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Thursday, February 21, 2008

Another Round of Anxiety and Waiting

So we have to wait for some more hours to know our fate as a country? Well, with fingers crossed it will be another long night. Hands on our hearts, hope as our singular asset and against all odds we hope to wake up to good news tomorrow from Annan.

But that ends the hopeful side of things in Kenya. The pragmatic and realistic aspect demands caution laced in a heavy dose of pessimism if our past is any guide. We must take the unexpected speedy climb down from the hitherto hardliners with a sumptuous dose of salt lest we end up naming the unborn who may come out STILL.

It is not pessimistic to factor in other dimensions that could have prompted PNU to create impressions they may not mean and will never respect. The international pressure is immense and the warning from crisis group is grim. Trust our scoundrels to revert to what they master best – buying time with the principal intention of maintaining status quo.

The stakes have never been higher. One minute Kibaki in utter contempt to all parties concerned declares with all bravado that there is no constitutional vacuum. And we are expected to breathe a sigh of relief the same evening praying that some unspecified deal has been hammered. Well, tough luck folks.

You CANNOT succeed in executing civilian coup by STEALING an election using tricks learnt in 1960s. This is the 21st Century and even General Mursharaf couldn't do it with all the military might at his disposal.

Time is of essence and the daggers are drawn. Will tomorrow see the shining blades being housed back in their sheaths or randomly opening skulls and extinguishing Kenyan lines? Your guess is as good as mine. Few hours to go and counting tick tock tick tock….

58 comments:

THe world's oldest Notorious thief said...

Well, the regime needs to understand that time is up. Jokes like genocide and other stuff are for toddlers because we have not started to compare the notes. There will be genocide if the regime doesn't get the message that tribe and community is ready to be enslaved. And the regime is full of blockheads that they say "follow the constitution." Hehehe! I though stealing is not part of the consititution. Well, the knife and the yam is in the hands of Kibaki. He will have to decide which one he prefers.

Kiptoo said...

Taabu. PNU is not likely to honor anything. These PNU guys are little devils dancing around a fire. But do not despair. Most Kenyans are with Raila, a mans man. I would be scared if it was weakling traitors like Kalonzo-silent-Musyoka leading us. But since we know that Raila, in a PM suit, will indeed be the de-facto president, we know Kenya will be in good hands.

Kibaki should start reviewing his retirement plan.

Anonymous said...

Not worried- sources say -Kibaki has no choice- the ball is not in his court anymore!! PM and President powers will be equal- equal presentation in parliament - so kibaki has to disband the previous positions and seat down with his MP;s again- I don't envy him on that?? will he retain Kilonzo Musyoka as VP?? or??

Jack said...

Taabu, let me address you solely.
You are a PESSIMIST!
For you, the glass is always half-empty and there is no hope anywhere. Let me even venture to say that even in private personal matters, you are just a pessimist who always doubts himself, low self confidence and image as well.
I have never ever seen a positive article from you. Its always doom, doom and ODM.
NOw listen, I know PNU stole the elections, I also know that ODM's Raila is the elected president of Kenya. I know Kenyans want change and elected Raila as our president and Kibaki is a thief...I know all that,
however, I am willing to HOPE!
Coz hope makes all the difference.
Do you know whats happening in Chad? exactly, no one cares whats going on inspite of a MILLITARY COUP...Ever heard of Darfur? see, no one cares...Kenya falls in trouble and the powers that be cannot stop coming in and out of Kenya.
Look at Koffi Annan, its going to be a month--A MONTH--tommorow the 22nd ever since he jetted into kenya for this issue.
Thats why I am willing to HOPE.
If you have followed OBAMA's Campaign, you will understand that everyone is in bandwagon because of the issue of HOPE.
Now, my good friend TAABU (even the name you chose for yourself in this forum reveals the state of your mind! r u an eternal pessimist?)
listen, have HOPE, try to HOPE and even when you cant hope, hope that you will hope!.

AMANI KENYA---AMANI NA ODM!!!

Anonymous said...

Yes I hear equal power sharing from sources on ground- and you are right -kibaki has to rename his cabinate!!

Anonymous said...

The only way Kibaki is going to get out of office is by force. I am a diehard ODM supporter and I feel like ODMERs rely too heavily on the western world to deliver the presidency to us. I think our destiny is in our hands and we should act and stop talking too much. Raila and Ruto can engage in on all the diplomacy they want but the fact remains that they did not steal it so that they can give it up easily.

Anonymous said...

Jack said...

Taabu, let me address you solely.
You are a PESSIMIST!

Thanks Jack I agree with you on this one!! in the light of most posts here! the writer always tries to imply that ODM must give up hope of ever running the government or be in any position of power- but we ODMers on here have kept our fellow Kenyans informed and encouraged them not to loose hope!!and that is true on all other blogs- some one who works for BBC (friend) commented that after looking at all blogs on Kenya after elections the message is clear- Kenyans want change!! I'm happy to note that Kenyans in Kenya and in the diaspora are speaking the same language "CHANGE"

Jack said...

Thanks, I actually think TAABU is a PNU MOLE, who always wants to kill the ODM spirit through depressing pessimistic posts. Like u said, no giving up, we will run the government one day and bring CHANGE. And Taabu will be ashamed...TAABU, be positive at least for once!

Anonymous said...

Kenyans have only had to wait for a couple of weeks. We need to be PATIENT.

There are Somalians who are waiting 17 years later...

mrembowaodm said...

yes world's oldest notorious thief....stealing is not in the constitution!! they should understand that before they tell anybody to follow it.

Anonymous said...

YOU CAN'T BE AN ODMER? IF YOU WERE THEN - YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE THIS STATEMENT OR NEITHER ARE YOU FOLLOWING THE NEWS ON GROUND!!
ODMers respect their leaders-

you stick to your kibaki and shut up! we know how Raila and Ruto are doing and in time we will know when to isolate Central to oblivious


Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way Kibaki is going to get out of office is by force. I am a diehard ODM supporter and I feel like ODMERs rely too heavily on the western world to deliver the presidency to us. I think our destiny is in our hands and we should act and stop talking too much. Raila and Ruto can engage in on all the diplomacy they want but the fact remains that they did not steal it so that they can give it up easily.

Anonymous said...

LOL, LOL, Mambo yamekuwa magumu mpaka ODM wamegeuka chokora mapipa. Wanaokota vyeo pipani. Oh, Kumbe haikuwa president. Mbona mkaharibu wakati wetu. Mumngu na awasaidie. Mnaomba kama sadaka... TUPE PM, TUPE PM, PM tafadhali...Salala Maskini ODM

Anonymous said...

I actually agree with this post here by a guy called Jack. True, Taabu needs to shape up or ship out, we are sick and tired of pessimism in kumenkucha

Taabu, let me address you solely.
You are a PESSIMIST!
For you, the glass is always half-empty and there is no hope anywhere. Let me even venture to say that even in private personal matters, you are just a pessimist who always doubts himself, low self confidence and image as well.
I have never ever seen a positive article from you. Its always doom, doom and ODM.
NOw listen, I know PNU stole the elections, I also know that ODM's Raila is the elected president of Kenya. I know Kenyans want change and elected Raila as our president and Kibaki is a thief...I know all that,
however, I am willing to HOPE!
Coz hope makes all the difference.
Do you know whats happening in Chad? exactly, no one cares whats going on inspite of a MILLITARY COUP...Ever heard of Darfur? see, no one cares...Kenya falls in trouble and the powers that be cannot stop coming in and out of Kenya.
Look at Koffi Annan, its going to be a month--A MONTH--tommorow the 22nd ever since he jetted into kenya for this issue.
Thats why I am willing to HOPE.
If you have followed OBAMA's Campaign, you will understand that everyone is in bandwagon because of the issue of HOPE.
Now, my good friend TAABU (even the name you chose for yourself in this forum reveals the state of your mind! r u an eternal pessimist?)
listen, have HOPE, try to HOPE and even when you cant hope, hope that you will hope!.

AMANI KENYA---AMANI NA ODM!!!

10:14 AM

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10.27: Contrary to your CRUDE assertions, ODM has not let its supporters down. It continues to work for change even under the toughest conditions.

As one Kumekuchan above said, even Gen. Musharaff of nuclear armed Pakistan had to step down. Who the hell does Kibaki think he is?

Anonymous said...

Tabu your mood is not justified by reports from the Standard and Daily Nation.

fave of BG said...

@Jack,
Let me tell one thing about the much vaunted HOPE; Hope is good for breakfast, but hope is never good for supper. Hope is a great bed to wakeup on in the morning,it is a hard bed to lie on.
45 years of hope, even by geological time that is long.

Anonymous said...

Yes, read the newspapers my dear!

KIBAKI APENDE ASIPENDE - TEMBE ANAMEZA NA ATAMEZA.

Anonymous said...

KIbaki asks Martha Karua... Martha, do you have Prime Minister in your pocket? Please drop Prime Minister in the begging tin.

That is in reference to the above post!

But I wonder what Raila did with the billions that were collected. He should contruct five toliets in Kibera, five in Mathare and two in Kariobangi or PAY RENT for his stone throwers

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10.34; Go to school!

No M.P. should be held responsible for the poverty in Kibera or Mathare - only the continued misgovernment of successive govts.

Anonymous said...

Change is coming - refer to Daily Nation.

Kibaki and his cronies have been taken to the river and forced to drink.

Africans will shove democracy down the throats of their dictators one by one.

Anonymous said...

PNU - SHOGA KAMA WEWE -LAUGH ABOUT THE INNOCENT DEATHS AND CHILDREN WHO HAVE NO PARENTS IN THE CAMPS- ATI ODM IS CRYING PM-

IF ODM WANTED TO FINISH YOU HOOLIGANS TUNGE MUKIMPISHA MPAKA OTHAYA AND FITTED ALL OF YOU IN kIBAKI'S TOILET!

KEEP LAUGHING - JUST TRY US THIS TIME!! TUME SEMA- WE WILL LESOTHO YOU GLADLY



Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL, LOL, Mambo yamekuwa magumu mpaka ODM wamegeuka chokora mapipa. Wanaokota vyeo pipani. Oh, Kumbe haikuwa president. Mbona mkaharibu wakati wetu. Mumngu na awasaidie. Mnaomba kama sadaka... TUPE PM, TUPE PM, PM tafadhali...Salala Maskini ODM

Anonymous said...

was Raila not in Moi governemnt and Kibaki government and ended up building two toilets in 15 years?

Anonymous said...

Kaloozer displays True colours, through Mutula's Moi/Biwhat axis.


Chris,

You are simply too good
I was worried when I saw Mutula's quoted comment...That "others may not agree.. we are involving other parties.."

Was he refering to Kaloozer, whose party (ODM-K)under any condition is not part of these mediation talks?

Kenyans are not fools. ODM-K should wait for PNU and ODM to do their bit.Then They (Kaloozer) go and negotiate/mediate with PNU.Thats their funeral!

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, Anons a 10.38 and 10.39 have not read the papers.

If you had, you would realise that ODM is forcing this govt. to change.

Anonymous said...

PNU has had to compromise - see latest lead story in the Daily Nation.

Anonymous said...

BBC Africa also has a positive update on Kenya's talks.

Change is coming - there is no turning back to our old dictatorial ways of govt.

Anonymous said...

NO!!NO!! THAT WAS KIBAKI!! HE BUILD TWO TOILETS AND HE COULD NOT EVEN GET TO USE THEM!! HE ALWAYS WET HIMSELF(PEED) AT MUTHIAGA DRUNK(SOURCE HIS DRIVER)


Anonymous Anonymous said...

was Raila not in Moi governemnt and Kibaki government and ended up building two toilets in 15 years?

mrembowaodm said...

when mutula says 'not everybody will support it' what does he mean?

you may just hear no deal again!!

Anonymous said...

WRONG SORRY!! KILONZO IS NOT S FACTOR IN THIS NEGOTIATIONS!!ANY FOOL CAN SEE THAT!! THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN
PNU & ODM-K IS A PRIVATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES!! IF KILONZO WAS A RELEVANT ENTITY THEN AT THIS TIME HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NEGOTIATIONS (i understand some PNU members are not happy with him now-inside source)


mrembowaodm said...

when mutula says 'not everybody will support it' what does he mean?

you may just hear no deal again!!

Anonymous said...

The dialogue here is just getting to crude for me.

Kenyans abroad apparently pursuing higher education...

Yet they lack the basic language skills to ENGAGE IN INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE.

Anonymous said...

Anon @10.57 Satap! mara moja. Waskia, nyamasa!

Anonymous said...

THOSE DIRTY TALKERS ARE KNOWN TO BE PNU spy's to stop people here having good debates!!and exchange of information!


Anonymous said...

The dialogue here is just getting to crude for me.

Kenyans abroad apparently pursuing higher education...

Yet they lack the basic language skills to ENGAGE IN INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE.

10:57 AM

Anonymous said...

Who is this thug looking for women on Kumekucha? This is a blog dude!

Taabu said...

Jack@10.14 and 10.21 I hear you loud and clear. Thanks for your lecture HOPE 100 albeit uninvited. Hope is one rare virtue that is both grossly abused and used in equal measure. It keeps a dieing soul kicking and lightens a dark path.

Thanks too attempting to e-mind read. Unfortunately you wont succeed. As for name, what is it? Taabu according to me is a cluster of letter for physical (NOT unique) tagging. You read too much into it and it only leaves you sweating under your collar.

When you read doom, doom and ODM is most of my post I cannot resist imagining that your pasttime is to permute the three unique letters. As for Chad and Darfur well, that is another smart aphabetical ordering. Good luck in your semantic endevours.

All said and done HOPE is good but reality is better and best. I know the human feeling of hopelessness. True a glass is half full as much as it is also TRUE to be half empty. PESSIMISM IS OPTIMISM in reverse, sivyo? Hang on there it is just a matter of hours and who knows? Lala unono, tuko pamoja.

Anonymous said...

Feb 21st 2008 | NAIROBI
From The Economist print edition

The political remedy is obvious, but hard to accept

......But on February 21st a government negotiator said that the post of prime minister had been “more or less agreed on”; it would have executive powers but be subject to a sunset clause, expiring either with the dissolution of parliament or the enactment of a new constitution........

deroo said...

Now, it is losing meaning. Please whoever is insulting Taabu should stop it. I belive most people on this blog right now are people not in Kenya and are privilged to be away from the trouble home.

Please can you stop some of these childish chides and have an intelligent discourse on the topic. I have always told people. If you must write, please make it sense. If not, read and digest.

Your mum or teacher will not punish you for not writing here and she would rather, punish you for not writing rubbish than writing gibberish, pig-shit and cow-dung on this blog to escape the whip.

RESPECT: Franco Luambo Luanzo said Bolingo na Ngai na Respect. Should I translate that??? It runs deep from the mother if she never gave you that, please do not expose her shortcomings on this blog. We will be having a laugh at you!

-Derek-

deroo said...

Now, it is losing meaning. Please whoever is insulting Taabu should stop it. I belive most people on this blog right now are people not in Kenya and are privilged to be away from the trouble home.

Please can you stop some of these childish chides and have an intelligent discourse on the topic. I have always told people. If you must write, please make it sense. If not, read and digest.

Your mum or teacher will not punish you for not writing here and she would rather, punish you for not writing rubbish than writing gibberish, pig-shit and cow-dung on this blog to escape the whip.

RESPECT: Franco Luambo Luanzo said Bolingo na Ngai na Respect. Should I translate that??? It runs deep from the mother if she never gave you that, please do not expose her shortcomings on this blog. We will be having a laugh at you!

-Derek-

Anonymous said...

Chris, if they continue, MODERATION. Or they go back to where they came from - Mashada. Off you go!!!

-Derek-

Jack said...

Taabu, I read your lame attempt at a reply but you, again, fell short.
Listen, not only are you an eternal pessimist, but you are a minimalist too. Chad and Darfur are NOT mere alphabetical arrangements. They are countries and people are dying, just like in Kenya. Your cannot minimize the issues or be just be pessimistic....peace


Blogger Taabu said...

Jack@10.14 and 10.21 I hear you loud and clear. Thanks for your lecture HOPE 100 albeit uninvited. Hope is one rare virtue that is both grossly abused and used in equal measure. It keeps a dieing soul kicking and lightens a dark path.

Thanks too attempting to e-mind read. Unfortunately you wont succeed. As for name, what is it? Taabu according to me is a cluster of letter for physical (NOT unique) tagging. You read too much into it and it only leaves you sweating under your collar.

When you read doom, doom and ODM is most of my post I cannot resist imagining that your pasttime is to permute the three unique letters. As for Chad and Darfur well, that is another smart aphabetical ordering. Good luck in your semantic endevours.

All said and done HOPE is good but reality is better and best. I know the human feeling of hopelessness. True a glass is half full as much as it is also TRUE to be half empty. PESSIMISM IS OPTIMISM in reverse, sivyo? Hang on there it is just a matter of hours and who knows? Lala unono, tuko pamoja.

Kiptoo said...

who is doing this? Can someone stop this? Chris?

mrembowaodm said...

seriously kumekucha?!!

this is not the forum for such nonsense!!

Anonymous said...

"We reject Non-Executive PM position and will go ahead with protests. we want those PM powers that Kenyatta had after independence"-Nyang Nong,Aljazeera,0930 pm Tv news

Whats the real truth? Just been watching news

Abass said...

Kenyans, don't get over-excited so that you won't despair when you get the new you didn't want. Don't also despair whenever Martha Karua opens up her filthy mouth. While I am no so optimist about the prospect of the right deal (coz I know THE PNU team involved), we will wait and see tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

like many have done it is easier to ignore the posts
by anons 12:50 and 12:54 whose goals are really to ofset the balance of exchange that kumekucha has provided.
you, Im sure have seen it when in real fights unsuspecting defeats bring about dirty play. someone must have run out of meaningful dialogue and has resorted to sliming this blog.
slimballs always teleza to the ground under the gravity of true interest in justice. as more boots walk the path of justice slim is under the boot treds.

STILL i wish there was a way we could be spared all this unnecessary X RATED STUFF. Haifai hata kidogo!

Anonymous said...

ODM and their supporters need to be very careful after all they are dealing with the dreaded Kikuyu mafia. If you recall the Kenyatta succession, these guys are willing to do anything including killing half the cabinet, just to retain power. Here is what Andrew Morton wrote about the Ngoroko:

"According to Morton, the Kikuyu mafia got Mungai train a special paramilitary unit, called the "Ngoroko anti-stock theft unit" to carry out the plot. The unit operated under Mungai. "When Moi first got wind of these machinations, he ordered an investigation [but] before he received the report, responsibility for the police was transferred to [Mbiyu] Koinange, then minister in the office of [President Kenyatta].

"The purpose was to assassinate Moi and other high ranking politicians and civil servants" in the event of Kenyatta's death, Morton reveals. They aimed to lure Moi and 14 other key ministers to State House Nakuru, on the pretext that President Kenyatta was gravely ill and wished to see them before he died.

As Moi and his colleagues gathered round Kenyatta, Ngoroko askaris, armed with silenced weapons, would gun them down. They would then announce that they had been forced into this action because the vice-president [Moi] and the other ministers had attempted to kill Kenyatta as he lay on his sick-bed."

I doubt that the mediation will succeed. These guys will want to have power at all costs.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Anon @ 1.34 for your update.

Perhaps ODM is simply putting more pressure on the govt. to cede even more ground.

In the end we will have a new constitution with majimbo and an executive premiership.

DICTATORSHIP IN KENYA IS DYING A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH.

Anonymous said...

THANK YOU KUMEKUCHA FOR RESTORING MODERATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was aghast at all the filth and trash some crooks were bringing into this classy blog.

HONGERA!!!

Anonymous said...

Eh! Mungu asifiwe kweli.

"A Deal in the Making" (Standard 21/2/08)and moderation restored on Kumekucha!

Can this day get any better?

Yawa Nyasaye orito JoKenya!

Anonymous said...

PNU is truly being dragged kicking and screaming into democratic reforms.

We will not rest until there is a new katiba.

Today's news ni kionjo tu.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We reject Non-Executive PM position and will go ahead with protests. we want those PM powers that Kenyatta had after independence"-Nyang Nong,Aljazeera,0930 pm Tv news

Whats the real truth? Just been watching news



and what news are those?? and who announced the offer of NON-Executive PM Position?? I didn't see on Aljazeer and non of the other services have carried any offers made to the opposition on Thursday??BBC CNN has nothing??

Can you be specific and confirm when who announced the offer and when??

Anonymous said...

that is old news


1:03 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We reject Non-Executive PM position and will go ahead with protests. we want those PM powers that Kenyatta had after independence"-Nyang Nong,Aljazeera,0930 pm Tv news

Whats the real truth? Just been watching news

Kali said...

isnt this old news??
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We reject Non-Executive PM position and will go ahead with protests. we want those PM powers that Kenyatta had after independence"-Nyang Nong,Aljazeera,0930 pm Tv news

Whats the real truth? Just been watching news

1:34 PM

Kali said...

what happened on here?? where did people disappear too?? I even posted a comment on testing and it hasn't seen the light on here??

mrembowaodm said...

oh goodness gracious me somebody did something very right here.....all those weird posts have disappeared!!

i think this is what they call a good friday!!

i am naively waiting with bated breath to see whether the negotiators will break the jinx or what!

Anonymous said...

Dear Taabu:

It is necessary that you continue to be who you are: a nihilist. Without you we would not have known that hard work equals deception; that it is wrong for "foreigners" to buy some plots outside their ancestoral area, build an estate and call it Gituamba. Who would be able to elevate pessimism to a religion except Taabu of the smell-the-coffee of Armageddon extraordinarre. We need you Taabu to continue to ground us in the world of doom otherwise we will fly with hope to a united Kenya where you can reside where-ever you want and blog or sell mboga from there!!!

Taabu said...

Anon@1.19 karibu. I hold no hostages and I don't suffer your ilk lightly. Be my guest anytime anywhere.

KazaMwendo said...

mrembowaodm ha, utakonda dada yangu!

mrembowaodm said...

kazamwendo ulisema kweli....nishakonda tayari...kama ng'onda.

tell your pnu friends karua and others...my weight depends on them!!

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