tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post2334993379656407781..comments2024-03-28T17:52:49.942-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Is There Any Link Between MP Mugabe Were’s Killing and the Recent Reshuffle in the Kenya Police?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-44230273345575792692008-01-31T09:57:00.000-08:002008-01-31T09:57:00.000-08:00U guys talk about Kenyans being fed up with Kibaki...U guys talk about Kenyans being fed up with Kibaki! Which kenyans? the riots are in Kisumu and Kibera. Thats hardly a representation of Kenya as a whole. The middle class seems quiet. people just want to get on with their life. I haven't heard Buru,karen, or even Langata residents rioting. Just poor uneducated asses paid to kill each other. All fracas needs to be quashed kabisa! kenyans will only listen to teargas or bullets. Let them rain on these bastards. A few thao people cant hold the whole country hostage.ILJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979481807732789937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-28407761370257443172008-01-31T09:40:00.000-08:002008-01-31T09:40:00.000-08:00The Rumour mill is at work.The Rumour mill is at work.ILJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979481807732789937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-14908282105059901072008-01-31T02:56:00.000-08:002008-01-31T02:56:00.000-08:00if the provincial admin is in their hands,the stat...if the provincial admin is in their hands,the state intelligence organ too,the millitary and so on and so forth.........the only thing that is NOT within their grasp is the KENYAN VOTE.But that have they stollen as well.OH MY! with what weapon are you left that you can fight O' THOU MORTAL ORDINARY MWANANCHI and by the way news just reaching me "another one bites the dust"-ODM-RIFT VALLEY.THIS IS VERY VERY SAD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40275110681038308132008-01-31T02:13:00.000-08:002008-01-31T02:13:00.000-08:00It is very unfortunate that we have run out of tim...It is very unfortunate that we have run out of time.We have run out of time to uproot a DICTATORIAL regime and all we like sheep have been hoodwinked and are now being led to the SLAUGHTER and we CANNOT as much as mumble a protest.For those who are still protesting KIBAKISTAN/KYUKISTAN innocence,i would only say this:it appears as if the children of CEASAR are now pitted against the children of GOD,in a brutal and bloody battle concerning a STATE theft.Let us see if the weapons that the children of CEASAR have fashioned will prosper against the children of GOD.By making WERE a MATYR,the buffoon team has just FAANNED the movement's revolutionary FIRES.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-23572552242924436142008-01-30T10:11:00.000-08:002008-01-30T10:11:00.000-08:00Oh whatever as usual there are anti kibaki people ...Oh whatever as usual there are anti kibaki people who try but fail to truly explain his faults. None of them are great! Raila used ethnic cards, you only need to read the poll strategy to see that they maximised on Moi's policy, and then stated that Kikuyu's are the wealthiest community and steal. First of all the asians own the biggest assets and wealth in Kenya. Secondly of the kyuks that are rich, a large majority are from families that were a key part of Kenyatta's day, and that they are a small minority of kyuks. Theory even shows that this runs deeper than just ethnicity, it is a post colonial system that we inherited from the British which happened to have more highly skilled kyuks because they formed a large majority of the Africans in lower level administration. Unfortunately we also had Kenyatta who obviously favoured the kyuks, but Moi pretty much reversed that after 1982 and since then kyuks have knowingly been marginalised. Kibaki has only made the mistake of allowing Raila to do what Odinga attempted in Kenyatta days, to topple the government forcefully. This aint new, its a full cycle, and kenyans have to rise above game theory politics and start taking charge of the peace process. I dont defend kyuks, but neither do I condemn a whole community for the misgivings of a few. Those who do that then are not Kenyan. They should go to somalia and live in a highly fragmented countryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48473857145991068702008-01-30T02:25:00.000-08:002008-01-30T02:25:00.000-08:00The Kibakinistas should read the writing on the wa...The Kibakinistas should read the writing on the wall. Kenyans are fed up with people who cause problems for Kenyans. We are Kenyans first before anything else. What is this thing called "tribe"? forgive me for asking a foolish question. Our diversity is what brings us together- and we celebrate in unison when our runners win marathons and make us fell the proud Kenyans we are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42038563880871937522008-01-29T22:27:00.000-08:002008-01-29T22:27:00.000-08:00Anon: 9:49 Do you even believe the words u have wr...Anon: 9:49 Do you even believe the words u have written? Pls read again your comment...Timing is important in any ventureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-30657230955936310072008-01-29T21:49:00.000-08:002008-01-29T21:49:00.000-08:00Kibaki is Raila's frankenstein and only he can put...Kibaki is Raila's frankenstein and only he can put him down wacha wamenyane.I think Mugabe must have fallen out of favor with his collegues turned enemies at city hall or possibly he took money during the speaker vote but was unable to repay the deadly mt Kenya mafia, his italian connection and export business does not help in reducing the undending list of conspiracy theories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-69277564707371863022008-01-29T16:34:00.000-08:002008-01-29T16:34:00.000-08:00it`s interesting to see Kenya going down bit by bi...it`s interesting to see Kenya going down bit by bit.<BR/>Time to preach peace is ripe, time to address justice is now and time to face the facts is today. Majority of people have been murdered have no idea what killed them.<BR/><BR/>Incitements and wild allegations against tribes should stop and please Kenyans are enlightened to realise that what they are doing to each other is dangerous and these wounds may never heal.<BR/><BR/>Allegations of land allocations, tribal differences and job appointments should be prioritized and addressed immidiately.<BR/><BR/>These are the evils that have been boiling for years. <BR/><BR/>I believe the current wave of violence was premeditated by politicians across the country and what we are seeing now is a backlash of promises not kept.<BR/><BR/>Politicians should be weighing their words when addressing the public and be held responsible for utterances that incite and provoke and address tribalism.<BR/><BR/>Kenya needs a New breed of leaders.<BR/><BR/>People who consider themselves Kenyans. Period.!<BR/><BR/>"Ukabira ndio utamaliza nchi yetu Kenya"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79803510689639824842008-01-29T14:51:00.000-08:002008-01-29T14:51:00.000-08:00So to all - what are YOU going to do? Lie back and...So to all - what are YOU going to do? Lie back and take everything?! <BR/><BR/>Accept the hatred, violence, greed, corruption, ...<BR/><BR/>KAWAIDA.<BR/><BR/>Time to exercise your voice for peace and prosperity by advocating unity, calmly! Remember, each of us has contributed to where Kenya is today. So what are you going to do about tomorrow to create peace?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-29947157308288590552008-01-29T10:56:00.000-08:002008-01-29T10:56:00.000-08:00abdi noor...i agree with you. it can only get wors...abdi noor...i agree with you. it can only get worse before kenyans get out of their stuporAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-40114213479281743952008-01-29T09:14:00.000-08:002008-01-29T09:14:00.000-08:00Chris,You have forgetten one thing. Whereever ODM ...Chris,<BR/><BR/>You have forgetten one thing. Whereever ODM people were massacred like in Kisumu, Kakamega, Malaba, Bungoma, Eldoret, Kericho, Malindi, etc, you will realise one thing: either the DC/PC must be a Kikuyu or the OCS/OCPD/PPO must be a Kyuk as well. Just do a research and you will see 100% truth. Kikuyustan believes that it can sustain itself that way, ask me, I'm a Somali and I know how and where did my ccousins (in Somalia) go down the drain. It started from a rigged election, violence follows, military coup follows, more violence, brute rule, tribalism (KIkyustan type) follows, cessation starts, ckan wars begin, ....and then the Nation comes tumbling down. For your information, Somalis are one million times better than Kenyans because there are many things that unite them like language, race and religion. As much as they fought each other, they helped each other at the same time and no ONE was killed inside a mosque or burnt. If Kenyans can do this to each other before war proper (battle royale) starts, you can imagine what will follow. Anyway, I'm a Kenyan and I want peace and stability, but haki yangu pia. Nimepiga kura and Kibaki ameiba, arudishe haki yangu. (Amani hayapatikani ila kwa ncha ya upanga).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16067642186145127682008-01-29T08:46:00.000-08:002008-01-29T08:46:00.000-08:00Comment Posted 01/22/08"In the interim I would sug...Comment Posted 01/22/08<BR/>"In the interim I would suggest Pentagon members and vocal MPs take their personal security seriously."<BR/><BR/>Change to read "....and ALL ODM MPs"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-35054247806438502552008-01-29T08:42:00.000-08:002008-01-29T08:42:00.000-08:00Chris,It is amazing how you always have informatio...Chris,<BR/>It is amazing how you always have information that even the intelligence do not have. I, therefore think you are in the wrong business. With all your reliable sources, you ahould be out there solving all the crimes against humanity instead of hiding behind a blog, inciting others by writing half truths.<BR/>Has it ever occurred to you that these things are in the hands of the opposition. But again, you are one of them. I hope whatever you get from Raila is worth the many lives that have been lost. One day, the truth will come out and we will be here, and all who played a part in this mess, including you with your pathetic blog, pay big time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-35268042959452485112008-01-29T07:42:00.000-08:002008-01-29T07:42:00.000-08:00What an awesome peace of article,Chris. It has an ...What an awesome peace of article,Chris. It has an indepth coverage of the recent reshuffle and there is no doubt that it tells alot about the next moves of Kifucky's illegitimate government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-21689161666964077412008-01-29T07:39:00.000-08:002008-01-29T07:39:00.000-08:00THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER SEATING ARRANGEMENTS!!!!!!!...THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER SEATING ARRANGEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>"The talks began 90 minutes late, after an argument over seating arrangements."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Former UN chief Kofi Annan has begun a new push to broker a deal between the Kenyan government and opposition, in an attempt to end spiralling violence. <BR/>Mr Annan opened talks with President Mwai Kibaki and opposition leader Raila Odinga, who says Mr Kibaki robbed him of victory in December's polls. <BR/><BR/>Mr Annan will present the leaders with a "route-map" for talks, which correspondents say may last weeks. <BR/><BR/>The talks came as the death of an opposition MP sparked fresh violence. <BR/><BR/>At least seven people were killed on Tuesday in the capital, Nairobi, after Mugabe Were, from Mr Odinga's ODM party, apparently died in violence triggered by last month's disputed elections. <BR/><BR/><BR/>See where main ethnic groups are distributed in Kenya<BR/>Meanwhile towns in the Rift Valley also witnessed outbreaks of inter-ethnic fighting. <BR/><BR/>Army helicopters fired tear gas and rubber bullets at a mob of ethnic Kikuyus attacking Luo refugees trying to flee the town of Naivasha. <BR/><BR/>Four-week target <BR/><BR/><BR/>Opening the talks, Mr Annan said: "There is only one Kenya. We all have multiple identities but I hope you see yourselves as Kenyans first." <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/><BR/>'People are killing each other'<BR/>Kenya's deep rifts<BR/>Press rails at politicians <BR/>He warned that the crisis was having a "profound and negative impact" on the country and urged the two leaders to take the talks seriously or risk losing aid. <BR/><BR/>He said he believed that short-term political issues could be resolved within four weeks, although more in-depth talks could take as long as a year. <BR/><BR/>The talks began 90 minutes late, after an argument over seating arrangements. <BR/><BR/>Speaking after Mr Annan, Mr Odinga stressed that the resolution of the "deeply flawed" results of the presidential elections needed "most urgent attention". <BR/><BR/>"While our appeal for peace is uncompromising and unconditional, it will have effective meaning if we pledge today that everything will be done to speedily address this specific dispute," he said. <BR/><BR/>President Kibaki said he strongly condemned incidents of violence, and would "implement stern measures" against "those who disrupt the peace". <BR/><BR/>He pledged his support to the "process of national dialogue", pledged to provide more police stations and a fund to help victims of the violence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-58156613953839137032008-01-29T07:14:00.000-08:002008-01-29T07:14:00.000-08:00This is excellentinvestigative Journalism!Wow! Gre...This is excellentinvestigative Journalism!Wow! Great work brother and I am hoping that someone in the mainstream media picks this up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-86496387954862504032008-01-29T06:12:00.000-08:002008-01-29T06:12:00.000-08:00Taabu..........you are a devil. You have a heart o...Taabu..........you are a devil. You have a heart of a cat.if you are talking like that because you are a kikuyu and you dont care what happens to your fellow kenyan luo or any other may you not leave to see tomorrow.<BR/><BR/>Yes people died in Eldoret but I dont think Were was involved.<BR/><BR/>You surely must be a man eater Mungiki.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-3606837756171935002008-01-29T05:35:00.000-08:002008-01-29T05:35:00.000-08:00Chris, the ORGRE is coming home and his kids will ...Chris, the ORGRE is coming home and his kids will soon be all in the tummy. You don't have to be a crimilogist nor conspiracy theorist to join the dots. Disguised deception is mutating from its economic stable and soon it will all over. What is a single life to be sacrificed if that will help distabilize voting bungeni! You guess right Embakassi has its owners from Muranga and Were was a marked man from day one. <BR/><BR/>Well they can generate the political and human heat all they want but the tide is unstoppable. Faint hearts have no space and Kenyans have reached a point of no return. It is not being insensitive but the dead will be our collaterate - death of honour if you so wish. <BR/><BR/>Sample deception: Death is church is more gruesome than locking 19 muothers and kids and roasting them alive. Give me another one please.Taabuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04559980653513330275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-66412594817772837292008-01-29T05:23:00.000-08:002008-01-29T05:23:00.000-08:00This just got incredibly sickening. I never though...This just got incredibly sickening. I never thought we would sink so slow. This is the price we pay for taking our peaceful country for granted. I have said it before and I will say it again, where are our leaders!!! This is a situation which calls for Kibaki, Raila, Ruto and every MP to urge for peace and calm. Forget about who stole the election - at this rate, the President will have no country to govern. Statesmen need to rise above this and make a forceful push for peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-84910658679760877042008-01-29T04:27:00.000-08:002008-01-29T04:27:00.000-08:00HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO WRITE THIS BWANA. ARE ...HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO WRITE THIS BWANA. ARE YO HAVING A PROBLEMs WITH ENGLIS.....I was wondering how long it would take you to payuka. My predictions were right you are definately a crowd pleaser. keep on doing the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-66241609410327943552008-01-29T04:25:00.000-08:002008-01-29T04:25:00.000-08:00I gave up on Kenya when we started killing each ot...I gave up on Kenya when we started killing each other like goats forgetting we existed together for all those years as one.<BR/>Lessons from Rwanda, Somali and Sudan don't seem to be sinking into our conscious and we are looking at the small picture instead of the bigger outcomes.<BR/><BR/>The Kenyan Police have never handled anything professionally and Were's death will end up unsolved. As much as Kimaiyo put professionalism into the force, its a bit discouraging to see him leak national secrets to politicians. He should have played it safe to ensure the safety of the nation.<BR/><BR/>Kimaiyo and Ali are to blame for some of the happenings. Police and army should never be partisan and should uphold the law regardless of who's ruling. They swear to protect the nation and not politicians. Lets all hope we can have an amicable end to all this craziness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-42581945851638932872008-01-29T04:22:00.000-08:002008-01-29T04:22:00.000-08:00The way MP Mugabe Were was killed, reminds me of t...The way MP Mugabe Were was killed, reminds me of the way the Investigating Officer of the Ouko Inquiry was killed. He had just come back from an important meeting with the Sunguh-Committee.<BR/><BR/>Also here some people waited for him in front of his gate and shot him.<BR/><BR/>It then came out (before being killed, his bodyguard had shot one of the killers) that this was one of some prisoners sentenced for lifetime but who had 'escaped' under questionable circumstances just some days before .... they must have been told whom to kill and how.<BR/><BR/>You remember that just a few weeks ago some criminals have been able to escape from jail and that it was immediately rumoured that this was done on purpose for them to organize some criminal and maybe political killings.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that this is the case now and that they are involved. They do not need to steal and rob anything because they have been paid before by the people giving them orders. <BR/><BR/>There is no other explanation since any ordinary killers would have taken the money, phones and even the car.<BR/><BR/>I fear that this is not the end. There will be more on the list to be eliminated.<BR/><BR/>Kenya is in real deep trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-83194156227799851312008-01-29T04:18:00.000-08:002008-01-29T04:18:00.000-08:00"UNLESS WE RISE ABOVE TRIBES". You need to start w..."UNLESS WE RISE ABOVE TRIBES". <BR/>You need to start with the man in the mirror Chris. This is clearly anti-Kikuyuism blog. <BR/><BR/>The NMG probably is biased. What I dont understand however, is why you assume that their pro-establishment stance is based on the Kikuyuness of their MD. It could be that he has financial interests tied to Kibakis regime....OR it could be that he genuinely believes in the principles espoused by Kibaki....OR he could just be an idiot. Either way, u need to move on from the anti-KIkuyu platform. All it does is force Kikuyus to close ranks for fear of what folk like you do could do to ALL of us (whatever our individual ideologies) if we stood back and let you. <BR/><BR/>Much love from a very Kikuyu Sister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-39012515088595751552008-01-29T04:11:00.000-08:002008-01-29T04:11:00.000-08:00Wow!IF all you said were true, then I can conclude...Wow!<BR/>IF all you said were true, then I can conclude that Kenya is NO MORE. My biggest worry has been has been what will happen 2moro or the day after? if trully we have a "president" who was "democratically" elected then why can't he do something or atleast utter just a word to show that he is in charge. What happenned with the "Pumbafus" of these world? I fear that the Killling of Were had ignited a flame that would never be put out unless someone sobers up and steps down gracefully. This I say because I like many Kenyans see it differently from what the police is suggesting. Its a political assasination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com