tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post2233642224134641689..comments2024-03-28T17:52:49.942-07:00Comments on You Missed This: Open letter to Phil Of KumekuchaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-36836821717654961422009-02-15T08:59:00.000-08:002009-02-15T08:59:00.000-08:00Kenyans are tired of this kikuyu tricks how stupid...Kenyans are tired of this kikuyu tricks how stupid do this people think we kenyans are,this people are busy stealing from the country while people in Turkana are dying of hunger,kibaki is busy extending his roots all over the country knowing that come 2012 a kikuyu must stay on,this will not happen and God loves us,we love minister and the prime minister keep fighting to save our,this people who have culture they are not patriotic enough to know that when you steal from the granary you are aloser.By the way Martha karua realy disgusts me,where was she when kibaki was stealing from kenyans wasn't she amongg the people at statehouse,so why pretend now,leave Rutto alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-76935187821295670662009-02-11T23:37:00.000-08:002009-02-11T23:37:00.000-08:00About the fuel saga, people need to know that the ...About the fuel saga, people need to know that the fuel in question belonged to triton but they had purchased it from the middle east with money provided by both international and local financiers. Triton sold "its" fuel to another oil company in kenya but failed to repay its financiers. This is all there is to this saga.<BR/><BR/>Phil, It is kenyatta (not kibs) who gave moi the vp's official residence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-38650992304316835722009-02-11T06:43:00.000-08:002009-02-11T06:43:00.000-08:00Phil,U r a social worker in Kibera, why do you jus...Phil,<BR/><BR/>U r a social worker in Kibera, why do you just stick to your social work and spare us your idiocy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-26481707217101756422009-02-11T06:29:00.000-08:002009-02-11T06:29:00.000-08:00Mwarang'etheYou are right. leaders are elected to ...Mwarang'ethe<BR/><BR/>You are right. leaders are elected to lead and not make excuses. It is however grossly unfair to blame leaders for mistakes that is not of their making and at the same time ignore the efforts they are putting in despite of the shortage of tools of trade!<BR/><BR/>I received your mail and enjoyed reading your article 'The Ugali Saga : A better Perspective;' however me thinks that it is more of culture than policy. all the same, brilliant ideas, and you post them here on Kumekucha to enlighten some of our readers.<BR/><BR/>Will keep in touch here and in the mailbox. Many thanks.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006931396497105956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89848929724187317062009-02-11T06:26:00.000-08:002009-02-11T06:26:00.000-08:00Mama, you are a good commentator and you should ne...Mama, you are a good commentator and you should never feel the need to defend yourself. You are better than these so-called men. You represent what I call Girl Power!<BR/><BR/>PS.Just keep off UrXlnc!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-89505646047138774842009-02-11T06:11:00.000-08:002009-02-11T06:11:00.000-08:00My comment on Kalonzo was not so much about the pe...My comment on Kalonzo was not so much about the person as it was about you equating Kalonzo's behaviour with Raila's. <BR/><BR/>Just because Kalonzo thinks its okay to steal public money by accepting palatial mansions and paying his wife from public coffers......Raila should follow suit? Is it a competition on who can waste the most public resources? That is my point! I don't care so much about what others do but when the party I voted for gets involved in such practices, then I have reason to scream and shout as a 'misguided blogger.' I still don't understand to whom the PM's office is a 'significant investment'.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, I don't care if Raila resigns or not, my point was brought on by your assertion that we are unappreciative of him, since he has worked 'selflessly, without pay' for the entire duration of the GCG. My point was simply this, no one asked him to, if he's tired, tell him to go home.Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288215409363459147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-17883672824768563962009-02-11T05:49:00.000-08:002009-02-11T05:49:00.000-08:00Phil said:Not at all. ODM has only been in governm...Phil said:<BR/><BR/>Not at all. ODM has only been in government for less than year and not the 45 years you allude to. Additionally, there is a lot more that encompasses an overseas trip by a delegation of the Prime Minister, Deputy prime Minster and several cabinet ministers. I think that questions regarding the last 45 years should be directed to Kibaki who has been in government most of his adult life, save for the time he pretended to have defected to opposition in the 90s and to a lesser extent Kalonzo musyoka who has been there for odd 20 years.<BR/><BR/>Our views:<BR/><BR/>Firstly, we have noted the email. Since there seems there are some policy changes on the way, we will wiat for them. Thereafter, we shall comment.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, the question is, why does someone stand to be the mp or the president of a nation? From where we stand, one does so, as to provide leadership. <BR/><BR/>However, it seems to you that, in Kenya, a leader is elected so as to take trips abroad to learn how to solve the nation's problems. How laughable. Why the hell would one seek to represent his/her people if he/she does not know how to solve their problems?<BR/><BR/>It is true that ODM has been in the govt. for only one year. However, is it not right to say that ODM went into the govt. so as to solve the problems facing Kenya? If that is correct, then, the ODM must have done its homework to come up with realistic soultions. If that is not the case, then, ODM has no business pretending to be the solution.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-1399377346726897782009-02-11T05:08:00.000-08:002009-02-11T05:08:00.000-08:00Phil,You need to give us a fucking break!Go away a...Phil,<BR/><BR/>You need to give us a fucking break!<BR/><BR/>Go away and never come back you Moron!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-79895174557966691872009-02-11T05:05:00.000-08:002009-02-11T05:05:00.000-08:00Blogger Mwarang'ethe said...Are you telling us tha...<I>Blogger Mwarang'ethe said...<BR/>Are you telling us that the PM and his ministers do not know what need to be done after 45 years, so that they must burn our money to learn abroad?</I><BR/><BR/>Not at all. ODM has only been in government for less than year and not the 45 years you allude to. Additionally, there is a lot more that encompasses an overseas trip by a delegation of the Prime Minister, Deputy prime Minster and several cabinet ministers. I think that questions regarding the last 45 years should be directed to Kibaki who has been in government most of his adult life, save for the time he pretended to have defected to opposition in the 90s and to a lesser extent Kalonzo musyoka who has been there for odd 20 years.<BR/><BR/>Policy is being changed. Some of these things require parliamentary approval and even presidential assent. You will soon see what the ODM backed agricultural minister has been up to. Of course we welcome ideas. Send to: doila2002atyahoodotcom<BR/><BR/>Blogger Mama, I honestly do not understand what you are ON about. I have made my points clear in yesterday’s post. Perhaps you could care to read those and help you friend Chris figure out the answers? If you do not understand what goes on in government offices, then I really sympathize with you. The VPs residence has been under construction for the last few years and the cost has risen from a budgeted 50m to nearly 300m presently. I am not mentioning kalonzo as a person but trying to bring to your attention that whereas Kibaki decided to giveaway the official VPs residence to a retiring President Moi, Kenyan tax payers are being forced to pay nearly half a billion shillings to build a palace for the VP. Mind you, at the time the project was approved, kalonzo was an opposition leader and he was amongst those who were critical of the same. So check my words again, it is not about the person but the expense on public funds, which was in response to the query on the PM’s Office.<BR/><BR/>If Raila benefited solely on the basis of protest of votes, then I live in a different country and I certainly have no idea what it involves campaigning and defeating a ruling party in Africa. I will not argue about this further.<BR/><BR/>Why should Raila resign? Because Mama and Chris said so? Give me a f**cking break. Please re-read the NARA and let you understand why Raila is Pm in the first place. This is a constitutional office and not an institution to be made fun of by misguided bloggers. And like I said before just proceed with your ODM bashing, we know elections are coming, and those of you with fresh ideas, I wish you all the best.<BR/><BR/>By the way Chris, I am awaiting your response so I may engage you further. I am particularly keen to learn why Mboya is considered the greatest politician of all time. I am waiting for you to trash the work of the late doyen of opposition politics in Kenya – JOO. Bring it on.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006931396497105956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-63996803142785480612009-02-11T04:54:00.000-08:002009-02-11T04:54:00.000-08:00Phil belongs to hell!! Ghasia!!Phil belongs to hell!! Ghasia!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-27916770137724009852009-02-11T03:55:00.000-08:002009-02-11T03:55:00.000-08:00Guys,When we are with Vikii in bed most nights he ...Guys,<BR/><BR/>When we are with Vikii in bed most nights he talks very differently from the gibberish I c him posting here. I think my man just loves a good debate and he likes to do it from the seemingly weaker side.<BR/><BR/>YES he is hot. But he is mine. Eat your hearts out girls. Muta-do?<BR/><BR/>....Vikii's mistressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-12245160281910207892009-02-11T03:17:00.000-08:002009-02-11T03:17:00.000-08:00Chris,This is the third time you have reprimanded ...Chris,<BR/><BR/>This is the third time you have reprimanded Phil. The last time if I remember was something to do with "voteless Diasporans", the second time was to do with Tom Mboya and now Ruto. This man will continue to piss you until you kiss him goodbye. He is no good to Kumekucha, in fact he will never stop Raila worship no matter what. And he is also very disobedient to his god, when Raila declared a mandatory circumcision, he never went for it. <BR/><BR/>Phil's MistressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-66772327302976248152009-02-11T02:57:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:57:00.000-08:00Mama, Thank you for your comments. You are such a ...Mama, Thank you for your comments. You are such a joy to read and your points are very sober and articulate. We need people like you, however I don't always agree with you when you start praising that sicko called UrXlnc - he is not what you think he is, he is a hypocrite disguised as a noble character but he is PURE evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-19440091696441844932009-02-11T02:44:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:44:00.000-08:00By the way Phil, I forgot, you allege that Ruto ha...By the way Phil, I forgot, you allege that Ruto has not been adjudged guilty by any court of law for the maize scandal (not that I am saying he is guilty).<BR/><BR/>Then in that same vein if we apply your reasoning, then we may say Kibaki is not guilty of election theft, Moi was not guilty of any crimes, Saitoti was innocent of Goldenberg and Kimunya of Grand Regency! No one has adjudged them guilty.Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288215409363459147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-16934307781439632822009-02-11T02:40:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:40:00.000-08:00Do you know what is Today In History? Freedom for ...Do you know what is Today In History? <BR/>Freedom for Nelson Mandela after 27years in prison - 11 Feb 1990.<BR/><BR/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/11/newsid_2539000/2539947.stmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-88703640905933137252009-02-11T02:32:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:32:00.000-08:00Folks,I wouldn't waste my time with a moron like P...Folks,<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't waste my time with a moron like Phil who is blinded by overgrown foreskin and matumbo eating.<BR/><BR/>Lets discuss more important matters than commentetors here, like fake Vikii said, Phil is entitiled to his opinions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-38595859117723196012009-02-11T02:17:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:17:00.000-08:00Phil,First and foremost, I am not hiding under Chr...Phil,<BR/><BR/>First and foremost, I am not hiding under Chris' pen. When I read this blog, I will usually address the person who posted and very rarely do I address commentators, unless I am in total agreement with their sentiments. <BR/><BR/>Now to the matter at hand, I do not know whether Ruto is guilty, I would like to see the evidence implicating him in the maize scandal for me to judge him. However, just because he has not been proven guilty does not mean he is innocent either, that is why we have Khalwale and Company to probe these things in their parliamentary committees. This morning I heard Khalwale talking about Ruto and he raised some very important issues. The first one is, people from his office used their authority and issued notes to the NCPB to release maize to be sold by whoever was selling it! <BR/><BR/>Secondly, the Public Accounts Committee led by Khalwale, conducted investigations and foud that this restructuring you are talking about was nothing more than a mere public relations exercise. It turns out that those who were told to go home are those who were waiting to retire this year. Ruto says they have gone home yet evidence to the contrary shows that these people have not been given any dismissal letters, they are just waiting around to receive their dues from the government when the time comes.<BR/><BR/>Thirdly, one of Ruto's new appointees is one Mr. Mohammed Islam Ali. Mr Ali is one of the directors of Mombasa Maize Millers , it does not take an brain surgeon to see there's a real conflict of interest there. You just don't appoint an interested party to such a board.<BR/> <BR/>When people are saying Ruto should step down, it is not because he is guilty and we want him to go, but we want to verify the allegations being peddled against him without his interference.<BR/><BR/>Moving on to the acquisition of Shell/BP House by the Prime Minister, please enlighten me on the 'significance of such an investment' because honestly I don't see! In my opinion, it is a total waste of money because there is nothing wrong with where he operates from currently. BTW, being a former ODM member, there was a time the name of Raila was not to be mentioned in the same breath as that of some of these people you are mentioning Phil. Now you want us to equate the prime minister's actions with people like Kalooser? Why are you contrasting Raila's office purchase with Kalooser's house? As far as I am concerned, Kalonzo is a non-issue, not worth mentioning and should thus not be compared to RAO, the fact that you actually are, tells you how fast Raila has sunk!<BR/><BR/>The Kenya We Want Conference, was a brainchild of non other than Raila Odinga, please ask him why, the suspects of Kroll/Anglo-Leasing/Goldenberg and what not were doing at the conference. Please don't blame anyone else for that one. <BR/><BR/>I support Chris' assertion that many Kenyans did not vote for Raila because they love him very much. After five years of Kibaki rule ladden with nepotism, tribalism, corruption, impunity, fraud, deception, arrogance, name-calling and what not it was clear they were going to look for someone else to vote for! Raila Odinga was the obvious choice for most Kenyans. Raila Odinga should know, the same reasons that were used to vote for Kibaki in 2002 as opposed to Moi's project were used on him in 2007. It is not like we all of a sudden acquired love in 2002 for 'the perennial loser Kibaki' we were simply voting against political dynasties.<BR/><BR/>Things I have learnt from your comment:<BR/><BR/>1) Raila Odinga has selflessly worked for us without pay since the formation of the GCG government (tell him to resign).<BR/><BR/>2)ODM ministers are hardworking! (no comment)Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00288215409363459147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-47726119733050893822009-02-11T02:13:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:13:00.000-08:00Mwarang'ethe saysCan Raila be a MAN like Camillus?...Mwarang'ethe says<BR/><BR/><I>Can Raila be a MAN like Camillus? Thats the question facing him. We think 45 years of endless talk is too much. Let us see the actions NOW</I><BR/><BR/>Spot on! I could not have said it any better!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392614056876577737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-48252746671821830342009-02-11T02:05:00.001-08:002009-02-11T02:05:00.001-08:00I have never felt the need to defend Phil, but Phi...I have never felt the need to defend Phil, but Phil has the right to opinion regardless whether he is right or not.<BR/><BR/>Phil, I am with you my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-21071964212836628842009-02-11T02:05:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:05:00.000-08:00Phil, let me remind you what Kenya needs, and what...Phil, let me remind you what Kenya needs, and what it expects from the PM.<BR/><BR/>When Rome was besieged by the Gauls, as the legend tells us, the Romans had no choice but to purchase immunity with gold. <BR/><BR/>And, they were in the act of weighing it, when Camillus appeared on the scene and threw his sword into the scales in place of the ransom, and declared that the Romans should not purchase peace, but, would win it with the sword. <BR/><BR/>This act of daring and prompt decision so aroused the Romans that they triumphantly swept from their sacred soil the enemy of their peace. <BR/><BR/>Can Raila be a MAN like Camillus? Thats the question facing him. We think 45 years of endless talk is too much. Let us see the actions NOW.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-15529836643450925422009-02-11T02:01:00.000-08:002009-02-11T02:01:00.000-08:00Great posting, Chris. For the first time, you hit ...Great posting, Chris. For the first time, you hit nail on head and rose above partisan tribal interests. <BR/><BR/>Kenyans continue suffering, languishing in poverty and dying yet the tribal leaders they stick the necks for and adore live and eat like kings and queens.<BR/><BR/>The tribal leaders are so selfish and will not share even a dropping grain with the poor subjects who put them in high offices.<BR/><BR/>To hell with ODM, PNU, ODM Kenya and all other tribal outfits. Kenyan leadership led by Kibaki and Raila is inept and visionless and it should be thrown out of office - even if by MASS REVOLUTION.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-77298009780007333492009-02-11T01:55:00.000-08:002009-02-11T01:55:00.000-08:00For those following kumekucha discussions on daily...For those following kumekucha discussions on daily basis you could have realised that chris has emptied his basket as concerns real topics. Ones he is dreaming his wierd dreams then he excuses himself, next time he introduces his attack on phil, next time it will be on vicky et al as the blog fades out.<BR/> This attack was but a desperate attempt to get inside info from Phil. Well Phil don't pour to much just chill out. Chris needs to do his homework properly and if he is short on this do the humble thing that he asks Ruto to do call it quits.<BR/> By the way on matters corruption we should be all united as kenyans and realise its not ODM or PNU money that was stolen but our moneis. And anyone who does the same should go home period.<BR/> By kanooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-46924970918316886352009-02-11T01:52:00.000-08:002009-02-11T01:52:00.000-08:00Phil said:... and also from the various overseas t...Phil said:<BR/><BR/>... and also from the various overseas trips that the PM has made to other countries that have faced and overcome similar food shortage problems as we have now.<BR/><BR/>Our views:<BR/><BR/>With due respect, this is utter utter nonsense. Are you telling us that the PM and his ministers do not know what need to be done after 45 years, so that they must burn our money to learn abroad?<BR/><BR/>Let me challenge you now. <BR/><BR/>If you remember, we sent you an article on the question of maize and the need to change policy. We are yet to receive any feedback.<BR/><BR/><BR/>On the question of agriculture, we can provide a very cheap and homegrown solution to the issue of famine in Kenya. If the PM is interested, let us know.Mwarang'ethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751879277752081774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-56269805616866552322009-02-11T01:33:00.000-08:002009-02-11T01:33:00.000-08:00Chris:It good to see that you can also call a spad...Chris:<BR/><BR/>It good to see that you can also call a spade a spade regardless of whether it is a PNU or an ODM spade. Your mistake is to assume that since Phil appears intelligent, he is equally endowed with reason. No, he is not.<BR/><BR/>Phil is intelligent and good in what he puts his mind to. But he has a crippling mental disposition of following the political leaders he adores without question. This blind faith of his borders on religiosity when it comes to Raila. He doesn't simply follow Raila unquestionably, he worships him. It is a pity that a great mind like Phil has chosen to be imprisoned by a messianic view of a fellow man.<BR/><BR/>Chris, I don't think you will get far with Phil on matters critical to Raila. When it comes to anything critical about Raila, Phil has closed his mind and encased it in a concrete ball. He would rather burn Kenya and let Raila rule over the ashes than save Kenya from Raila. What is more, this is the social work/gospel he spreads to the Kibera folks daily. It is sad; very sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12839785.post-6921308098066900982009-02-11T01:29:00.000-08:002009-02-11T01:29:00.000-08:00Phil,You say...As a matter of fact you were a late...Phil,<BR/><BR/>You say...<BR/><I><BR/>As a matter of fact you were a late entrant into the LDP, then the ODM’s ‘Its time for change’ clarion call.<BR/></I><BR/>And we expected change. Unfortunately what we see is business as usual, and Phil unashamedly cheering on.<BR/><BR/>You say...<BR/><I><BR/>Regarding the SGR, I gave you details of how the maize was distributed and the reason why it had to be released to the market. The era of price controls is no longer with us, but for the maize issue, government had to intervene to save the common man from traders like Gangilili! The body that was responsible for implementing this plan on behalf of government is constitutionally the NCPB<BR/></I><BR/>You also say....<BR/><I><BR/>Like I said, the weather is beyond Ruto's control. However, subsidizing fertiliser prices and costs of other farming inputs, as well as negotiating maize prices with the farmer is something Ruto has done an excellent job on.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>How can you, in the same breath say the era of price controls is gone, and also say Ruto is efficient in subsidizing fertilizer prices and other farming inputs?<BR/><BR/>Does free market to you mean colluding to buy maize whose cost of production has been subsidized by the government and sell the same to millers? Doesn't this amount to fraud?<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>Ever since joining the GCG, ODM has been working on find sustainable solutions to these problems as can be seen in the PM’s effort to conserve the MAU Forest, and also from the various overseas trips that the PM has made to other countries that have faced and overcome similar food shortage problems as we have now.<BR/></I><BR/> I put it to you Phil, that you are SHAMELESS. Only an idiot can travel to other countries to learn about irrigation.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392614056876577737noreply@blogger.com