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Thursday, May 14, 2009

National Lie: Reconciliation Using Division


Playing politics with dead bodies must be condemned by any sane human being worth his/her blood and flesh. But not in Kenya where leaders engage in shameless charades for political mileage.

Toxic leadership continues to suffocate Kenya living her citizens gasping for air. So Kibaki was in Eldoret presiding over the burial of Kiambaa victims almost 20 months since their deaths. His partisan entourage didn’t do the occasion and Kenya any good.

So here we go again continuing to fortify the foundation of our national lies. The shameless leadership has no qualms tribalising death. But again maybe in their twisted world they can speak first language with the dead. And to their obtuse gratification their apologists will come bandying lofty slogans like reconciliation while the thinly-veiled and cheap political expediency oozes from every orifice of their anatomy.

Wailing louder than bereaved
What is more, we have successfully exported the bigotry across the borders. No wonder Museveni can afford the luxury of effortlessly annexing Kenya as many original bigots cheer him on when he skillfully strokes their ethnic egos Kenyan style.

The non mutating truth be told, no life must be lost in vain. But to derive cheap political capital out of a TRAGEDY by painting others as more aggrieved is no means to either author or nurture reconciliation. The latent bravado and brinkmanship negates any trace of cohesion present thereof.

No contempt is more painful than that tears streaming from crocodile's eyes. The only thing that matters to the present rulers is the MEGA DEALS they make over carcass Kenya. To them all else is noise and rattling that must be ignored and strangulated with all available might.

Kibaki and his entourage may have come for the burial with all the state power. But fools would entertain the notion of legislating good neighbourliness. Even Saitoti missed the boat by a whole river in enumerating the number of police stations.

And our people never run dry of selective amnesia and bravado. Predictably, our national penchant to mask wounds as it festers underneath we will see many chanting and condemning those who chose to absent themselves from the burial lest they inflamed an already raging ethnic inferno.

Stroking ethnic flames
The sooner we garner the courage to look our problems straight in the eye the better. Only then can we retrace when the DEVIL invaded our national homestead. Otherwise we risk continuing the destructive journey of building a firm pyramid of deception which will soon come crashing down leaving no place to hide even for the looters.

While nobody ever suffered constipation from a full course menu of delicious coloured lies, only clothing ourselves with nothing but the truth will help cover our collective national nudity. All else are circular ego trips to oblivion.

108 comments:

Anonymous said...

Man what you wrote is the truth,please do not brand me kikuyu hater ,but our brothers from central must do something about the deceptive Leadership to whose tune they are dancing .I know a few have sensed the danger this artificial thing called Kenya is facing because of the few Kikuyu elite's hate Towards Luos.If you are wise enough you can see Kenya's demise as a nation is sooner than we thought, but we have to blame no body ,it is our own hands that has brought us to this point .

james said...

tribalizing death ????lol those people died as a result of ethnic violence . I dont know any other way of tribalizing death.

we need peace jameni peace peace peace stop ukabila it will destroy you

Anonymous said...

Did michuki, kibaki, saitoti, uhuru and the other MKM-PNU mafia attend any of these burials:

- Kisumu victims of police brutality
- Kakamega victims of police brutality
- Kericho victims of police brutality
- Eldoret victims of police brutality
- Mombasa victims of police brutality
- Nairobi victims of police brutality
- NAIVASHA victims from mungiki hands
- THIKA victims from mungiki hands
- etc

????????????????????????????????????????

let us stop hypocrisy. ok!

John Maina said...

Sad but true, if only majority could open their eyes and realise the senile kibaki is destroying our country.

Daniel Waweru said...

Exceptional, even by your standards. And they are low. This was pre-meditated mass murder on ethnic grounds, which the Prime Minister excused on international TV; there's your tribalisation for you. Senior ODMers freely chose to show their contempt for the victims by not attending, and briefing that any monuments for the victims would be vandalised.

Anonymous said...

John maina i wish you all the best but i think the issue here is not kibaki . But then again you like maina kiai have your rights i hope the next time the militias come and ask for ids you will explain you thought kibaki was senile

kanoo said...

Its a desolate country we live in. I believe more dirty things will happen in the days and months to come. That will be the only way kenya shall be redeemed.
I would on the same note advice politicians to halt assisting funerals in future for the respect of the dead.Their's is not to mourn but to be seen and to continue propagating their venom that is killing this country.
Requiem for kenya, who is ready to sing!

One Wife Man said...

Taabu aka Taabu,
I bring you greetings from desert island MJINJO-jebale seebo!

meanwhile i see in the land of KENYA you are still playing politics..now its with dead bodies- you can't lose those the way you lost the LAND MASS surrounded by UG water

fact or fiction: ODM did not go to the funerals today because the guilty are always afraid and have something to hide

Daniel Waweru said...

I really can't stay away, this latest effort really is quite exceptional.

Kiambaa wasn't a tragedy; it wasn't the result of some of some irresistible involuntary force. It was a quite deliberate mass murder: the assailants were called out; some of them stood guard while others secured the church; they all made systematic efforts to kill as many as possible (locking the doors, hunting down escapees, and soon). This may be why, as the Nation reports, the locals boycotted the funeral; have boycotted the peace and prior reconciliation meetings; and have had their representatives convey the message that any memorials to the victims will be vandalised.

Second, it is obvious who is most aggrieved here. Even if expressing that fact had been, or could reasonably be thought to be, the point of burying them, that provides no reason whatever to act as the ODM leadership and its followers did in showing their contempt for reconciliation efforts. And especially not when that leadership has found the time to fete Jackson Kibor and others who participated in or encouraged the violence.

The facts are that the ODM leadership arranged ethnically-targeted mass murder, defended or excused it afterwards, and now lacks the basic political skill to desist from displaying it contempt for its victims.

Anonymous said...

Waweru,
Chill bro chill let the heat off the collar. You are not doing your course any good by going ballistic and in the process sounding like a learned toad.

True leadership demands foresight and rising above the rest and that is what this post is alluding to. By Kibaki commesirating with his tribal dead he is no better than Gen Ruto.

Instead of being a passanger Emilio should have been honest to take the steering wheel. Only a painful surgery would heal Kenya but as Taabu says your emotions and Kibaki's modus operandi is all shortermism=festering wound.

Drop the plastic chauvistic armour and walk the talk Waweru will you Mungiki?

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru,

Were there not plans involved in the police actions to maliza bila huruma watoto, mama, vijana, wazee who demonstrated coz of rigging in:

Kakamega, Kisumu, Eldoret, Kericho, Nakuru, Mombasa, Nairobi and

werent the Mungiki mayhems in Naivasha, Thika, Juja, Kiambu not planned in State House?

so yo want "others" to be punished but not your "ethnic friendly planners"?

ever wondered why the international community does not give a hoot or toot at your "partisan desires"?

coz they know its HOGWASH!!!

how many tears did you shed for the 8000 vijana from central that Kibaki fagiad kama chura?

and the recent Mungiki and Vigilantes vitas? machozi ngapi???

Its clear to all CENTRAL is decaying. U wont see it until its too late. Pass the popcorn pliz.

Anonymous said...

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's why M7 is my friend.

Anonymous said...

Kumekucha, please stop preaching ethnic hatred on everything including the burial of the innocent victims of the tragedy.

Anonymous said...

one thing about museveni is that he has no permanent friends or enemies. the day his price is paid, he will turn his friends into enemies and his enemies into friends. dont worry, when that happens, museveni will be given the fertile lands of kirinyaga for free by the rest of kenya to settle his ankole people. hehehe

Daniel Waweru said...

True leadership demands foresight and rising above the rest and that is what this post is alluding to. By Kibaki commesirating with his tribal dead he is no better than Gen Ruto.

Instead of being a passanger Emilio should have been honest to take the steering wheel. Only a painful surgery would heal Kenya but as Taabu says your emotions and Kibaki's modus operandi is all shortermism=festering wound.
That's an unimpressive set of thoughts. In the face of public recognition for the single worst PEV atrocity, Taabu was looking for a responsibility-shifting argument. Credit where credit is due: looking for a reason to distract attention from the atrocity implies recognition that it is an atrocity, which is your proof that he isn't utterly depraved. But the argument is rubbish - no amount of wittering about bravado and all the rest of it change the facts about responsibility for the murder or the contempt that the ODM leadership and its followers showed in boycotting the meeting and prior reconciliation meetings.

The point about Kibaki not attending funerals is especially poor, since it is both irrelevant and false: Kibaki attended the funerals of the Sachangwan victims, while refraining from attending some of the funerals of PEV victims from Central. The comparison with Ruto is utterly misplaced, I'm afraid.

An evil of Kiambaa's magnitude deserved public state recognition. Naturally, those responsible for its commission, and those who wish to defend it are going to be uncomfortable with its being marked. In the face of this vileness, Kibaki did the minimum required of his office.

Sam Okello said...

Why should ODM attend and face the embarrassment of the visible blood still trickling from their hands?
why should raila 'mwizi wa mahindi' odinga of the 'kabila adui' fame attend just to shed crocodile tears while the kiambaa church slaughter was his political bargaining chip?

ODM is a house founded on innocent blood and the leadership feared a curse from the dead if they stepped near the coffins.

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru

Out of 1600 PEV victims, 1550 were buried quietly in their communities and Kibaki never bothered to attend. He was busy singing "no power sharing" while the country burst out.

So dont fake us a hypocrite cry. I didnt even see Kibaki attend the funerals for the 19-jaluos massacred by his Uhuru-planned mugikis in Naivasha. After all to kibaki and part of his kikuyus, "jaluos like all other ndurirs are animals and sub-human".

Now why do you want sub-humans to come and cry with you? Si you are superior? Go ahead.

And while at it, tell us more how a superior tribe massacres itself with mungikis and vigilantes and allows its own leaders to massacred thousands of its youth.

ehe .. tell us more .. the hypocritical moral compass.

while the rest of kenya was learning "7 habits of highly succeful people", kirinyaga was attuned to "MY LIFE IN CRIME" and woprship and glorifying money.

its not a surprise that yesterdays toddlers who listened to the wazees blessing "MY LIFe IN CRIME" are now the mungikis and vigilantes extoritionists.

muli tengeneza muzigo. bebeni sasa.

Anonymous said...

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The Campaign entered its first phase with scrutiny of the supplementary Budget. It is envisaged that we will save at the very minimum 10.7 Billion that is concealed in the supplementary Budget .

Further we anticipate that a forensic audit into the Supplementary budget will also identify waste. Yesterday 13th may 2009 the Report Of The Joint Committees On Finance Planning And Trade And The Budget Committee On The Inconsistencies Contained In The Supplementary Estimates Of The Financial Year 2008/2009 was tabled in Parliament and was adopted by the house.

The Joint Committee Recommended that:

1. Since there are inconsistencies in the Supplementary Estimates, they should be withdrawn and correct estimates resubmitted.

2. An independent forensic Audit be done

3. The fiscal Management Bill be approved and enacted as a matter of urgency

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Our gratitude also to the Speaker of the National Assembly Kenneth Marende, who has been fair and just.

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Either way we are grateful to Parliament for doing their duty and in Particular to our request that this matter should not adopt a political nature as public resources are serious matters.

The campaign will now move into its second phase as we advocate for 60% development budget allocations in the National Budget to be brought to Parliament in June 2009.

Anonymous said...

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i guess the PNU and Kamba parties alliance has produced two successes. they have tranferred 2 things from Ukambani to central:

- Dedepndence on govt relief food as myth of hardworkers busted

- Eating Dog meat and selling it in buthersies as faked-normal-meat

Victor said...

What is your the school of thought you are trying to portray here Waweru, are you saying the absence of ODM leaders is proof of some kind of guilt, I would like to see you present that to a court of law its at most circumstancial evidence but more than likely would be deemed irrelevant.

You also cannot verify that the contempt if at all any was intended for the victims or for the PNU team, there is no law against refusing to accompany someone with whom you are unable to work with, adn we know that since the failed Kilaguni talks, the working relationship between ODM and PNU is very slippery.

Harping on raw emotions reliving the horrors of the victims may be your trump card, to obfuscate the reality that its not the deceased who are the cause of contention but rather the organisers and methods being forced down the residents throats wapende wasipende then turning around and faking surprise that they have no local support.

All your arguments center around the victims yet this is a case of poor logisitical planning and management.

Mr Waweru talk about the logistic planning and management (protocal and etiquete also know as common courtesy) that resulted in the no show please. Stop using misleading arguments. Save those arguments for the Truth and Reconciliation, National Cohesion, PEV tribunal and similar, they will be required then.

Anonymous said...

That guy impersonating sam okello is doing a shoddy job. Try to sound as intelligent as sam and well reasoned. Are you big brother?

Anonymous said...

u r all idiots. the reason we have voters cards and free democracy is so that u can vote whoever u want. it doesnt matter even if i vote for a pig or a dog, as long as i exercise my democratic right. the people who were killed were all innocent. they were not at KICC to steal votes! they simply belonged to a tribe of a thief and that doesnt make them thieves. these was cold murder and soon if a thief is caught on the streets of Nairobi from a certain tribe, does that mean we go out and kill the rest of his tribe mates? if people were angry coz of the vote theft, they should have gone to burn down statehouse. it is utter nonesense to kill our fellow country men and u guys keep trying to show justification. we have all forgotten the 10 commandments as a nation and we have all failed. no one is right to correct the other coz we are all failures of our illitrate nature. to show how stupid we r , what benefit has kibaki brought to the kikuyus at the grassroots? nothing expect stupid pride to have a kikuyu president while u sleep hungry. what benefit is a raila presidency or prime ministership? nothing except stupid pride in the fish people while they sleep hungry coz they cant fish at migingo. so how more stupid are we getting by the day? for kalenjins to front their maize eating thug ruto so that they also can feel pride as they sleep hungry due to lack of maize. WE ARE ONE STUPID NATION! PERIOD! AND A SHAME

Anonymous said...

Taabu,

ODM leadership can avoid reconcilliation meetings all they want. A day is fast approaching when they will look for such meetings and they will not find them.

Anonymous said...

The Jaluos are picking too many fights. Somebody who loves them should tell them to slow down.

Anonymous said...

To digress. Nonkiuks/nonluos need to wake up. Kikuyus and luos can argue here as much as they want but the fact is this a kikuyu-luo governement. They are the ones who are stealing and parliament stupidly clears the princes of these two tribes. Kikuyus and luos are making so much noice while screwing the rest of docile kenya. Nonkiuks/nonluos should not support either pnu or odm. we have no stake in this gava.

Reality Check said...

PRESS STOP:

What is the ORIGINAL NAME of this so called kiambaa place that everybody is yapping about ?

Maybe people should start refering to the place with its original name, then we can know which side everybody stands ,in that way there will be no need for shouting and insults.

I wonder how Kalonzo would refer to it since he is supposedly neutral - kiambaa or the original name, maybe he would ask Marende to rule on it. Btw how come nobody is accusing him of not attending the funeral - was it becouse of our dilapidated air fleet or for "security" reasons ?

Martha was also a no show - she is now doing whatever she can to avoid the police. Its a small world indeed.

Anonymous said...

Raila Odinga can avoid all this macabre s of horror by keeping off together with his genocide architects of RV. He can urinate on the dead and justify the death of the people for his own myopic power gain through using failed Journalists like Taabu and fellow Kumekucha bloggers like Sam Okello.After all its their policy of cover the truth with one lie and on top of it heap more lies, you will end up with a deceptive truth. This post shows that the blogger Taabu is cold heartless and a killer AKA Murderer. Only that he uses the Pen. Taabu there is no difference between yourself and and the arsonists who killed those people inside the church. Taabu have you ever seen how a murderer looks like, make a date with the nearest mirror.

Unfortunately you never protect their death and embarrassment in public. Already, your demagogue Rao has joined the dooms day cult and five ODM legislators lays dead. Na bado

Anonymous said...

Kikuyus, kikuyus, kikuyus, you never learn, you are so hated, Kels killed you in Kiambaa and you only blame Luos for all your problems. Right now you are suffering from reverse tribalism, where your own are denying you opportunities because they dont want to appear tribal, other tribes are afraid of you. Please listen to yourselves, with your stolen money, commission a survey by steadman.

Mwarang'ethe said...

Theres a natural mystic blowing through the air;
If you listen carefully now you will hear.
This could be the first trumpet, might as well be the last:
Many more will have to suffer,
Many more will have to die - dont ask me why.

Things are not the way they used to be,
I wont tell no lie;
One and all have to face reality now.
though Ive tried to find the answer to all the questions they ask.
though I know its impossible to go livin through the past -
Dont tell no lie.

So sung Bob Marley.

Everyone is crying out for peace yes
None is crying out for justice

I don't want no peace
I need equal rights and justice
Got to get it
Equal rights and justice

So sung Peter Tosh

eddlove said...

I am a visitor to this blog site and cant help to feel ill at all the tribal animosity construed as political support for so and so party. When will we realise that the root cause of our problems is the political class we have. How many Kenyan citizens are dying of hunger, dying innocently due to lack of basic legal systems in the country.

The death of any citizen wether luo, kikuyu, kalenjin, kamba or somali should be a death that makes the whole country rise up in one voice and demand for justice. We are in a democracy and everyone has a right to support any political party but we all have common issues that should bring us together when they arise. We have a power sharing govt and yet we aint even closer to where we want kenya to be.

The politicians are just colluding to keep us poor, remember:
Grand Regency
Maize Scandal
Budget Scandal

They have ganged up to swindle Kenyans. Even the saviors have turned to villains.

shaka said...

Kibaki need not to have attended this function.As head of state and having missed out on similar functions for PEV victims in other parts of the country he should have stayed away as part of healing.
By attending only this one which affected people from his community he has struck the ethnic would again.He has taken sides. Doesn't the burger have advisers for Satan's sake?

Anonymous said...

Hallos,

I rarely contribute to this blog although i am quite a fan of Kumekucha.

Let's not forget the root cause of deaths at Kiambaa in Eldoret.

For a fact, the victims were innocent

They were only paying for the sins of their grandfathers up to fourth generation.

If u read Jaramogi's book; Not Yet Uhuru, it is very clear that this bloodshed was foreseen. And going by your comments here it may not stop.

What worries me however is that the people preaching tribal hate in this column are opinion shapers in our society today. So how is the rural mind thinking if learned people here can reason like this?

It does not matter whether u like Raila or Kibaki or whoever, but can we start to have some reasonable debate as enlightened people.

Let's not assume that we are passing time here, this comments are read far and wide and actually shape opinions for the whole country.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

eddlove,

you are right but it is mostly kikuyu and luo politicians who are killing us. raila mobilised us in 2007 with the dream of bringing all tribes to the high table but i now doubt if this would have happened. the luo elite would just replace the kikuyu elite. they are now sharing power and each side is trying to steal as much as possible. cant the rest of kenya do anything. Is it not a very serious matter when the head of the country's standards body swears an affidavit acccusing the pm's office of pressuring him to release contaminated maize to the population? was he lying on oath? why cant this be looked into as it is literally a matter of life and death?

Anonymous said...

Eddlove, it's not just political class as such. It is the political culture that is built on and around the concentration of power. The attached article says it all. The sad thing is that the common man in Kenya knows this. It remains to be seen if power (ODM and PNU) gives itself up for reform. If with God's grace that is accomplished in Kenya, it could foster similar replication in other young democracies. Kenya's agony will have served a purpose.

A prayer for the deceased in all towns and settlements. Kenya is at a cross-roads. I wonder if the political class will rise to the occasion.

Too Much Power in Too Few Hands

For the moment, the news from Kenya is called “good”. Odinga’s confrontational rally shelved; Kibaki’s non-speak policy softened; mediation filtering in. Things are not worsening. The 600, 1 000, or who knows – funerals will be conducted. The quarter-million – or half-million, or who knows – displaced people will return to what is left of their homes. The direction is towards restoration.

But “good” is a sickening word in the circumstances, wildly outweighed by the ungoodness that restoration should be necessary at all. Moreover, the methods of restoration so far show no reasonable signs of cutting out future repeat acts. Nor of obviating similar disasters in others of the world’s flimsier democracies.

The nub of the problem is not the personalities of the players, the characteristics of the people behind them, or the concatenation of ethnic loyalties that now spill out of hiding. The nub is the set of conventions that have become attached to democracy.

Democracy originally conveyed the notion that people exercise power over their lives. Widely now, and especially in respect of newer democracies, the idea is that if the population is given a more or less free choice to fill in a winner-take-all headcount behind one of two contesting Big Men, voila! Democracy is fulfilled.

Kenya’s (contested) election figures show 4.5 million votes for Kibaki, 4.3 million for Odinga. That split would have returned Kibaki and his people something more than 90% of Kenya’s total quantity of political power.

In America’s upcoming presidential election, the split may be as narrow, even narrower. It will not lead to deaths or displacements. Why not? Because there is power elsewhere. In America’s states, its cities, its towns, its counties, the decisions that affect people do not depend on a massive pyramid headed by a single person.


That, finally, is the difference. In Kenya and in many countries, the birth of real stability will come with the discovery of how to really spread power.

http://www.africanexecutive.com/modules/magazine/news.php?id_news_main=1&id_news=53

Mwarang'ethe said...

Anonymous @ 5/15/09 12:45 AM

Is it not a very serious matter when the head of the country's standards body swears an affidavit
acccusing the pm's office of pressuring him to release contaminated maize to the population? was he lying on oath? why cant this be looked into as it is literally a matter of life and death?

Our response:

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/598472/-/u69rt4/-/index.html

Anonymous said...

Shaka, you're spot on. Kibaki ought to have stayed away. As the Head of State and as a Kikuyu, his absence would have set a strong reconciliation tone.

eddlove said...

Politicians have created a beautiful lie thats its this or that tribe that is the cause of there problems. Because of this Kenyans are hungry coz they burned food, chased each other from there homes. They fought for the politicians now they cant afford food, they die like flies and they are eating poisoned food.

They support there politicians to get more power or retain the power they have and at the end of the dya they go home hungry. I really hate this, they pretend that they are fighting for there party but they don't know they are fighting for them to eat more and for them to have less than none.

Wake up guys Raila or Kibaki cant help us we can only help ourselves.

Anonymous said...

THE TRUTH. THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE DEATHSMwai "pumbavu" Kibaki was the main cause of the deaths of his fellow tribesmen and women at this "Kiambaa" place.

How? This is how: He STOLE the elections of December '07 in broad daylight and in the process annoyed people BEYOND boiling point resulting in them doing the unthinkable, just like Mwai "pumbavu" Kibaki did the unthinkable by STEALING THE ELECTIONS OF DECEMBER '07.

A so called intelligent and highly educated individual such as Mwai "pumbavu" Kibaki should have known that all terrible actions, like STEALING elections, have terrible consequences, like these unnecessary deaths.

The fool - Mwai "pumbavu" Kibaki - should just have accepted that he had lost the elections and all of these unnecessary tragic things would not have occured. That, my fellow Kumekucha friends, it the TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH.

Jigga said...

Comments on this blog are prove that we are definetly headed for another round of violence similar or worse than post election violence of 2008. If this is what middle class pple are thinking just imagine what is going through the minds of drown trodden. I am a kalenjin and trust you me there is no reconciliation that has happened between the kalenjin and kikuyu as witnessed in yesterdays kiambaa burial. The sooner reforms with regard to land, constitution and inequality are done the better for all of us.
If Kibaki just fall dead at this hr your guess is as good as mine as to what will happen. Another round of butchering. Kenyans never learn from mistakes !

eddlove said...

BREAKING NEWS
60 BAGS OF WHAT IS BELIEVED TO BE CONTAMINATED MAIZE HAS BEEN SEIZED IN MARAGUA.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2.02 you are spot on. It doesn't matter how intelligent you pen your comments apportioning blame on either party or tribe. The root cause of the PEV is known by everybody including MK came from the historical injustices dating back to 1950s. The greatest tragedy today is that nobody from either side is burning the midnight oil to address this issues in toto and as Kriegler said, if another incident triggers this ogre the 2007 PEV will look like an x-mas party. In kumekucha we have so many intellectual twits who misuse their knowledge of English and writing to inflame tribal passions because they are in fake safe havens, but fail to engage some wisdom by keeping their tribal bigotry to themselves coz the people they claim to defend have so many defenseless masses uko mashinani like Kiambaa and Naivasha. If I were this group ie David Waweru and co. I would swallow a nail rather than show how heartless we are by penning pieces which aggravate the situation.
Somebody once said that every big thing or idea has a humble beginning therefore there is no small thing.

Anonymous said...

Everyone who has a brain knows that kenyans will slaughter each other again in 2012.

Whatever your political affiliation don't complain about how your tribe has suffered unless you are willing to pressure your own politicians to act to prevent further bloodshed and unify the country.

I hate hearing all these graphic descriptions about how people were burnt and so on. You are the very people who planting the seeds of hatred for such violence to thrive. Why should you complain if it hurts you?

Anonymous said...

Grounds - “politically engineered” and was “absolutely clumsy”.

”The proposal by the House committee on Agriculture, which is chaired by Naivasha MP John Mututho, to have an ad hoc committee on food security investigated The MPs, including a member of the team which prepared the report, disowned some of the clauses saying that Mr Odinga and officers under his watch HAD NOT BEEN INVITED TO GIVE THEIR EVIDENCE to the parliamentary committee.

The clauses implicating the ODM leader were removed by an amendment moved by Gwassi MP John Mbadi (ODM), who said that the recommendations made against the PM were “baseless”.

The proposal by the House committee on Agriculture, which is chaired by Naivasha MP John Mututho, to have an ad hoc committee on food security investigated was the first to be deleted. Mr Mbadi said “there were no tangible facts linking the committee to the food shortage.” - Nation Newspapers


It would be interesting to know if the report had any "TYPOS" as it is definitely ERRONEOUS

Anonymous said...

OOoh good lord. Why Maragua?

Anonymous said...

Let me guess - the maize that is " sized " is the same batch. The evidence is that the PMs family [ read son ] was seen in the area.

Hizo bangi unavuti combined with the dog meat you are eating is definately not good for you.

Anonymous said...

Mr Odinga, Mr Kosgey and Mr Ruto had NOT been invited to the event and that they only knew about it on Wednesday the 13th May.

That is why they decided that they were probably not needed there at "Kiambaa"." This incident reminds me of how Martha Karua was shunted aside during the swearing in of the Judges recently by Kibaki and Gicheru. Pumbavu wonders never cease in Kenya.

The panua side still continues with it's ridiculous antics of thinking that only they are the govt and that ODM is an intuder....

John Maina said...

Daniel waweru
Do you truely believe kibaki was in eld. because of his love and sympathise for the victims and not to gloat on their pain as you are doing? kirimu(fool)open your eyes/brain? you are defending the indefensible, though it betrays your mind set and who butters your bread.

What juvenile excuse would you point to on the senile president not consoling or attending the burial of the mungiki massacre in Kirinyaga? ODM tena ama kirinyaga is not in kenya?

I bet you the same myopic Daniel that wrote a trash review of githongo's book in kenyaimagine faulting his good work.

Its no longer about odm or tribe but saving our country from a kyuk elite that is accelarating us all to self destruction forgetting that even the elite will sink just like everybody else (Liberia/Somalia etc). Hata kama uko in the west i believe you do have family's back home.

yours is called koigi mentality.

kabila adui said...

I am speechless.
Innocent people were killed because of how they voted in an election. There is absolutely NO merit in discussing who attends (or not) their funereals. It is of no consequence.
Let them rest in peace.

eddlove said...

WHY CANT WE REALISE THAT WE NEED TO RECONCILE AMONGST OURSELVES AND NOT RELY ON THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP. AM KIKUYU BUT I FIND NO ISSUE WORKING WITH SOMEONE NOT FROM MY TRIBE. I REGRET THAT WE HAD TO GO AND KILL EACH OTHER AND BURN FOOD IN THE SHAMBAS AND SILOS. WE ARE STARVING NOW, FOOD PRICES ARE SO HIGH AND MY FELLOW KENYANS MITE BE EATING POISONED MAIZE. KIBAKI IS THE PRESIDENT AND RAILA THE PM BUT WHY DON'T THEY GET THERE ACT TOGETHER. WHY DONT THEY SEE THE FACES OF KENYANS IN DESPAIR AND SAY ENUFF IS ENUFF WE NEED TO STYLE UP.
LETS NOT FIGHT EACH OTHER LETS REALISE WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT SHOULD BE THE BASIS OF OUR RECONCILIATION.

M-Pesa said...

With these kind of hate filled comments full of tribal vitriol, Kenya is better off saddled with the current scumbag politicians.

Anonymous said...

eddlove @ 3:03 AM

You said:

"KIBAKI IS THE PRESIDENT AND RAILA THE PM BUT WHY DON'T THEY GET THERE ACT TOGETHER. WHY DONT THEY SEE THE FACES OF KENYANS IN DESPAIR"

Get their act together? Lets be honest with one another. Ever since Kibaki stole the elections of December '07 He still fraudulently regards himself to be the "duly" elected president of Kenya. At best he and his PNU side regard Raila as an intruder and not a real member of government. This ridiculous scenario is real and Raila and so many others are aware of it.

Now, in such crazy cirumstances do you really expect the Kibaki and Raila to "get their act together?" It is not realistically possible.

The fellow you should be asking to get his act together is Mwai "pumbavu" Kibaki. This fool still continues behaving on two foolish assumptions:

1) That he won the elections of Dec '07 & 2) That the accord (NARA) does not matter - he probably thinks it is a pumbavu document.

So long as Kibaki continues behaving like this, Kenya will not know real peace. It will be continuous crisis after continuous crisis until his fraudulent term ends - the quicker the better!

makena said...

Why did ODM MPs shelve the report on the maize scandal? Are they like PNU MPs who also don't give a shit about Kenyans during a famine?

Ken said...

http://www.ledama.com/

Andruid said...

Mwanrang'ethe.

You cannot get equality and justice where there is no peace.

Better to share a few mosels in harmony, that be at a feast of strife. (paraphrased from the Book mof proverbs)

Mwarang'ethe said...

Daniel Waweru wrote that:

That's an unimpressive set of thoughts. In the face of public recognition for the single worst PEV atrocity, Taabu was looking for a responsibility-shifting argument.

Our views:

What formula did you use to come to the conclusion that, this atrocity at Kiambaa was worse than the Naivasha atrocities? We are taking Naivasha as an example for there are others.

We think that, this idea of magnifying our losses, while minimising others is unwise. Let us be balanced in these things.

Anonymous said...

Lets stop this highschool cheer squad matusi.......How can you tell how people voted? Only the voting booth knows who voted for whom.....seriously.
I do not support violence but if you show open support to a guy who is bastardising democracy the lovers of democracy may react in a rather unfreindly manner......some may get way over excited and do the kinds of things that happend during PEV.

But to claim that people were killed simply for voting is LIE!!!!!

lets not twist the truth the anger expressed during the PEV had nothing to do with voting, it was about percieved loyalties to oppressors, that is historical, and all the nonsense that ocured during emelio's brief reign at the throne....like someone said here the friend of my enemy is my enemy.....if you vote a pig that wants me dead don't be suprised if I come for you kneck too......Nothing personal its just a game of survival.

Sir Alex

Mwarang'ethe said...

Andruid said...
Mwanrang'ethe.

You cannot get equality and justice where there is no peace.

Our response:

The fruits of peace are equality and justice. In the absense of the two fruits, there is no peace.

Thus, to the extent that, these fruits have been missing all along, there has never been peace.

Jigga said...

Let me give you a brief history. In the early 60's before Moi was vice president Kenyatta was getting alot of pressure from freedom fighters from central province regarding share of land. The land in central and nairobi environs was too 'little' to share with the fighters so he looked hard for fertile and productive land. He saw rift valley, he needed someone who could be listened to from riftvalley to persuade locals to accept outsiders to settle. Moi was promised vice presidency and thereafter presidency if he managed to convince the populace about this idea. Moi did not bother to convince anyone he bulldozed his way using local leaders who could be easily compromised and land was dished out to outsiders. This he did against the advise of paramount and seniour chiefs. Any leader who tried to oppose this was met with the full brunt of the law ( seroney etc)
Why I'm saying all these. I'm saying this because i foresee many more 'kiambaa's' taking place if these land injustices are not dealt with once and for all.
The killings in rift valley were not so much political as they were about land. Ppl thought once ODM got into power these issues would be dealt with. How wrong they were.No one seems to be articulating them in parliament right now.
Now is the time to deal with issues the more they're swept under the carpet the bigger the monster.

Anonymous said...

News

Raila cleared as House rejects report on Sh3bn maize scandal

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Prime Minister Raila Odinga. Photo/FILE

By NJERI RUGENE and ALPHONCE SHIUNDU Posted Friday, May 15 2009 at 09:34

Parliament on Thursday absolved Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s his family and his office from blame in the Sh3.6 billion maize scandal. MPs deleted clauses that linked Mr Odinga’s son and personal assistant to the scandal and then threw out the entire report on the grounds that it was “politically engineered” and was “absolutely clumsy”.

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The MPs, including a member of the team which prepared the report, disowned some of the clauses saying that Mr Odinga and officers under his watch had not been invited to give their evidence to the parliamentary committee.

The clauses implicating the ODM leader were removed by an amendment moved by Gwassi MP John Mbadi (ODM), who said that the recommendations made against the PM were “baseless”.

The proposal by the House committee on Agriculture, which is chaired by Naivasha MP John Mututho, to have an ad hoc committee on food security investigated was the first to be deleted. Mr Mbadi said “there were no tangible facts linking the committee to the food shortage.”

The report had accused the Food Security Committee chaired by Mr Odinga of interfering with the tendering process, but Mr Mbadi argued that “in any case, it was the National Cereals and Produce Board which implemented the directive.”

Mr Robert Monda (Nyaribari Chache, Narc) who seconded the amendment said by adversely mentioning the Prime Minister, his family and his personal assistants and failing to invite them to shed light on the matter, the committee had not done its job properly.

“Who does this report refer to the PM has two sons, very many personal assistants and when you say family, do you mean the nuclear, extended or political family?” Mr Mbadi asked. Budalang’i MP Ababu Namwamba supported the deletion of Mr Odinga’s name saying there was a trend by some MPs to focus on witch-hunting.

“It is absolutely unacceptable when this House becomes an arena of speculation and rumour mongering,” he said. Even the recommendation to have the Grain Bulk Handling Limited investigated was deleted. Also absolved were the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Agriculture, Mr Romano Kiome and his Special Programmes counterpart, Mr Ali Mohammed, whose sacking had been recommended by the report.

The debate was disrupted temporarily after Githunguri MP Njoroge Baiya notified the chair that there were not enough MPs to transact business. The quorum bell was rung and ODM whip Jakoyo Midiwo and Nyakach MP Pollyns Ochieng rushed out to marshal MPs back into the debating chamber.

There were 32 MPs in the House when the debate resumed at 6.05 pm. Cabinet ministers William ole Ntimama and Otieno Kajwang termed the allegations against Mr Odinga as “a witch-hunt” engineered to sully the name of the Prime Minister.

“You ought to show what the Prime Minister has done to warrant such investigations on his family, associates and even on the Food Security Committee. We must be cautious in the way we approach these things,” Mr Ntimama, also the National Heritage minister, said. “One day we’ll know what happened to our maize.”

He challenged the committee to explain why they had not also recommended that the ministers be sacked together with the PSs since they work together.

Food security

Mr Kajwang dismissed the report as lacking foundation and a disgrace to Parliament. “This committee was supposed to concentrate on issues of food security and it did not do that,” he said. Mr Midiwo stood on a point of order seeking to have the debate cut short since “everybody is saying the same thing.”

Temporary Speaker Margaret Kamar then asked Mr Mututho to respond after which the House rejected the 77-page report. Mr Mututho listened attentively as his report was discredited. When he stood to reply to the Motion after the contributions, he was brief:

“There comes a time when people have to learn to speak and listen to the truth. And the truth lies in this report,” he said. The MP described the report as “a professional piece of work done by a professional committee.”

Anonymous said...

Sir Alex,

This is Anon 3:24 AM.

You said:

"But to claim that people were killed simply for voting is LIE!!!!! lets not twist the truth, the anger expressed during the PEV had nothing to do with voting, it was about perceived loyalties to oppressors"

Excellent stuff! The absolute truth! Very well put; I agree with you 100%.

You had also earlier said:

"I do not support violence but if you show open support to a guy (Kibaki)who is bastardising democracy the lovers of democracy may react in a rather unfreindly manner......some may get way over excited and do the kinds of things that happend during PEV."

And for speaking such truths, the Panua crowd who visit this blog and make comments hate you intensely. Well, all I can say is that it is they, the panua crowd, who have and are the problem by blindly supporting Mwai "pumbavu" Kibaki and the pumbavu status quo.

Anonymous said...

Jaluos + Museveni = Total Madness

Anonymous said...

Olekina 2012.....

This guy is making the sterotypcal jokes about maasai ring true.....This sir is not a highschool debating club and 2012 is not just some prize to be won by clever moves......ask kalooser...you have to be on the ground now 2009, show us what you got....can you for example mobilse kenyans to solve any of the current issues paining us?.....thats if you know them.....

People are totaly missing the Obama thing.....Obama was a community organiser way before even thinking about running for president......you need street cred my brother....wish you well..at least your not just payukaering you have entered the ring like a man....... looks like your headed for baptism by fire....

Sir Alex

Anonymous said...

after looking at Wiki I retract the guy looks serious...Ole

Sir Alex

Ken said...

Sir Alex, I am not Ledama, I am just an admirer who has read Wikipedia and likes what he has done.

I am tired of politics of the same old tired faces coming under new banners.

I am tired of monarchy in Kenya: Grandfather to father to son to grandson... Kwani other Kenyans can't rule Kenya.

I can assure you he is already on the ground.

Search him on FB en add him to your friends list then you can be getting updates of where he visits and what he is doing.

He has been to the IDP camps, to Kericho tea farms, Western and many other places. He is on the grassroots and by the time the faggots realize he is there, it will too late like happened with Obama.


http://www.ledama.com/

Anonymous said...

Some one has talked about "spreading power" as the way to ensure stability. This is basically majimbo and mayors being chief executives of their cities/towns. we need this before the next elections. But i suspect those who consider themselves front runners for the presidency (and their supporters) want it as it is.

Anonymous said...

Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian.

Daniel Waweru said...

Ahh, Mwarang'ethe,

Always ready with a bad and inrrelevant argument.

What formula did you use to come to the conclusion that, this atrocity at Kiambaa was worse than the Naivasha atrocities? We are taking Naivasha as an example for there are others.Assuming the tragedies are commensurable, crude numbers will do the trick.

Anonymous said...

THOSE POOR PEOPLE WERE INNOCENT

Anonymous said...

What is this moving to people's geographical location and instead of assimilating and embracing the local names adopting new ones?

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:11

THey are called chauvinists and bigots, and when the locals reject them, they claim victimhood.

Daniel Waweru said...

Do you truely believe kibaki was in eld. because of his love and sympathise for the victims and not to gloat on their pain as you are doing? kirimu(fool)open your eyes/brain? you are defending the indefensible, though it betrays your mind set and who butters your bread.With respect, this is irrelevant. Kiambaa was an atrocity which merited public state recognition and he provided it.

What juvenile excuse would you point to on the senile president not consoling or attending the burial of the mungiki massacre in Kirinyaga? ODM tena ama kirinyaga is not in kenya?Kiambaa was significantly worse; it merited public state recognition in light of its nature; the nature and motivation for the violence present a direct challenge to the foundations of the state; the victims of Kiambaa were deliberately murdered, at least in part, for having voted for him. I could go on, but you get the picture.

I bet you the same myopic Daniel that wrote a trash review of githongo's book in kenyaimagine faulting his good work.The very same, and thank you for reading KI. I like to think I was reasonably complimentary of his work.

Its no longer about odm or tribe but saving our country from a kyuk elite that is accelarating us all to self destruction forgetting that even the elite will sink just like everybody else (Liberia/Somalia etc). Hata kama uko in the west i believe you do have family's back home.I see you've read your Kiai and Muite dutifully. Anyway, what they're offering is a scapegoat, not political analysis. I'll have a reply to them soon enough. But briefly, 18 years of periodic mass murder in the Rift Valley has brought us to the brink of civil war. It's no secret that the violence has been driven by the Kalenjin political class, or that the episodes have occurred under two different presidents, one of them non-Gikuyu. Quite apart from the fact that rather a lot of non-Kalenjin have been displaced, ethnic violence in the Rift Valley has an even odds chance of breaking Kenya. While I'm happy to agree with Kiai and Muite that the Gikuyu political class is venal and so on, I think that they've missed the most serious problem.

Daniel Waweru said...

What is this moving to people's geographical location and instead of assimilating and embracing the local names adopting new ones?Yes. I remember the fierce attacks in 2007 on Simbi and Owiro farms.

Victor said...

Waweru

I've said before, the issue here is bad and poor logistic planning and management which is a perennial problem with PNU. PNU wants to set the agenda and everyone else to follow like goats. It may work in Central where mtongoria coughs and the rest of you run, but elsewhere, we prefer all inclusive planning and if someone does not want that then let them conduct their affairs privately and not pretend its a community affair

On the issue of atrocities committed we are ready to table all the atrocities committed against every citizen of Kenya as a result of the elections 2007, it started in 2005 and peaked in the period now labeled PEV.

We dont fall for that crap you keep on harping on the Eldoret burning just because it got international coverage. There were many atrocities, each impacting a citizen in very unique ways. Lets table all those atrocities, and use whatever means and avenues that those interested in rebuilding this nation would like to use. We can offer suggestions as well as reject those which are unworkable.

YOur heavily biased view may work in your local pubs, but will not move this country forward.

Man up and lets rebuild, we cant keep reliving the past.

We cannot do anything to mend our past, but we can take charge of our affairs today for a better tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

As shrewd and undemocratic a leader as he was, who would ever have imagined a day would come whe we would say that we missed MO1?

I would take him any day of the week over the "sloth" we have at SH masquerading as the "dury" elected P of Kenya.

At least Moi had the guts and balls to act. Maybe I can go and get him at Karbanet gardens before he unwinds for the weekend to call hom out of retirement to man the "ship" until 2010 or 2012.

Taabu said...

Waweru,
You have dutifully exhausted yourself. Besides being so judgemental and trying so hard to trash everybody except you, ever heard of the cliche YOU DON'T EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS BY EMPLOYING SAME TACTICS?

You are an irreconciliable etyhnic purist trying too hard to lend an academic brush to village demagogry. Good luck and never assume anything on others lest you drown in embarassment.

muigwithania2.0 said...

“No people in history have ever survived who thought they could protect their freedom by making themselves inoffensive to their enemies” -Dean Acheson(1893 –1971) RIP Kiambaa Chuch Victims.

There is no point insulting one another .The John Maina's,Githongo's,william ruto's Okello's Taabu's etc .I look forward to seeing you in the future.Some times men need to stop talking and settle things without talking 2012 is not far.

One Wife Man said...

Anon@7:24
I understand where you're coming from but missing Moi is akin to accepting one national lie is better than another when we all know all lies are equal in stink measure

Moi was an accident waiting to happen and when it did the ticking time bomb set the bar so dangerously low and in a dark place that we've not recovered as a country till today

I'll admit Dr.Kibaki is no good for this country either, but the idea here is to FORWARDS EVER BACKWARDS NEVER. let Moi continue to graze his cattle and sheep at home

Daniel Waweru said...

I've said before, the issue here is bad and poor logistic planning and management which is a perennial problem with PNU. PNU wants to set the agenda and everyone else to follow like goats. It may work in Central where mtongoria coughs and the rest of you run, but elsewhere, we prefer all inclusive planning and if someone does not want that then let them conduct their affairs privately and not pretend its a community affairThat's an interesting defence, and it might have a chance of success but for the inconvenient fact that the locals had sufficient notice to boycott the funeral; thatthere was sufficient notice to arrange a pastor from a Church 35 km away; and that, as the Nation reports, they've threatened to destroy any memorial to the victims. An administrative snafu is the least of your difficulties.


On the issue of atrocities committed we are ready to table all the atrocities committed against every citizen of Kenya as a result of the elections 2007, it started in 2005 and peaked in the period now labeled PEV.

We dont fall for that crap you keep on harping on the Eldoret burning just because it got international coverage. There were many atrocities, each impacting a citizen in very unique ways. Lets table all those atrocities, and use whatever means and avenues that those interested in rebuilding this nation would like to use. We can offer suggestions as well as reject those which are unworkable.

YOur heavily biased view may work in your local pubs, but will not move this country forward.

Man up and lets rebuild, we cant keep reliving the past.

We cannot do anything to mend our past, but we can take charge of our affairs today for a better tomorrow.
You can't bring two different attitudes to history. As it happens, your side has argued that the past justifies present atrocities. Frankly, that's a risky move to make, since today's atrocities quickly enter the past and lie there, waiting to justify future ones. Which is why you've got to bring a selective attitude to atrocities: the past justifies mass murder for your side, but doesn't even justify commemoration for the other side.

You could leave it there: that's bad enough, but if you hide the bad reasoning well enough, not too many will see it. Unfortunately, you've chosen to argue against the atrocity itself: so you argue that it was one of many; that it was only noteworthy because it was picked up by the international press; and that taking notice of it -- giving it its proper measure -- could only be motivated by (ethnic) bias.

But those are just bad arguments. It was one of many, but that's quite consistent with it being notably bad. It was noticed by the international press and others precisely because it was so bad -- the attackers showed exceptional depravity in throwing children back into the flames, it was clearly well-organised, it was clearly motivated by ethnic hate, rather a lot of people died, and so on. The depravity of the thing, as well as its motivation, mean that any reasonable person will consider it noteworthy (not to mention uncomfortably reminiscent of Rwanda); that puts paid to your claim that attention to it must be motivated by ethnic bias.

Daniel Waweru said...

You have dutifully exhausted yourself. Besides being so judgemental and trying so hard to trash everybody except you, ever heard of the cliche YOU DON'T EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS BY EMPLOYING SAME TACTICS?

You are an irreconciliable etyhnic purist trying too hard to lend an academic brush to village demagogry. Good luck and never assume anything on others lest you drown in embarassment.
Taabu, come now. That's below your usual standards. I've seen you do better. And with less conventional orthopgraphy too.

Victor said...

Waweru

Knowledge of the function and boycotting goes to demonstrate the locals were not adequately engaged in the management of this process i.e their grievances were overlooked. Thats why they had to get someone not as local 35 km away. I hope it is not lost on you that those leading the funeral were from 200km away as well.

You dont seem to get that. I am persuaded that you would be the first to register your disapproval if a group of people invaded your homestead and started to "re-organise your activities". Its not that you hate them, its that they have no right. If that funciton had been organised by the local elders but the locals boycotted, then you may have had a point.

Your other arguments in the second and third para are a result of a fertile and overactive imagination, not based on anything I have stated but on rather wild and emotive assumptions you are trying to force down my throat and will ignore your rants.

Nearly all atrocities were ethnic motivated and my point to you is that it was across the board. Lets list all of them, they have all been captured, you have a morbid obsession with the one Eldoret incident. I have not asked you to ignore, I have said lets look at all, lets not play God or Prosecutor/Judge/Jury/Executioner and decide which was lesser or greater than the other. Each citizen was impacted lets put them all down and come together and reason on way forward.

Your last paragraph repeats more detail the Eldoret incident, you just dont get it.

Anonymous said...

Daniel Waweru,

For Taabu and a few others the Kiambaa Massacre didnt happen, it is Kikuyus spinning a yarn to gain international coverage. Just as it was denied on BBC Hardtalk before the whole world. we can deny all we want but truth like a boil has uncanny ability of popping out when least expected.

Naivasha and Kiambaa deaths were unneccesary because we ought to live in a society where if we disgaree, the agreer and the diasgreer can live with the knowledge they can agree or disagree another day. In our case if we disagree we burn or chop off your head.

Taabu is taking a moral high horse, unfortunately everything in joints is rotten, suffering a serious athritic bout of denial and misplaced sense of right.

We need to slice open this festering abscess of denial, shine a light to the maggots of demagogry and pour peroxide of truth on it, feel the pain of exposure and say never again. until we feel the pain, which we have not even started we will not see Canan soon. What politicians from both divides are promising us is a mirage and miracles and frankly we have had enough of each!

Daniel Waweru said...

«Knowledge of the function and boycotting goes to demonstrate the locals were not adequately engaged in the management of this process i.e their grievances were overlooked. Thats why they had to get someone not as local 35 km away. I hope it is not lost on you that those leading the funeral were from 200km away as well.»

Apparently not. There was prior notice, as shown by the threat to destroy any permanent memorial to the victims. And the fact that locals have boycotted prior peace and reconciliation meetings is persuasive evidence that the non-attendance was deliberate, not inadvertent, and motivated by other than a schedule clash. Again, the peace meetings are the accepted and neutral forum for the airing of grievances. Locals have quite deliberately scorned them, even when they’re run by co-ethnics. So it’s slightly ironic that you’re looking to argue that
inattention to their grievances is what’s driving the boycott. Economy of explanation suggests that the locals and their leaders object to the memorisation of the atrocity, for obvious reasons.

Also, your argument has shifted. Earlier, you were keen to show that ODM dignitaries and not-so dignitaries didn’t attend because they didn’t know of the funeral. Now, you appear to concede that they did know of the funeral. Would it be too much to ask, to ask that you stick to making one argument at a time?

«You dont seem to get that. I am persuaded that you would be the first to register your disapproval if a group of people invaded your homestead and started to "re-organise your activities". Its not that you hate them, its that they have no right. If that funciton had been organised by the local elders but the locals boycotted, then you may have had a point.»

«Your other arguments in the second and third para are a result of a fertile and overactive imagination, not based on anything I have stated but on rather wild and emotive assumptions you are trying to force down my throat and will ignore your rants.»

That’s not really the test. You own what can reasonably be inferred from your remarks. The fact that all your arguments in mitigation go only one way is telling of itself. And it’s obvious – all you have to do is look around – that the atrocities in Kiambaa were justified on the grounds that those who perpetrated them were themselves the victims of past injustice.

«Nearly all atrocities were ethnic motivated and my point to you is that it was across the board. Lets list all of them, they have all been captured, you have a morbid obsession with the one Eldoret incident. I have not asked you to ignore, I have said lets look at all, lets not play God or Prosecutor/Judge/Jury/Executioner and decide which was lesser or greater than the other. Each citizen was impacted lets put them all down and come together and reason on way forward.»

That’s a terrible argument: it’s as though I’ve argued that my car is a red 504, and you’ve responded that you have a red car too. How exactly would that show that my car wasn’t a 504? Pointing out what the atrocity shared with others doesn’t show that it shared all its features with the others; if your aim is to show that the atrocity must have some unique feature to merit notability, then you need another argument.

«Your last paragraph repeats more detail the Eldoret incident, you just don’t get it.»

If you look carefully, I attempt to give reasons why it’s deserving of the attention it got.

Anonymous said...

mr waweru

hehehe. i see your pay here has yet to produce tangible results.

pole muzee. your message is HOGWASH!

wewe zika wenu. sisi tulizika wetu.

ok!!!

Victor said...

Makes no sense to honor the memory of one tribe in teh community and totally ignore that of other tribes equally aggrieved in the same community. Makes no sense to have a state funeral for one tribe in the community while the other deaths from the same PEV were buried quietly.

The argument about insufficient inclusion for the ODM luminaries remains. You are cheekily trying to insinuate that the boycott by the locals and the inattendance by the luminaries is one and the same thing. It is not. THe locals boycotted the event, the luminaries had prior engagements.

But you know what Mr Waweru, am tired of this crap, here is what I suggest please arrange another burial, I shall personally hire some professional mourners to turn up. They'll come weeping and wailing and falling all over themselves, they shall build a monument everywhere you suggest. Maybe that will appease you and hopefully get you to a position where we can move forward. Specify what colours to wear, what faces to wear, how to walk etc. I think you have cheapened the memory of those departed souls.

End of Chapter, say whatever else you may want am done with this topic.

Daniel Waweru said...

«The argument about insufficient inclusion for the ODM luminaries remains. You are cheekily trying to insinuate that the boycott by the locals and the inattendance by the luminaries is one and the same thing. It is not. THe locals boycotted the event, the luminaries had prior engagements.»

There's a nice clear connection. Rift Valley MPs explained that they wouldn’t attend because that was the wish of their constituents, as reported in the Nation. Which rather conflicts with the claim that there was insufficient notice.

Victor said...

Professional mourners are on-call, just say when

Taabu said...

LOL, so we have PROFESSIONAL and ACADEMIC mourners. The former wail louder than the bereaved while the later ASTROCITIZE the bleak.

Re-living a grotesque scence only succeeds in inflaming emotions and adds no merit to an argument. Emotions answers to our hearts and gives leave to the head. Take your pick.

Thank God for social science where a partisan newspaper can be serially quoted as authority. May be we live eternally in denial there after.

Anonymous said...

If they really wanted to lay the dead to rest, thats not the way to do it... Rest will only be achieved after agenda 4 hurdle is cleared. Even retired Moi was so "busy" on this day he had to send his condolences yet he is a professional funeral attendee nowdays. If he meant it, he would have sent his son, not the professional political clown - Bargetuny.

Anonymous said...

AT LONG LAST PETER OGEGO
(WASHINGTON AMBASSADOR)
KIBAKI'S MALAYA HAS BEEN CAUGHT STEALING- THE KENYA DAISPORA ARE RIGHT.. I HEAR HE STOLE LOTS OF MONEY WHILE HE WAS IN CANADA- AUDITS SHOULD BE DONE THERE TOO- BUT KIBAKI HAS REFUSED TO SACK HIM
SHAME SHAME!! HURAAH FOR THE KENYANS IN WASHINGTON PLEASE BOOT HIM OUT OF THE EMBASSY - THE ARROGANT FOOL HAS NO RIGHT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF KENYA!!PERIOD!!!


US to deport Kenyan over scam at embassy


* Kenya seeks to spruce up its image in US

Mr Douglas Ndede is at the centre of an investigation into the disappearance of $2.5 million (Sh200 million) from the embassy cash.

However, Kenyans living in the US have accused ambassador Peter Rateng Ogego of using Mr Ndede as a sacrificial lamb and demanded Mr Ogego be recalled. Mr Ndede’s visa expired the moment he lost the embassy job and he has no diplomatic immunity.

In a letter distributed on the Internet, Ms Judy Miriga, Kenyans in diaspora spokesperson, says: “We give the minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr (Moses) Wetang’ula, and Kenya’s Coalition Government four days to remove Ogego, failing which we will evict him from office on Tuesday next week.’’

Three weeks

Mr Ndede has been given three weeks to leave the US. After his visa was revoked by the embassy, immigration officials stormed Mr Ndede’s house and he was detained at a Virginia station for eight hours.

He was later freed but he and his two children must now wear an immigration tag on the leg as they await deportation.

The Kenyan community claims that most of the recipients of the $2.5 million (Sh200 million) lost at the embassy are senior officials of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Nairobi.

Contacted, Foreign Affairs permanent secretary Thuita Mwangi said he was not aware of the deportation. Kenya has no foreign mission official by the name Douglas Ndede, he added.

However, he said some external auditors had visited Washington and they were compiling their report. He declined to comment on the Internet letter.

PETER OGEGO IS A KNOWN THIEF -GO ASK THE EMBASSY STAFF AT THE CANADIAN HIGH COMMISSIONER!!
NDEDE IS JUST A FALL GUY......

Anonymous said...

KIBAKI YOU SENILE FOOL!WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE INNOCENT KENYANS BEHEADED, BURNED ALIVE AND SLAUGHTERED IN NAKURUR & NAIVASHA CLASHES( ALL CRIMES DONE BY THE MUNGIKI MURDEROUS YOU HIRED-OTHERS SHOT DEAD BY POLICE BY YOUR ORDERS??WHO BURIED THEM?? DID YOU GIVE THEM A STATE BURIAL?

I PITY YOU KIBAKI.. WHAT YOU HAVE SHOWN IS YOUR COLD EVILNESS.. AND YOU STILL CONTINUE TO EXECUTE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO KILLED FOR YOU.. TO KEEP YOU IN POWER..(HAGUE IS WAITING FOR YOU -SENILE OLD FOOL!!


ODM claims PNU cunningly kept them off Kiambaa burials



By Juma Kwayera and Kipchumba Some

Several ODM MPs blamed failure to attend burial of Kiambaa fire victims on lack of invitation. However, a senior official at ODM headquarters described as "insulting and inhuman for the Government to spend resources on one community, but leave the rest to carry their own cross." The official referred to the arson attack on the family of Mr Bernard Orinda Ndege, who lost two wives and six children in revenge attacks in Naivasha.

The revenge attacks, during which travellers to and from western Kenya were pulled out of buses and beheaded, were blamed on outlawed Mungiki gang. Asked to corroborate the official’s remarks, Deputy Prime Minister Musalia Mudavadi, said, "There could have been a general feeling among ODM ministers and MPs that nobody mourned their dead. Some of them felt they were ignored and therefore so no reason to attend the burial ceremony."

Konoin MP Julius Kones said it was regrettable the ceremony was reduced into a one-community affair. He warned this could further poison the bad blood between the two communities. He claimed certain people were trying to politicise the events.

National Unity

"I hope the President was not party to the political machinations of the event, but if he were, then that is the biggest blow to peace efforts in the province," he said. Eldoret South MP Peris Simam explained she was not involved in the planning.

Eldama Ravine MP Moses Lessonet said he received a text message from Government Chief Whip George Thuo at midnight, just hours to the burial. "I was rather shocked because Kiambaa was not an incident that happened overnight. It has been with us for over a year. For the planners to wait until the last minute to invite us means we were not wanted there," he said.

Planning Minister Wycliffe Oparanya, said if President Kibaki were serious about national unity he would have rallied members of Grand Coalition Government to attend the burial. "The organisation of the funeral was meant to isolate ODM. PNU should not accuse us of boycotting the funeral because when the President has a function, information is relayed to the Cabinet in good time. This was not done," the minister, who said he learnt of the burial on Thursday morning, told The Standard on Saturday.

The latest storm turns attention to the other problems in the coalition, which over the past year has hobbled from one crisis to another.

Lessonet said that peace between the Kikuyu and Kalenjin could only be attained by conclusively addressing items on Agenda Four of the National Accord, particularly the emotive land question."We are simply cheating ourselves by saying peace can be achieved by merely talking yet the pertinent issues that fuelled the violence have not been addressed," he said. Water Assistant Minister Mwangi Kiunjuri talked of how members of the Kikuyu were disposing their property — land and livestock — because of renewed uncertainty. He predicts the exodus would accelerate.

Oparanya said the President and PNU violated the spirit of Serena Talks, which provide he and the Prime Minister appear in public together in areas ravaged by post-election violence

Anonymous said...

ANON2:05 PM

you hit the nail on the head the senile kibaki fool thinks he can spend government funds to bury his own.. but it is the same Kibaki who send mungiki youths to burn those he buries today at the Kaimbaa church

what irony( source in the mungiki movement confirmed already.. they were send to start clashes and the to confuse the stealing of elections by Kibaki and Martha Karua and cronies and that was the only way to stop ODM taking over.. Blame them for the crimes planned and executed by them.

do you notice that the Kiambaa church victims is always in the news (daily nation) owned by the Kikuyu press..

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL INNOCENT KENYANS KILLED BY MUNGIKI IN..AND POLICE

1. Kibera police-mungiki mascare

2.what happened to the dead in Naivasha and Nakuru(murdered by mungiki and police

3. what happened to the children, mothers, pregnant mothers, youth full in the nakuru mortuary, kisumu mortuary, nairobi and western province too??police mascare

4.what happened to all those innocent kenyans shot, totured and killed in Mt. Elgon(Police and army murders ordered by kibaki to round up kalenjin youth and execute them(even students)

and the biggest mistry to date is
what happened to all the other tribes that worked on coffee, tea farms, peoples homes as servants in central province?? sources say Kibaki ordered them to be buried in mass unmarked graves ....
their families are still looking for them

NOW THE MURDERER KIBAKI AND HIS CRONIES GO TO BURY THE KIAMBAA VICTIMS?? I SPIT ON THEM (those are the same people they ordered burned themselves in order to stay in power- most kenyans know that- go read the PNU manifesto facts are there and it was written before the December 2007 clashes- so how did they know that there would be genocide as they called it in the Rift valley??
did kibaki and his murderers foresee the future?? maybe some murderers do!


WERE THEY OFFERED A STATE BURIAL?? NOPE THEY WERE LEFT TO BE BURIED BY FAMILIES AND THE REST IN MASS GRAVES- KIBAKI SHENZI MAVI YA KUKU

Anonymous said...

kibaki and cronies will answer soon.. tooo much innocent blood on their hands

ha!ha! burying the kiambaa church victims? kibaki and crones send mungiki to burn them in the church then turn round and blame ODM in order to stay in power. jinga sana

look around you? has Kibaki stopped killing innocent kenyans? Nope

Anonymous said...

Change the name of Kiambaa to Ole Somei. This place is not in Central to bear the name.

Condolence for the dead.

Anonymous said...

Kibaki brought them death and is now pretending to have feelings for the bereaved.

No, this man doesnt have feelings. Huyu ni kama Sadam ama Botha. Cold like Tusker in the deep freezer.

Anonymous said...

Arap-Somei Corner is better

Anonymous said...

How long will it take the Kikuyus to realise that Kibaki is senile! Are they waiting for him to completely destroy the country? I bet to them it is ok so long as the person destroying the country is a Kikuyu! Shame on you all!

Anonymous said...

You dont go to a place where the official invitations are sent to particular individuals.

Remember the first protocol hitch, when they sent Kalonzo to underate PM. It was in RV.

ODM is not a small party (like ODM-K)to be outplayed.

Anonymous said...

HHA!!HA!!HA!! KIBAKI LOOKING FOR A SPIN DOCTOR TO TURN HIS IMAGE WHITE FROM THE COLOUR OF BLOOD!!

( WERE THIS CONSULTANTS PAYMENTS INCLUDED IN THE FALSE BUDGET??)

WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMETN HIRE USA SPIN DOCTORS TO HELP THIER IMAGE? DO THEY THINK KENYANS IN THE USA(DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY OF FREE SPEECH ARE ASLEEP) TO ACCEPT SUCH NONSENSE??( THEY ARE ALREADY THROWING PETER OGEGO OUT OF THE EMBASSY IN WASHINGTON - WHOSE MONEY IS KIBAKI SPENDING FOR SUCH A JOKE..
KIBAKI SHOULD STOP WASTING KENYANS MONEY TO PROMOTE HIS BLOODY IMAGE THAT MONEY FOR PAYING CONSULTANTS IS ENOUGH TO SETTLE "IDP'S" THE SENILE FOOL HAS GROWN MORE SENILE!


Thursday, May 14, 2009
KENYA GOVERNMENT IN HUNT FOR PR FIRM IN US
DAILY NATION
By MUGUMO MUNENE
May 13 2009

With its image battered by political rows, Kenya is walking the global market looking for an image maker who will also push its interest among foreign governments and international agencies. It has launched a search for a public relations and lobby firm to be based in the United States, where much of its work will be in Washington and New York.

Washington is the seat of the United States Government, now headed by Mr Barack Obama, whose father was Kenyan and New York is the home of the United Nations, where key decisions in international diplomacy are determined.

The gravity of this image building assignment is underlined in an advertisement appearing in last week’s issue of The Economist, which stresses that applying firms must have more than five years’ experience “working for foreign governments in managing relations with key government and public institutions.”

Clearly, the Grand Coalition is convinced that its diplomatic representatives in the world’s most powerful nation need help in the delicate task of pushing for support, influencing decisions and defending the unsavoury aspect of its decisions and deeds back home.

Image is important for governments. It can make all the difference between economic growth and shrinkage and will easily determine the clout a head of State wields in the corridors of foreign ministries overseas, in this case the State Department, Congress, the Senate, the White House and the United Nations.

Kenya has two missions in the United States – one in Washington headed by the country’s ambassador to the United States and another in New York representing Nairobi at the United Nations. Have the two been found wanting or has the government simply decided to be more aggressive in the pursuit of its interests under an Obama government?

The man in charge of Washington, Mr Rateng’ Ogego, also oversees a consular office in Los Angeles, on the west coast. Mr Obama’s historic electoral victory left Mr Ogego, once a left-leaning political activist opposed to the dictatorship of Daniel arap Moi, in a rather awkward position.

As envoy, he had crossed swords with the fast-rising Illinois senator when Mr Obama visited Kenya and criticised the Kibaki government’s handling of corruption in the wake of the Anglo Leasing scandal and its governance record.

Mr Obama had complained in a speech at the University of Nairobi that corruption and tribalism had reached a crisis point, but Mr Ogego in a letter to the senator retorted that the attack was uninformed and in bad taste. There was obviously nothing personal.

Mr Ogego’s defenders will argue that he was simply pushing the line laid out by Nairobi, where Foreign minister Raphael Tuju had similarly issued a stinging attack on Mr Obama, questioning the senator’s understanding of Kenyan affairs.

In turning to an image maker, the Kenyan Government is taking a well-trodden path. A similar initiative by the Museveni government next door has stoked a furious controversy and attracted a parliamentary investigation.

Nigeria, whose nationals feature prominently but not exclusively, in drug arrests at foreign airports and in the infamous cash transfer swindles, last month launched a “brand Nigeria” campaign and set up a department within the Information Ministry to refurbish its foreign reputation. One of its tasks is to clean up the perception of Nigerians as con artists.

Under President Obama, lobby work is set to become harder. His government has pledged to reduce lobby influence in Washington and has barred White House aides who leave government from lobbying or working on issues they previously were involved in.

“We need to close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely and lets them use their time in public service to promote their own interests when they leave,” President Obama said.

Deeply concerned

The tender for consultancy was advertised just days before US Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Johnnie Carson flew to Nairobi to express Washington’s discomfort with turf wars in the Grand Coalition Government.

“We have seen and have felt, as far away as Washington, concerns about the stability of the coalition ... we are deeply concerned and worried whether the events of the last several weeks were again a prelude to a round of instability,” Mr Carson, himself a former US ambassador to Kenya, told reporters on the day he separately met President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

“The political tensions must not be allowed to turn into a political crisis, and a political crisis must not be allowed to turn into political violence,” he said. Kenya has been fighting hard to restore a badly battered image that started with the violence tied to the disputed December 2007 elections that left more than 1,000 dead and thousands of others displaced.
Matters have not been helped by the appearance of political instability arising from wrangling in the coalition government that was formed to return the country to peace. The advertisement, carried in the May 9 edition of the magazine invites consultants with a minimum of five years’ experience in public policy advocacy and communication strategy in Washington D.C. and New York to submit their applications to the Cabinet Office in Nairobi. The tender closes on May 28.

Battered image

Only in the last decades of the twentieth century have foreign governments found it necessary to go beyond traditional diplomacy to compete effectively in the frenzied quest for influence in Washington. By the early 1990s Japan, the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, France and Mexico were the biggest spenders on such activities in the US.

The new initiative, which officials at Nairobi's Harambee House say was spawned by the Obama presidency, is designed to alter the battered image Kenya has suffered in the US since the election-related violence that rocked the country and shocked the world.

Government spokesman Alfred Mutua on Wednesday said the government wanted to cash in on the Obama presidency to promote trade with the US and attract more tourists. “The Obama presidency is a lifetime opportunity and we need consultants to advise us from the US side about the thinking of the media and the governance structures in the US,” he said.

It is the same Dr Mutua who once said Mr Obama was being used as a stooge of the Opposition, then led by Mr Odinga.

Anonymous said...

PETINENT QUESTIONS begging answers:

1. Why bury them in the churchand not in public cemeteries?

2. Why bring in bodies that had nothing to do with the church fire?

3. Why build a monument if we are pursuing healing?

4. Should we be erecting monuments everywhere our children were killed as a perpetual reminder of what happened?

5. Why did the President chose to go to Kiambaa while he did not attend the burials of Mungiki victims in Karatina, his backyard?

Anonymous said...

Why didn't kibaki attend the burial for the karatina mungiki victims?

kenyan nationalist said...

FACT:kibaki is not the president of kenya.
kibaki is a primitive tribal warlord surrounded by greedy evil gema/akamba cronies.
and his foolish,blind kikuyu peasant subjects will keep on getting slaughtered as long as they keep supporting his murderous thieving ways.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone with a modicum of intelligence ever thought of the obvious possibility that this so-called church burning at Kiambaa was, in fact, staged by a Kyuk. To date, neither Kibaki nor his security apparatus have produced a scintilla or iota of evidence linking ANY Kalenjin as the perpetrator of what was clearly a staged arson orchestrated by Kibaki to camouflage the fact that he stole the election. Clearly, Kibaki had the motive to deflect the nation and the world's attention from the fact that he had stolen an election. It is clear that this tragedy was mooted, planned and executed by Kyuks. Kiambaa Church January 1, 2008, has the diabolical hand of Kibaki and his devious henchmen written all over it.

Anonymous said...

So because of the leaders the Kikuyu's are basically stuck with these guys cant even pay respects to women and children burnt in a church?

Did they do anything? Especially the kids, what did they do to deserve such disrespect? And people want the kikuyu's to apologise for their leaders? I dont expect a kalenjin to apologise for the actions of his leaders.

And pessimists such as 2.18pm, please, if you want a dysfunctional nation proceed to Somalia, its as if you actually want a doomed nation. I have not been this angry for a long time, I think people like you are the problem with Kenya, if you want a war zone, there are plenty of places to go and make your doomed nation comments.

We maybe in serious problems but we are not doomed because we cannot allow it. Its not possible, your comment just highlights how spoilt Kenyans are, especially today, you never fought for anything, you have never experienced war and so you think it is ok to even have that kind of mentality.

Not acceptable.

Mageni said...

Kibaki and his NSIS hoodlums planned and executed the deaths of these Kikuyus at the Kiambaa Church and then conveniently blamed Kalenjins.

deno said...

As the saying goes-'wezi waheshimu wenye mali'.kibaki and his ilk plus the kikuyu elite of the 60s are the ones who have messed this country to unimaginable proportions.The common kikuyu folks are suffering coz of these people and they seem not to see.Imagine migrating to other peoples ancestral lands and without any iota of shame renaming those places with their tribal names.How do you expect the locals to react?What i know is that these fellows must and will move from those regions bearing in mind that their expansionist mentality is now fully under scrutiny by the property owners.The 'kiambaa'issue is a very clear example of their evil desires.I originate from that place in eldy and let me advise any visitor to that place not to mention that area by refering it to 'kiambaa' when seeking direction.Call it by its original name-kipnyigei/kaplelach and you will safely land.This will also make you aware who the residents are.The kibaki stolen election was a blessing in disguise in that the sins commited by the kenyatta and his kikuyu elite during the post colonial period where openly uncovered by the mayhem experienced.Tell them that the elite few of them cannot now mess anyone again in that everyone knows what belongs to who and who belongs to where.No one hates kyuks but their perception and thier acts towards other tribes is simply messing them up.They better realise where they belong and repackage themselves afresh on how they will do business with the rest of the 21 tribes.Failure to this,will see them find themselves in a foreign predicament which will not be tasteworthy.The eldy burial was just another stupid mistake these so called pnu leaders did while trying to justify who to blame.I am just advising them that build whatever monument you want to build and just be ready to live with its implications.IT WILL BE JUST ANOTHER DOUSE OF SULPHUR ON AN ALREADY BLAZING FIRE.TRY IT.

deno said...

As the saying goes-'wezi waheshimu wenye mali'.kibaki and his ilk plus the kikuyu elite of the 60s are the ones who have messed this country to unimaginable proportions.The common kikuyu folks are suffering coz of these people and they seem not to see.Imagine migrating to other peoples ancestral lands and without any iota of shame renaming those places with their tribal names.How do you expect the locals to react?What i know is that these fellows must and will move from those regions bearing in mind that their expansionist mentality is now fully under scrutiny by the property owners.The 'kiambaa'issue is a very clear example of their evil desires.I originate from that place in eldy and let me advise any visitor to that place not to mention that area by refering it to 'kiambaa' when seeking direction.Call it by its original name-kipnyigei/kaplelach and you will safely land.This will also make you aware who the residents are.The kibaki stolen election was a blessing in disguise in that the sins commited by the kenyatta and his kikuyu elite during the post colonial period where openly uncovered by the mayhem experienced.Tell them that the elite few of them cannot now mess anyone again in that everyone knows what belongs to who and who belongs to where.No one hates kyuks but their perception and thier acts towards other tribes is simply messing them up.They better realise where they belong and repackage themselves afresh on how they will do business with the rest of the 21 tribes.Failure to this,will see them find themselves in a foreign predicament which will not be tasteworthy.The eldy burial was just another stupid mistake these so called pnu leaders did while trying to justify who to blame.I am just advising them that build whatever monument you want to build and just be ready to live with its implications.IT WILL BE JUST ANOTHER DOUSE OF SULPHUR ON AN ALREADY BLAZING FIRE.TRY IT.

Victor said...

Mr Waweru

am sure you still won't get it, this statement is not from ODM or locals or whoever else, but am sure you'll come up with some weird (mis) representation

Ranneberger opposed plans to erect a monument at the Kiambaa burial site, saying the violence affected the whole country.

"It is important to remember the past, but it would be a mistake to focus on one particular incident since a number of people were killed throughout the country," he said.

Anonymous said...

I find it strange that Kenyans are always talking about reconciliation in the RV but rarely do you ever hear them speak about the causes of the violence.

Why is it that the RV people are constantly attacking their neighbors? And why is it that successive governments won't do anything substantial about it? Yes we want peace, but was the cause of the fight? How many times has this happened? I mean do you mean to tell me that the Kikuyu in RV have been smiling and working along with their neighbors since 2002 without any problems at all? That's just not feasible.

The problem is so clear yet we constantly ignore it. During 2007, there were numerous politicians going around talking about this violence, but no one paid attention. The government didn't want to arrest them even though they were clearly contravening the law because they needed their votes; and the opposition didn't chastise them either for the same reasons.

So now we are all here throwing accusations back and forth all the while knowing the terrible truth.

Why do these people, even though you can live anywhere, not have land in CP? Even though you may not want to hear it I will proceed; because the very people attending their funeral have hogged all the land in CP for themselves. When Orengo suggested that land policy be changed so a way can be found for these people to settle in CP, Uhuru was the first to raise dust over this. He gave the most common of all excuses given by any unfairly landed Kenyan; Kenya is a country in which people can live anywhere they wish.Translation: We don't have land for them in CP.

The very reason why the elections were stolen last year was for no other purpose than financial monopoly of our country by a few individuals. Did anyone notice how the Safcom IPO was set for Jan even though no one knew who would win the electio? And how fast it was put through? And what about that Grand (or should I call it LAICO?) Regency deal?

Someone obviously owed a lot of favors. And now the new owners of Migingo have come to claim their prize.

In 2007 I cried unashamedly for my country. 2012, I will do something about all this. I only hope you will join me.

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