What for? I don't know!Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288215409363459147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-81253120002593743982009-02-02T21:03:00.000-08:002009-02-02T21:03:00.000-08:00Vikii,That was TOTAL RAGE lil bro, kwani kuna moto...Vikii,<BR/>That was TOTAL RAGE lil bro, kwani kuna moto wapi? All the same I fear fro you since Lucy spares no cheeks. When was the last time you were SLAPPED hard across the face? Don't worry I will deal with her should she threaten you-BB.<BR/><BR/>PS: I understand your bitterness though. 5-0 inn 2 weeks till you have lost your lips na bado. Not white, not black and not blue JUST RED; OT=Theatre of Dreams.Taabuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559980653513330275noreply@blogger.com