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Saturday, July 12, 2008

Unusual And Bizarre Methods of Solving Crime In Kenya

Weekend Special: Focus On The Kenya Police

In the 1980s a rumour of sorts started doing the rounds about how good a record the Kenya Police had of solving criminal cases.

The amazing rumour had it that the CID almost always got their man and when they failed it was only because of political interference. At around the same time I had a relative that I used to frequently visit somewhere in Mathare, here in Nairobi. One day I noticed something very strange. Now we reporters who have been on the beat can smell a cop from 100 miles away. I noticed 3 police officers in plain clothes entering a house which we all knew belonged to a famous witchdoctor.

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Being the snoopy journalist I am, I of course did my investigations and I soon had what I thought was an excellent story. To my disappointment newspaper editors thought different. None of them could dare touch my story and it has gathered dust for many years now.

Essentially CID officers at the time were making frequent use of witchdoctors to get their man and solve crimes. And apparently it was working, although this is naturally something that is virtually impossible to verify. The obvious reason is that everybody knows that in those days (and even today) if you land in the hands of CID officers it really didn’t matter whether you were actually guilty or not. By the time they finished with you, you would be willing to gladly confess to anything they wanted you to confess to. This “confession” coupled with a little “manufactured” evidence here and there has sent many poor innocent Kenyans to jail for crimes they never committed.

If truth be told the tradition in criminal investigations in this country has been one of laziness amongst officers. In fact many CID officers then frequented nyama choma dens at lunch time and bars at night (purportedly carrying out investigations). Many officers when exposed to this kind of lifestyle soon had a big problem. That problem was that they looked like a pregnant woman who had missed her date for giving birth by about 6 months and yet the baby inside them had kept growing.

Now when you are carrying around that kind of weight, verifying small details is not very easy. With this kind of understanding it becomes easier to understand how the idea of visiting a witchdoctor to solve crimes became so attractive to some CID officers.

These days CID officers are still generally pretty lazy. Their new “whipping boy” is of course technology. Now this is information that the police have worked very hard to keep out of the public domain, but you have already read it here before if you are a regular reader of Kumekucha. Many people are not aware of the fact that even if you change the sim card in a cell phone, it can still be traced. So when a crime is committed and the cell phone of the victim is taken, the police have a pretty easy job tracing the culprits. Cell phones have featured very prominently in various high profile murder cases although the details released have many times been scanty. For instance in the very famous Gachanja murder trial where a former commissioner of lands was charged alongside his wife and in-laws for murdering a certain estate agent in Kitengela, the mobile phone of the deceased enabled the police to solve the crime in record time. Mr Wilson Gachanja himself was acquitted for lack of evidence but the other co-accused persons are currently on death row awaiting their appointment with the hangman (if President Kibaki ever brings himself to sign the necessary documentation).

If you are reading this and are fond of buying cell phones being sold in the streets at throw-away prices then be warned, you now know that there are many like you who are behind bars or went through lots of suffering before being released just because they were given an offer they couldn’t refuse for a cell phone.

But of all the bizarre methods of solving crime employed by our officers none beats that of a certain under cover woman cop who came into the limelight in the late 80s and early 90s whom people used to say used sex to solve various puzzles. Information is scanty but word in the force around then was that she would go to bed with criminals and get her information during pillow talk. In those days when all the sources who would have given me all the details to this titillating story were readily available, it never crossed my mind to write the story. I wouldn’t dare have done it. Not in the Kenya of those days.

The truth is that the Kenya police is a joke apart from being extremely corrupt. Little wonder that it is widely believed that prisons in the country mostly do not hold the real criminals. The people behind bars are mostly innocent and the thugs are those who were unable to raise the required bribe money.

More Kenya Police Stories Tomorrow: Chris tackles serial rapists in uniform and Partners with criminals. Don’t miss these stories in your brand new weekend companion (Kumekucha Weekend Special may now be comparable or probably even better than the one you usually spend the weekend with? Ama?)

10 comments:

  1. ask Martha Karua sources inform us all the police and intelligent forces take orders from her(kibaki chosen her for 2012- he is training her to be a killing machine)




    Kumekucha (chris) might try to disregard this information

    MARTHA KARUA IS THE CHOSEN FUTURE PRESIDENT FROM CENTRAL PROVINCE
    FACTS- TRUST ME- i WAS AT THE MEETING WHERE SHE WAS ENDORSED- SINCE THEN SHE HAS HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH KEY CENTRAL PROVINCE PERONALITIES - FROM NYERI, MURANGA, KIAMBU, I MEAN ALL CENTRAL

    UHURU IS AWARE AND HAS BEEN FORCED TO SUPPORT THIS CHOICE- MUSYOKA KALONZO IS BEING USED OPENLY TO CONFUSE KENYANS TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE MORE PLAYERS - I BELIEVE HE ALREADY KNOWS AND IS JUST PLAYING THE PART - BUT PEOPLE I WILL REPEAT AGAIN AND SAY THIS AS FACTS MARTHA KARUA HAD TO WAIT FOR AGO AHEAD FROM KIBAKI AND CRONIES BEFORE HOLDING HER NARK-K SESSION WHERE SHE TOOK OVER THE CHAIR-

    WHAT I'M WONDERING ARE KENYANS REALLY THAT FOOLISH AS THEY THINK THEY ARE? TO PLOT THIS WAY WITH UHURU AND MUSYOKA KALONZO IF HE DOESN'T KNOW THEN KAMBA'S ARE REALLY FOOLS- BECAUSE TRUST ME MINE ARE FACTS AND ANYONE CAN GO AND CHECK THEM OUT!! THIS IS NO JOKE THIS MARTHA IS THE CHOSEN ONE

    BY ALL THE BIG PLAYERS- ALL CENTRAL
    WHAT I DON'T KNOW OR CAN'T PROOF IS WHETHER KALONZO MUSYOKA IS AWARE OR THE Meru group- that i can't confirm all i know as facts because i was party to some of the meetings is Martha Karua is the chosen one by central province and Uhuru is in the mix- he knows because he was told by the big wigs

    what surprised me is the when he said he was supporting Musyoka that is when i released that they were trying to shift the the glare on Karua to let her organize while using Kalanzo Musyoka like a buffer- where I'm confused is whether Kalonzo Musyoka is in the game???? that I do not know..

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  2. where are the 4000youths that were surposed to be in jail cells all over kenya after the 27th December elections??
    why not talk about their disappearance than giving us a lesson on kenya police when most kenyans can give you a full memo on kenya police brutality??
    stop wasting space and time and lets us discuss what has and is still happening to innocent kenyans!!
    they are still being brutally killed by kibaki and karua special forces in pretense on security....

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  3. FUNNY ENOUGH THAT THIS OSCAR GUY IS ALWAYS RESURFACING WHENEVER CHRIS WANTS TO SELL US SOME PRIVATE STORIES. STOP THIS NONSENSE - CHRIS IS OSCAR AND OSCAR IS CHRIS. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS THAT HAS CHRIS BECOME A MULTIPLE PERSONALITY. IN THIS CASE, GO AND SEEK MEDICAL ADVISE BUT SPARE US THIS NONSENSE HERE.

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  4. Oscar, Chris or whatever u want to call urself. Your story on cops belongs to a chapter in a childrens book. If u have nothing useful to write, please dont smear it on Kumekucha. And... Please grow up.

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  5. This whole story of Chris' phantasy about his past in the hands of the CID, sounds too familiar. It's like a chapter or two of one of Sam Okello's fictions. Chris, I thought you could do better than that. At least, try to dig into the presense. There is enough to report on. What about all those young people who disappeared and whose families cry day and night to know what has happened to their sons and daughters? Don't tell us that you have become such a self-centered egoistic fool who can only think about himself? It's the Kenya of today and how to solve its daily problems were are interested in. Not in some more than 20 years old 'phantasies' of one Chris Kyalo Kapila. Come to your senses.

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  6. Say what you wanna say. If you were man enough, you would publish your comments under your really name. Kenya are idiots and will always be idiots. All they need is a little drama and they will flock to whatever 'Change' we prescribe. They will always vote for a true guardian of status quo. All the major politicians belong to the 'status quo club'. No underlings who do not value the true essence of looting and staying super rich will ever rule Kenya. Not in this lifetime, nor the next.

    But hey, dream all you want.

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  7. ALL THE SILLY COMMENTS ASIDE, THIS ARTICLE REALLY SENT SHIVERS DOWN MY SPINE. WHO WILL SAVE US? I KNOW IT MAY BE LONG BUT PLEASE READ.

    Moi said no to Gaddafi, now he is back big time
    Published on 12/07/2008

    Dennis Onyango

    Eight years after Kenya re-opened diplomatic ties on restricted terms with Libya, the man President Moi kept at bay is raiding the country, and running rings around its leaders.

    Libya is taking over strategic institutions and threatening to bring down the political class in a series of shadowy deals.

    Last week, it emerged Kenya’s Treasury has cleared Libya Oil Holdings Ltd, a company registered in Mauritius to buy 50 per cent of the Kenya Petroleum Oil Refineries from Chevron, Shell and BP at a price of $10 million.

    Libya features prominently in the controversial sale of the Grand Regency Hotel, with its diplomats sometimes suggesting their government is not involved and other times saying it is.

    All this is said to be happening in line with an agreement President Kibaki signed with Libya, which gives the country "treatment of a more favoured country".

    In January last year, the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Energy, Patrick Nyoike, on behalf of the Government, signed a memorandum of understanding with Tamoil Africa Holdings, under which Libya was to undertake several projects in Kenya.

    They included the $300 million Kenya Petroleum Refinery Ltd upgrade project, construction of a $60 million liquefied petroleum gas import storage and distribution facility in Mombasa and a petroleum products supply contract.

    But as President Kibaki’s friendship with Muammar Gaddafi and Libyans begin to take its toll, some of those who served in the Moi administration now think the former President was right.

    Throughout his 24-year reign, retired President Moi remained cautious of Libyan leader Muamar Gaddafi and warned Government officials the Libyan leader was to be embraced with caution.

    According to former officials of the Moi State House, even in the early days of the Moi administration Libya was making "all sorts of demands on Kenya" and "always wanted to be given special and preferential treatment."

    It turns out that Libya’s quest to invest in Kenya’s strategic sectors, particularly its determination to own the Kenya Oil Refineries, did not begin with Kibaki, sources from the early days of Moi administration say.

    But Moi fiercely resisted Libya’s attempt to enter the local oil market. He also objected to offers by Iran to invest in the Kenya Oil Refinery and possibly own it.

    According to former government officials, the retired president worried that the oil sector, particularly the refinery, was too strategic to Kenya’s national interests to be shared with unpredictable nations.

    There are questions Moi asked then, which some of those who served in his administration say should be asked now.

    Moi worried about what would happen if a new person took over in Tripoli and refuses to recognise the deal Kenya signed with Gaddafi.

    "Would Kenya go to war with Libya or go to the International Court? What do we do if Libya goes to war with another country while it controls our refinery? Does Kenya join that war? What happens when Libya’s enemies target our oil refinery because it is partly owned by Libya?"

    Those considerations, a former Moi administration official said, made the former President turn down Iran’s interest in the Kenya Refineries. Moi, the official said, insisted Iran’s participation in the refinery could only come as a grant and not shared ownership.

    But Moi’s distrust for Libya is said to have remained even after the international community began to recognise Gaddafi in the late 1990s.

    The former president strongly believed one could never tell what Libyans were up to.

    So strong was this feeling that when the two states agreed to resume diplomatic ties towards the end of the Moi regime after over 20 years of no relations, the former president’s terms to Gaddafi were tough and clear.

    Sources from the Moi era told The Saturday Standard that for Libya to re-open its embassy in Nairobi, Gaddafi had to agree to one condition by Moi.

    The condition was a Kenyan intelligence official would be attached to the Libyans to monitor everything they did in Kenya.

    The former President further directed intelligence officials that the officers monitoring Libyans in Nairobi would rotate every week.

    A Kenyan ambassador said Moi never wanted to deal with the Libyans, "whether wrong or right."

    Kenya had cut diplomatic ties with Libya in 1987, with Moi accusing the Gaddafi and Museveni regimes of interfering in local affairs.

    Restoring ties in 1999 never came easy either.

    A Kenyan ambassador said Moi only allowed Libya to accredit its Ambassador in Dar es Salaam to also take care of Nairobi.

    Full diplomatic relations were only restored after President Kibaki took over in 2003.

    Moi’s distaste for Gaddafi is said to have been a combination of personal pride, a sense of nationalism and political survival instinct.

    Sources say he believed Gaddafi held sub-Saharan African leaders in low esteem, viewing them as people he could compromise easily.

    That at a time the West viewed President Moi as one of the most important leaders in Africa.

    Eight years after Moi left power, President Gaddafi is getting engrossed in Kenya’s political and economic life, alongside Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, who Moi treated equally with caution.

    In a complete shift, President Kibaki, who was Moi’s deputy in the days the former President had difficulties with Libya and Uganda, has embraced the two leaders wholeheartedly.

    In the 1980s, Moi accused Gaddafi of harbouring expansionist and interventionist tendencies, which he thought Museveni also shared.

    Today, Moi’s successor has developed deep, sometimes-inexplicable ties with the two leaders.

    Libya is said to have financed Kibaki’s re-election campaign.

    It is being given preferential treatment over privatisation of strategic institutions, including the Kenya Oil Refineries, the Kenya Ports Authority, and the Kenya Pipeline Corporation.

    Uganda, at the same time, is being accused of having seconded his soldiers to fight Kenyans who protested at President Kibaki’s disputed and discredited re-election last December.

    Uganda has denied the charges, but in parts of Western, Rift Valley and Nyanza provinces, villagers claim Ugandan soldiers crossed over and beat up protestors.

    In the early days of Moi presidency, Museveni viewed the Kenyan leader as a conservative intent on clinging on to power. Eight years down the line, roles have changed and Museveni is fighting to stay in power for life, with Gaddafi’s support.

    A few months ago, Gaddafi was in Uganda ostensibly to open a mosque. At that function, Gaddafi asked African leaders to forget democracy and rule for as long as their countries needed them. President Kibaki was also at the function where Gaddafi supported Zimbabwe leader Robert Mugabe’s decision to stay in power.

    Much of the poor relations between Libya and Kenya, former officials say, could be blamed on Moi’s "unfounded" fears Gaddafi was spying on Kenya.

    But they also say Moi believed Gaddafi is unpredictable a leader to do deals with and that Libyan Government officials needed close monitoring.

    Moi, his former officials say, had a long running distrust for Libya, which appeared to have lived on even after Western regimes and the US cleared Gaddafi.

    In November 2,000, two years before Moi left office, Kenya dismissed plans to launch an African Union to replace the Organisation of African Unity.

    President Moi argued that the continent was not ready and should first solve its numerous conflicts.

    Sources told The Saturday Standard the real reason Moi opposed the creation of AU and questioned its purpose were his distrust for Gaddafi.

    In July 2000, the OAU had proposed the creation of AU as a watered-down version of a grandiose plan of a United States of Africa by Gaddafi.

    Kenya, a source said, was "either the last or second last" country to ratify the creation of AU because Moi had problems with anything Gaddafi pushed.

    On the tough stand against Libya, in the 1980s through to mid-1990s, Moi had the backing of powerful friends at that time.

    In the mid-1980s, as Moi was having his battles with Gaddafi, then US president Ronald Reagan declared the United States would support African nations that want to resist Libyan ''interventionism".

    The Kenyan president, his former administration officials say, shared America’s view Gaddafi had interventionist tendencies. He included Museveni in the same bracket.

    While some critics say Moi’s fear of Gaddafi was unfounded, a 1988 report by a US organisation, The Heritage Foundation, indicated that Moi faced internal and external political threats. "Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi, working with his ally, Ugandan leader Yoweri Museveni, has attempted to destabilise Kenya over the last three years," the organisation reported.

    London-based Africa Confidential also reported on October 7, 1987, "There also appears to be evidence linking this to Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi".

    Although Moi was wary of Gaddafi from the start, the coup attempt of 1982 made Moi go directly for Libya.

    A Kenyan diplomat thinks the coup just presented an opportunity to take Libya head on, with Moi accusing Libya of being behind the riots that engulfed the University of Nairobi in mid-1980s.

    Those riots, the diplomat said, gave Moi reason to close down the Libyan Embassy in Nairobi, accusing Tripoli of being involved in clandestine ways of wanting to over turn his government.

    It did not help that that year, Moi, then OAU chairman was to travel to Tripoli where he was to hand over the OAU chairmanship to Gaddafi.

    Gaddafi, largely isolated by the international community, badly needed the chairmanship of OAU to redeem himself.

    But it was never to be.

    When Gaddafi's official green Chevrolet Caprice Classic rolled up in front of Tripoli's newly built Grand Hotel, where dignitaries were staying, only 16 of Africa's heads of state were present. That was less than half the necessary OAU quorum of 34 leaders. One of those who did not attend was Moi, the outgoing OAU chairman.

    In the end, Moi refused to hand over to Gaddafi and continued for one more year as chairman until 1983, when he handed over to Ethiopia.

    According to a former Moi official, Gaddafi never forgave Moi for refusing to handover the OAU chairmanship.

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  8. kenya's cancer is corruption. You can only fight it by shooting to kill the offenders.

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  9. WHAT DO THE HATERS THINK ABOUT THIS?


    Central Kenya reaches out to Raila to secure its future

    Story by GAKIHA WERU and WILFRED MUCHIRE
    Publication Date: 7/13/2008
    Central Kenya is quietly planning for a political future without President Kibaki whose term ends in 2012.

    Though the general feeling in the region is that it would be imprudent to field a presidential candidate come 2012, Justice and Constitutional Affairs minister Martha Karua has complicated matters somewhat by declaring she will be gunning for the top seat.

    While is not clear if other contenders will emerge from the region, some politicians are already reaching out to Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

    They realise that the ODM leader will remain a key player in the country’s politics and there is all likelihood that the destiny of the region in the near future could be linked to the Prime Minister.

    Little choice

    Also, the Mt Kenya community has little choice but to reach out to the rest of the country after last year’s disputed election results that precipitated the worst violence so far in post-independent Kenya.

    Members of the region were virtually pitted against the rest of the country. As a result, Central Kenya seems to have arrived at the consensus that reaching out to Mr Odinga would be a good starting point for reaching out to the rest of the country.

    Last week, the Prime Minister was hosted in Kiambaa by the constituency MP Stanley Githunguri during his thanksgiving party. The PM was well-received at the party, and Mr Githunguri’s speech was marked by calls for peace, reaching out and national healing.

    In an interview with the Sunday Nation, Mr Githunguri said whether people liked it or not, Mr Odinga is a formidable political force in the country and people in Central Kenya cannot afford to ignore him.

    “I think everybody appreciates that we need to get integrated to the body politic of the country. This can only happen through building bridges with other communities. Mr Odinga is a terrific mobiliser and in him I see the best bridge between people,” he said.

    The MP says he invited Mr Odinga to Kiambaa because he believes that the more people from Central Kenya interact with the PM, the more they will appreciate that he is not their enemy nor does he hold any grudges against them.

    “I believe Mr Odinga has no ill-feelings towards the people of Central Kenya. As he is a national leader, it is important that people open up to him so that he also gets a chance to familiarise himself with the numerous development challenges facing the people from this region.”

    Other efforts made to reach out to the PM include the now controversial plan to install Mr Odinga as a Kikuyu elder. The plan was supported by businessman-cum-politician Peter Kuguru during a lunch with Mr Odinga in the company of Mr Charles Njonjo.

    The event, which was to take place this month, drew mixed reactions from leaders from the region with some saying that making Mr Odinga a Kikuyu elder was not appropriate at this juncture.

    However, it soon emerged that it was not that the idea was unpalatable, rather, the issue was deciding which leader would initiate the eventual installation.

    The installation was to take place on July 20 at Ruring’u Stadium in Nyeri. But by Saturday it was emerging that the event would take place at a later date so that various interest groups are included in the ceremony.

    Group of elders

    Leaders who were initially opposed to the idea and gave conditions for the fete changed their mind following reports that a new team would be planning the historic event.

    The Sunday Nation has established that a committee of a group of elders was formed as a lobby group to sensitise members of the Kikuyu community on the need to have the Prime Minister installed as an elder of the most populous community in the country.

    Following the formation of the committee, the installation might have to be pushed to another date as preparations begin afresh.

    One of the people involved in the selection of the elders, Dr Thuo Mathenge of Taifa Tekelezi lobby group, said “The ceremony will definitely take place as one way of healing this nation but it might not be on July 20.”

    He said that delegates from all parts of the country would be invited to witness the ceremony that will still take place at Ruring’u Stadium, which is situated about two kilometres from Nyeri town, the Central Provincial headquarters.

    In addition to his reservations that July 20 is too soon for all the preparations to be completed, Dr Mathenge said that the month is the seventh in the year and this was regarded as a bad omen.

    “You know our community regards seven as a bad omen. This is the coldest of all months and a majority of the people feel it is not the right time to have the Prime Minister join the group of Kikuyu elders,” he said.

    Advocating dialogue

    Several groups with members from the six constituencies that form the larger Nyeri district – Nyeri North and South districts – have been incorporated in a national committee. The committee is tasked with sensitising the community members on the benefits of allowing Mr Odinga to be a Kikuyu elder.

    One of the group leaders, Mr Ngunjiri Wambugu, told the Sunday Nation that his group was also advocating dialogue among community leaders holding divergent views on the proposed fete.

    Kanu Central Province Coordinator Geoffrey Gachagua, who was initially opposed to the way the planned installation was shaping up, now welcomes the idea to have various leaders involved in the preparations.

    “As I had said earlier, we were not opposed to the idea or the whole process. What we were questioning was the credibility of some of the people organising it,’’ Mr Gachagua said.

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  10. KIKUYU THUGS STAB A LUO IN NORTH LONDON OVER KIBAKI KIKUYU POLITICS.


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    July 12 2008 at 7:09 PM non tribal

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    Dear kenyans, last night my mates and i went for our usual w/kend outing here at Harlesden(LONDON NW1O) and the worst thing happend, I happen to be a kyuk but my mates are a luo and a ugadan, we were just having a drink discussing the situation in Zimbabwe when four fellow kenyans walked in and joined us, all went well for about an hour with the usual political disagreement until it got to kenyan election era, without a warning my luo friend was on the floor begging for his life,(knife protruding from his chest) All i could do was hold and console him, fortunately my kikuyu bros dint know this has been my local joint for the last two decades and soon the irish thought i was in trouble and came to my aid. AM sorry to say that my luo friend was stabbed and is in critical condition He was one of the five people who got stabbed in london last night,( YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ON TELLY) please brothers when are we going to stop this tribal madness, one kenyan in jail the other heading to a morgue, and for what KIBAKI and RAILA? HEED MY WORDS BUT I SAY THIS "NOT ANOTHER DROP OFF BLOOD".


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    Dada
    Re: tribal war spreads in london July 12 2008, 9:15 PM


    This is madness! Total madness. But I'm sure we all know that he who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword. Don't we no longer have any value for human life? What kind of political discussion can be so heated to prompt one to to stab another? What business are we in to be carrying knives around in the first place? Have we, ourselves, given up on life such that another's doesn't matter? This is really heartbreaking.


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    Ikigu
    Sad indeed! July 12 2008, 9:56 PM


    I have avoided paricipating in the tribal talk that has been going on here in this blog unbated!As this article shows our brothers and sisters are unable to engage in proper discussions without resorting to knives,arrows etc.
    Unless we grow up,learn to live and let live we are doomed!
    Kenya is for all of us!We must learn to tolerate different political opinions without fighting.As I do not fight my European or Asian neighbours so is the case with my Kenyan neighbours.


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    Gichorio
    Re: tribal war spreads in london July 12 2008, 10:06 PM


    That is very sad indeed.The problem we Kenyans have is to realise that our politicians are like generals who send you to war only for them to receive the medals.Remember our Kenyan brethren killed after the elections, where are the generals who sent the dead worriors? In the august hose drawing six figure salaries.
    Wananchi please ignore their pleas to spill Kenyan blood, they don't give a hoot about us, they are only interested in themselves and the earlier we put this in our heads the better.
    Iam waiting for the day when them politicians will knock on our doors begging for our votes.
    Does it mean we don't have "a leader of tomorrow" among us?


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    Kifagio
    Stupid ! Stupid ! July 12 2008, 10:36 PM


    This BARBARIC act should stop immediately. We are all kenyans and we should stick together especially when we are in foreign countries. Hii ni ushamba wa hali ya juu.


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    Kamiriithu
    I warned you people July 12 2008, 11:06 PM


    I hate to report this and say that I warned! I talked of incitements and silly tribal insults that were being posted here by Swedo, Patrick and Kofia Mbaya, but no one listened to me. Most of my posted never saw the light of the day. I am not sure whether this will appear either. But iwe liwalo.
    We are ripping the products of hate mails here and on other Kenyan blogs.


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