tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post2733838949181819168..comments2024-03-24T12:17:00.460-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Breaking News: Kenyans Prepare For The Worst As Talks Over Cabinet CollapseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger135125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84764463884222906372008-04-08T07:17:00.000-07:002008-04-08T07:17:00.000-07:00Why are we not being realistic?Can someone transla...Why are we not being realistic?<BR/>Can someone translate the accord into Kikuyu and distribute it to that half cabinet?<BR/>Even my 13 year old son seems to understand 50-50 very well.You cannot slaughter a goat and give the entire insides (tripe) to one side ands claim it was shared 50-50?<BR/>No army or police can stop an idea whose time has come.<BR/>ODM won that election and now we are going to proceed and take what belongs to us.<BR/>Kibaki will not rule a people who did not and will not vote for him.<BR/>Secession will be the final choice.But remember the IDP camps are full of PUNUS who cannot return to their homes without the accord working.<BR/>Either way it is a lose-lose situation for Kibaki the liar/thief.<BR/>The accord has to work whether Kibaki likes it or not.The international community cannot afford to lose Kenya-remember?<BR/><BR/>DjRik.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-52660055956048908462008-04-08T06:52:00.000-07:002008-04-08T06:52:00.000-07:00The only solution is secession even if on a trial...The only solution is secession even if on a trial basis.<BR/>Kibs can then appoint 50 ministers all okuyos no need for Portofolio balance. And given that they are so rich they will not even be feeling the pinch of paying so many ministers!!!<BR/>We thought we got rid of Satan but my goodness he is back in the heads and hearts of PUNU with a vengeance- Washindwe hawa washenzi!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-30504981084525894542008-04-08T00:36:00.000-07:002008-04-08T00:36:00.000-07:00Simple 11:27/11:56 they will be allowed to choose ...Simple 11:27/11:56 they will be allowed to choose where they want to be.<BR/><BR/>Anon 11:27 didn't you hear Rice....Real power sharing stupidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-70958188980945438482008-04-07T23:56:00.000-07:002008-04-07T23:56:00.000-07:00ha ha haanon 11:27where do you take western kenya ...ha ha ha<BR/><BR/>anon 11:27<BR/><BR/>where do you take western kenya who voted for kibaki?<BR/><BR/>that was a good one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74508023317014210962008-04-07T23:27:00.000-07:002008-04-07T23:27:00.000-07:00I have read through most of these threads and I am...I have read through most of these threads and I am suprised at how easily we kenyans are manipulated.<BR/><BR/>I was watching the Raila/ODM press conference and I must say in terms of choreography and maximum effect Salim Lone is very good at manipulating the media.<BR/><BR/>The lesser Pentagons(sexagons if you include Ngilu) arrived at 6.50 p.m. and proceeded to sit to create an atmosphere of anxiety and waiting. <BR/><BR/>At 6.57, Anyang Nyongo was looking at his watch and whsipering into Balala ears. 6.58 pm. Anyang nyongo looks at his watch again. In the background Tony Gachoka is urging media to put phones on silent. <BR/><BR/>6.59 pm. The real Pentagons - Raila, Ruto and Mudavadi make their entry and 7.00 p.m sharp the show is on the road with Raila anchoring the show.<BR/><BR/>Such blatant manipulation of the media and kenyans only serve to reinforce the view that when Ruto said "wajipange" the other day, he knew exactly what he was talking. <BR/><BR/>ODM was never interested in this "mnyama" called serikali with any kikuyu in it. <BR/>While I do not condone people breaking promises, I dont there is anywhere in that accord that says PM is half the President. Kibaki is the head of state and government and Raila cannot send minions to him. <BR/><BR/>Kibaki paid him back by using Amb. Muthaura and this kind of games are sick to say the least.<BR/><BR/>Treat each other with respect that we had come to associate you with in the last few weeks. <BR/><BR/>Kenyans stop the hate, we can never have Lesotho and if remember correctly the vote was almost 50/50 to raila and kibaki. where do you take western kenya people who voted for kibaki?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-60531348542067100782008-04-07T23:16:00.000-07:002008-04-07T23:16:00.000-07:00PKW i wonder where you live. According to you Keny...PKW i wonder where you live. According to you Kenyan investors might have the luxury of waiting ten years to reap from their investments. With all due respect you are grossly out of touch with reality.<BR/><BR/>I wanted to buy safcom shares but now i will only take the 10k worth of down payment that i had already made, and that is only if i cheer up and manage to do that, otherwise i hope they wire back the money to my a/c once the IPO is over. I should have listened to Raila. At least he has never lied to wananchi. And this does not mean that i dont think the value will not ultimately appreciate, for me and my meagre earnings it is better safe than sorry. I cant knowingly throw away my money, as long as the problems are glaring hakuna haja.<BR/><BR/>As things are going i think now that the accord does not tell us what next if the coalition does not work, we should call back Annan to help us balance portfolios (which he has refused and is likely to refuse again) or be in charge of fresh elections, since at least both sides trust him.<BR/><BR/>Who will save Kenyans from this impunity, impunity, impunity. Annan has to do something for common mwananchi, he cant just abandon us into the Lion's (Kibaki's) den and count on the lion to not devour us. <BR/><BR/>GentlemanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-9741979997587700842008-04-07T16:59:00.000-07:002008-04-07T16:59:00.000-07:00Hi mind reader. The tome to invest in Zimbabwe has...Hi mind reader. The tome to invest in Zimbabwe has never been riper. Mugabe's struggles are the kicks of a dying animal. Look at the long of it. 10 years from now, Mugabe will probably be dead, and if the country avoids a civil war-and I think they are doing tat alright------things down there are so bad that there is almost no option for them than to get better. My $1 worth.Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-54238952361789429742008-04-07T16:53:00.000-07:002008-04-07T16:53:00.000-07:00pkwtry telling that 2 pple who made investments in...pkw<BR/><BR/>try telling that 2 pple who made investments in zimbabweAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-4767251259644446702008-04-07T16:50:00.000-07:002008-04-07T16:50:00.000-07:00Chris,The best time to invest is now when things a...Chris,<BR/>The best time to invest is now when things are shaky. When the country becomes stable-and I'm optimistic- the only direction to go is up.Proud Kikuyu Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04722115487090667454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48336059462497884142008-04-07T16:05:00.000-07:002008-04-07T16:05:00.000-07:00guns finally fall silentguns finally fall silentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74561437483786974022008-04-07T14:50:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:50:00.000-07:00I am surprised that Amb Muthaura had the audacity ...I am surprised that Amb Muthaura had the audacity to call Hon Odinga a liar. In his reply to Hon Odinga's letter that pointed out that PNU reneged on their Thursday agreement on potfolio balance here is Amb. Muthaura's response "5. In the meeting of April 3, contrary to your assertion, it was never agreed that ODM should nominate Ministers for the following portfolios: Local Government, Foreign Affairs, Transport, Energy and Cabinet Affairs."<BR/><BR/>Where is the truth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-77805124875032523622008-04-07T14:42:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:42:00.000-07:00I think someone here did not understand the standa...I think someone here did not understand the standard story n decided to get overly emotional without really getting the gist of what is cuttin. Its never too late to learn, i tell ya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-55666471799381036532008-04-07T14:41:00.001-07:002008-04-07T14:41:00.001-07:00Anonymous said... Sam Okello,who is stopping yo...Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> Sam Okello,<BR/>who is stopping you to follow kibaki?? you PNU supporter using a luo fake thread on here?? GO FOLLOW HIM DO NOT TELLS ON HERE WHAT TO DO? WE ARE ODMERS AND RAILA IS OUR LEADER- NO WONDER YOU FOLLOWED KIBAKI WHEN HE WAS SLAUGHTERING INNOCENT KENYANS GIVING ORDERS TO THE POLICE! WHO IS THE LESSER EVIL? <BR/>DOMO TOO IS WHAT YOUR FAKE LOU THREAD IS POSTING HERE!! GO TO MT.ELGON AND DIG OUT THOSE MASS GRAVES THAT THE ARMY ARE THROWING IN WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND ARMY HELICOPTERS FLYING HIGH AND DAMPING BODIES IN THE MT. ELGON FORESTS FOR ANIMALS TO FEAST ON- REMEMBER THIS ALL IS NOT LOST WE WILL PREVAIL!! GO FOLLOW YOUR KIBAKI - I RATHER FOLLOW THE LESSER EVIL OF THE TWO!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79830728946071569102008-04-07T14:41:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:41:00.000-07:00LESOTHO ndiyo dawa. Kikuyu warudishwe kwao.LESOTHO ndiyo dawa. Kikuyu warudishwe kwao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-39327949481862504512008-04-07T14:35:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:35:00.000-07:00Anonymous Anonymous said... April 6, 2008 D...Anonymous Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> April 6, 2008<BR/> Displaced Kenyans Live in Limbo as Aid Lags After Election Strife<BR/> By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN<BR/><BR/>they are lucky they are alive- many kids from non-kikuyu families never survived to wish for a school- they were buried without heads ?? they should count themselves lucky that they survives and are in camps - others are buried 6 fit under!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-70378063236134229482008-04-07T14:30:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:30:00.000-07:00KIBAKI OUT- THE OWNERS OF KENYA IN!! THE DEMOCRATI...KIBAKI OUT- THE OWNERS OF KENYA IN!! THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED 7MILLION KENYANS- KIKUYU CENTRAL NATION 1 MILLION THOSE ARE THE RIGHT NUMBERS?? SO ADD IDP'S MAYBE COMES TO 1.3 MILLOIN;:) we can deal with them no big deal- soon htier cars wll have no fuel in central lesotho !do they have donkeys there??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-46133807581523298732008-04-07T14:28:00.001-07:002008-04-07T14:28:00.001-07:00I believe the message in the standard story is not...I believe the message in the standard story is not that they've not been telling the truth BUT after the accord was signed, the difficulties that arose are being put equaly on Kibaki & Raila, YET it is Kibaki the media should be bashing and more so standard & ktn because all along they have not been mincing their words. i.e they should be bashing Kibaki ALONE & I am in complete agreemnt with that. so what is all the fuss?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-8764027223012172922008-04-07T14:28:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:28:00.000-07:00April 6, 2008Displaced Kenyans Live in Limbo as Ai...April 6, 2008<BR/>Displaced Kenyans Live in Limbo as Aid Lags After Election Strife <BR/>By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN<BR/>NAIROBI, Kenya — Clinton Masheti, 8 years old and all alone, sits on a wooden bench rolling snakes out of clay. When the men came and started burning down houses in his village, his parents ran away — without him. <BR/><BR/>He now lives in the Nairobi Children’s Home, a place with cheery paintings on the wall and lots of blank little faces. He is among thousands of children lost or abandoned during the fighting that followed Kenya’s disputed election in December. If Clinton’s parents are not found by August, he will be put up for adoption.<BR/><BR/>“My father was a farmer,” he said. <BR/><BR/>That seemed to be all he knew.<BR/><BR/>In another part of town not far away, Jane Wanjiru has been living in muddy uncertainty since January.<BR/><BR/>She and about 200 other displaced people are camping just up the road from one of Nairobi’s fanciest malls. Their tents and clotheslines are curious sights so close to the Mercedes-Benzes and mansions, a reminder in case anyone here needs one that the issue of displaced people is not isolated to the Rift Valley, where most of the election-related bloodshed was, but has crept into the capital, Nairobi. <BR/><BR/>Still, very little has been done about it. More than 300,000 people remain homeless, living in camps or staying temporarily with relatives, but top politicians have been preoccupied with haggling over cabinet posts and forming a coalition government.<BR/><BR/>Officials recently announced that the new government would include 40 ministries, a Kenyan record, and many people fear that the money for salaries, cars and staff for the bloated cabinet will eat into what the displaced people need. <BR/><BR/>Donors have pledged millions of dollars to build homes and resettle people, but most of that is in limbo. And now it is the rainy season. <BR/><BR/>Nearly every day, the skies crack open and the water gushes down. Tents collapse, latrines overflow, firewood gets soggy, food goes uncooked and diseases like malaria and the flu flourish. Many of the displaced people are farmers, and the same rains they would have prayed for, had they not been violently driven off their land, are now a curse. <BR/><BR/>Three women in a camp recently died from exposure to the cold and 5-month-old twins from pneumonia. <BR/><BR/>“The rains are my biggest fear,” said Naomi Shaban, Kenya’s minister of special programs, who oversees the displaced persons camps. “These people are living in tents, and these are not just showers, they are heavy rains. There is a lot of contamination, with children playing in the water. We anticipate health problems.”<BR/><BR/>Many displaced people in this nation of 37 million are worried about how long they can survive and feel abandoned by their government. Ms. Wanjiru, who voted for Mwai Kibaki, Kenya’s president, said she did not support him — or any other politician — anymore.<BR/><BR/>“All we get are words,” she said.<BR/><BR/>She spends her days washing the few clothes she has and sitting in a cracked plastic chair watching the cars go by. A mother of six with a seventh on the way, she said she did not even have the bus fare to go into town or check out the mall.<BR/><BR/>“I lost everything,” she said.<BR/><BR/>Ms. Shaban defended the president, saying he was very concerned about the plight of the displaced people and that helping them is a post-election priority. She said the government had already spent $11 million on food and medicine since January, though the distribution of supplies was sometimes delayed, because some of the people hanging around the displaced persons camps were “impostors” and it took time to verify who the real victims were. <BR/><BR/>The Kenyan government is asking donor nations, including the United States, to provide nearly $500 million to resettle people and rebuild the tens of thousands of burned down homes, businesses, public utilities and schools. <BR/><BR/>After the disputed election, supporters of the government and of the leading opposition party raged against each other. More than 1,000 people were killed, many quite brutally, and much of the fighting was along ethnic lines.<BR/><BR/>Ms. Shaban, like many other government officials, insisted that most of the displaced people would eventually go home.<BR/><BR/>“As the healing process goes on, more and more want to go back,” she said.<BR/><BR/>But many people are scared. Hundreds of thousands have already resettled in areas where their ethnic group dominates, because that is seen as the only way to guarantee safety. Just a few days ago, in late March, leaflets were circulated in several Rift Valley towns telling Kikuyus, Mr. Kibaki’s ethnic group, that if they returned, they would be killed.<BR/><BR/>“People are still bitter,” said Florence Muia, a Catholic nun who works with displaced people. “They have seen this violence before, and this time they are saying never again.”<BR/><BR/>Many of the displaced children, traumatized into near silence, simply have nothing to return to.<BR/><BR/>[b]Naomi and Joseph Nganga were abandoned by their father after a mob burned down their house in the Rift Valley and their mother died from a stomach sickness in a displaced persons camp. [/b] They are sister and brother, 9 and 10 years old, and live in the children’s home with about 80 others, including: Clinton, who speaks in whispers; a 3-year-old whom workers call Baby Joshua because they do not have any more information about him; and a cheerful 16-year-old named Millicent who has a baby of her own. <BR/><BR/>The boys wear V-neck sweaters and the girls plaid dresses. They play in bare concrete rooms and drink plastic mugs of tea for a snack.<BR/><BR/>When asked if he wanted to stay in the children’s home in Nairobi or go back to his village, Joseph’s voice dropped to a mumble.<BR/><BR/>“I just want to go to school,” he said. <BR/><BR/>His sister nodded next to him and then looked down at her cracked leather shoes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-53331826795667111132008-04-07T14:26:00.002-07:002008-04-07T14:26:00.002-07:00Anonymous said... Anonymous Anonymous said... ...Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> Anonymous Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> 1:29 dont be stupid.....I AM ODM DAMU!!!<BR/> i will not take it so tell us what exactly did nation read since you come on here fuming fire at standard newspape<BR/><BR/>HEY WE HEAD- SO COOL IT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID THEY ARE ODMERS:):) OR ELSE WE WILL SEND YOU TO LESOTHO CENTRAL TOO:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-5722905163325868072008-04-07T14:26:00.001-07:002008-04-07T14:26:00.001-07:00Anonymous said... Anonymous Anonymous said... ...Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> Anonymous Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> 1:29 dont be stupid.....I AM ODM DAMU!!!<BR/> i will not take it so tell us what exactly did nation read since you come on here fuming fire at standard newspape<BR/><BR/>HEY WE HEAD- SO COOL IT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID THEY ARE ODMERS:):) OR ELSE WE WILL SEND YOU TO LESOTHO CENTRAL TOO:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47434365510574891352008-04-07T14:26:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:26:00.000-07:00After watching Uhuru on KTN ....Enough is enough, ...After watching Uhuru on KTN ....<BR/><BR/>Enough is enough, NEW ELECTIONS NOW !!!!!Philip Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08109331288602509084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-18148661732685626112008-04-07T14:25:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:25:00.000-07:00Chris your post is laughable so very one sided but...Chris your post is laughable so very one sided but what can we expect( was there only 1 sms comment during the broadcast) I think the problem is that ODM is slowly becoming irrelevant in the eyes of PNU and probably even some of the people, the Govt is Kibaki's the power is Kibaki's like it or hate it that is the state of the nation and Kenyans will just move on the era of mass action is over let RAo become leader of opposition and go back to the drawing board for 2012 anything else will be political suicide he has obviously been out manouvered by PNU and Kibaki and what you should be asking is why did nobody see this coming an seal the loopholesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-26742955600217094012008-04-07T14:21:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:21:00.000-07:00LESOTHO ndiyo dawa ya kenyaLESOTHO ndiyo dawa ya kenyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-74568224305540450442008-04-07T14:19:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:19:00.000-07:002:14 pm you own standard? Take your drama elsewher...2:14 pm you own standard? Take your drama elsewhereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-44610563143644783802008-04-07T14:17:00.000-07:002008-04-07T14:17:00.000-07:002:14, WHO CARES...?2:14, WHO CARES...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com